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Posted by: TimALoftis 3 years, 2 months agoRon Price, a Dallas school board member, has asked the City Council to look at strenghtening a law to go after people who wear baggy pants and expose their underwear.
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Dygital
Sept. 2, 2006, 10:06 a.m.Oh, come on. With all the current world's problems we choose to go after school kids who wear baggy jeans.
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Harbeas
Sept. 2, 2006, 11:27 a.m.Even thought it really looks like you have a pile of ****** in your pants(baggy pants) it is not an earthshattering problem. Let's get on with educating them.
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Silverghost
Sept. 2, 2006, 11:28 a.m.If you would read the article, its not objecting to baggy pants per se, but to pants allowed to droop below the buttocks. And the purpose of this form of dress or undress is...? -Rev. S
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Silverghost
Sept. 2, 2006, 11:32 a.m.Harbeas:
You can't teach unruly kids. We are to permissive. That is why Denmark & other nations excel in educational scores over our children. -Rev. S
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hecuba
Sept. 2, 2006, 11:41 a.m.While I agree with Silverghost that you can't teach unruly kids; it is also true that the best way to get them to do something is to forbid them to do it.
It seems to me that fashion, especially teen or young peoples fashion, has had a testing the limits kind of rebelious nature. ie, the Zoot Suit, the Neru jacket, Bell Bottoms, Hip Huggers, and probably one of my favoties, the Platform Shoe.
It is only the weak minded who can't seem to come up with creative solutions, who want to fall back on punitive measures.
Mr. Price, might try, oh I don't know, challenging his students intellectually. That's what I've always thought a school system is supposed to do.
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FloridaGuy
Sept. 2, 2006, 11:45 a.m.As an educator I agree that showing your boxers is in poor taste. What is more in poor taste is that parents allow this! Most do not understand that this is a "signal" by inmates that they are seeking "******" from someone else. I do not exactly appreciate seeing anyone's underwear in public.
As to other issues, it can also be dangerous as well. One high schooler was trying to run across the street with oncoming traffic and actually fell down when his pants fell around his knees. As a result he was hit by one car and a city bus that could not stop. As a result, he died. I guess that put an end to his low riders.
In schools it does cause a disturbance. Not everyone wants to view your underwear. IT is tasteless, classless, and just plain stupid. Get a damn belt. These kids are not "Hip-Hop" artists... when they are go do it on a stage and get paid--- out of sight of the general public.
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FloridaGuy
Sept. 2, 2006, 11:47 a.m.hecuba: The issue here is showing underwear.... not a zoot suit that my father wore which totally covered up the body.
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FloridaGuy
Sept. 2, 2006, 11:51 a.m.I agree with the Rev. If you do not have some sort of standard in public, especially a school, the educational level falls. We are supposed to be such a great nation... BA HUM BUG... other nations out rank us in education so much that is is not funny.
People complain that jobs go overseas... well DAH, no wonder! They have the brains, technological where-with-all, and the abilities to logically do it for less than what we are producing. When we become the third rate nation--- look back at your history then and see that we had no standards let alone class!
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austinandjustin
Sept. 2, 2006, 1:04 p.m.Yes, we have fallen behind in education but I think it has less to do the school's dress code and more to do with the fact that in my children't school at least they don't have enough text books to give to each student.
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Silverghost
Sept. 2, 2006, 1:25 p.m.Florida Guy:
Thanx! I appreciate your viewpoint as an educator. I have been involved with educating incorrigibles & addicts. The one thing that they respond to is discipline mixed with care, which many had never had. It along with the truth changes lives dramatically. -Rev. S
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merri
Sept. 2, 2006, 1:26 p.m.our nation is going through much more of a crisis than bagging pants and underware. Maybe just maybe they have ambitions to be a plumer when they grow up. Atleast they are not showing us their actual butts. GROW-UP Ron Price!!!!!!! Do you honestly think that dressing a student to everyone elses standards is going to make them a better person. NO its not!! Free Speech, Free news,and freedom are some of our rights. As long as when they graduate school with some of the knowledge that the teachers had taught them, then they will always someday learn more respectialbe values. You can't force those on them so untill then BACK OFF!!!!!!!!!!!
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Wintermut3
Sept. 2, 2006, 1:39 p.m.according to the supreme court students do not "check their constitutional rights at the schoolhouse gate." (Tinker vs. Des Moins)
The right of free expression clearly extends to clothing, and just recently the courts have once again upheld this right. I agree it's a balancing act, and with baggy pants they might have safety grounds (that baggy clothing could be used to conceal weapons or contraband) but still.
You cannot legislate away teen rebellion
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season
Sept. 2, 2006, 2:12 p.m.Just an FYI: I had read that the "baggy pants" look has been modeled from those who are incarcerated because they can not wear belts or suspenders.
Floridaguy: "As to other issues, it can also be dangerous as well. One high schooler was trying to run across the street with oncoming traffic and actually fell down when his pants fell around his knees. As a result he was hit by one car and a city bus that could not stop. As a result, he died. I guess that put an end to his low riders."
Interesting point Florida. Although I am willing to bet that this did not impact the kids enough for this trend to end....
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Stevec7
Sept. 2, 2006, 2:14 p.m.I agree with the article, baggy pants showing underwear should be outlawed. Its offensive to me even in the shopping malls to see this. Whats next, the winter hats on young teens at school.
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CodeNameHawk
Sept. 2, 2006, 2:38 p.m.Those baggy-crotch, down to their knees pants, should have been barred when the schools FIRST saw them on a kid, then they wouldnt be having this problem now. But like so many schools of today, the PARENTS RULE the schools by suing and WINNING. That is the sad part. They have taken the respect of the teachers out of the administrators hands, therefore, all schools have gone wild with shorts showing their butts to tank tops as well as all sexual attire one can wear. Then the parents are swarming the schools WONDERING and GRIPING cause their kids don't have a teacher who knows how to teach. It's a small wonder we even have any schools left.
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Galit
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hecuba
Sept. 2, 2006, 2:42 p.m.Floridaguy,
The issue is not underwear, the issue is respect. Granted I see these boys and some girls too on NYC's subway..and I really think they look stupid. But If we're really honest with ourselves, so did we back in the day. The outfit that still makes me shudder was painted-on designer bell bottoms with with a tiedyed tee shirt and beads! Even the thought of it today is embarrassing and astounds me. But we thought we were sexy, which of course was the object of the excercise.
If my history is not too far off, the Zoot Suit was also considered to be quite vulgar and an open invitation to, how to put it nicely, bad behavior. Not all that much different from the underwear flaunting Dallas 'butt-boys'.
I say again, the real issue is self-respect, and the way I see it, the only way to generate that respect is by focussing on what is important. Like what's inside those underwear, and under that sideways ball cap!!
Challenge their brains and the kids wil be alright!
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hecuba
Sept. 2, 2006, 2:46 p.m.Galit, My dear..
What does the WTC tragedy have to do with hanging butt cheeks?
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el-jefe
Sept. 2, 2006, 3:05 p.m.I think many of you have missed a point here. Why is there so much talk about what is acceptable in schools? This story is about proposed legislation that would make it a crime for anyone to be seen with droopy pants in public.
Why on earth does anyone think it is appropriate for the Dallas City Council to be passing fashion laws? We're not talking indecent exposure here (unless someone wears droopy pants with no underwear - heh), we're talking about clothes that some people don't like.
Can we pass a law that throws someone in jail for wearing a leisure suit? For wearing their hat backwards? For wearing flip-flops in public?
Why the hell does anyone tolerate this kind of crap? Didn't fashion laws go out with the Puritans?
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austinandjustin
Sept. 2, 2006, 3:47 p.m.If you really hate baggy pants the solution is simple. When uncool parents and grandparents start wearing them they are no longer cool and teens move on to something else.
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enoonsti
Sept. 2, 2006, 4:01 p.m.Dygital: "Oh, come on. With all the current world's problems we choose to go after school kids who wear baggy jeans."
Human behavior has the ability to multi-task ;)
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pewter
Sept. 2, 2006, 4:25 p.m.Sad very sad that people think this is not a problem. It is the root of all problems in America. It may not the top problem, but is just shows what is more important in school. Trashy fashion or, now for those who cannot read big words,
E D U C A T I O N
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nahual
Sept. 2, 2006, 4:36 p.m.Hello
This guy is a wreck...spending precious time in public meetings to discuss his trauma over being exposed to undewear!
Funny he is not complaining about the rest of the gross body parts that humans choose to display by not covering up!
How you ever seen a 250 pounder wearing a Britney Spear look alike outfit? That is gross but Constitutionaly protected.
and what is this thing with wearing flip flops everywhere, all the time? talk about nauseating and gross!
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