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Posted by: TimALoftis 2 years, 10 months agoPope Benedict said in his Christmas message on Monday that mankind, which has reached other planets and worships technology, cannot live without God or turn its back on the hungry.
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samsara15
Dec. 25, 2006, 8:42 a.m.Which God? Budda, Brahman, Jahweh, Allah? There seem to be a lot of choices.
There is certainly much truth about this being an overly materialistic society / world. Whatever God we worship, we should care and do more about those who lose out in the race for more material goods. Be it socialism or capitalism, or some combination therof, we can't leave so many people behind and still have a just society.
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m-simon
Dec. 25, 2006, 7:32 p.m.Technology and science have helped us live better and longer and entertained us as well.
What has the Maker done for us lately? Well, given us the brains and culture to make all that stuff happen.
There is a very important place for the spiritual (the practice of science and especially technology is very spiritual - honesty and truth is required every step of the way).
The Pope ought to embrace (co-opt) science and technology. His figth against it is not only in vain. It is stupid.
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BravoSierra
Dec. 25, 2006, 11:06 p.m....Buddha isn't a god, even asked his followers to not idolize him.
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supabro15
Dec. 25, 2006, 10:28 a.m.um...im not quite sure, but i think hes talking about Jesus??? just a thought though, since its the pope were takling about after all.... >_>
these words couldnt be more truthful though. im 17, and didnt get what i wanted for Christmas. it made me think about things, and how much this day ISNT about presents... its about our lord.
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contrast
Dec. 25, 2006, 11:55 p.m.I tend to think its about appreciating what you DO have not what you wish you had.
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supabro15
Dec. 25, 2006, 10:31 a.m.and for your comment on society..if you are talking about american society..it is perfect. people profit through how much work they put in. it is as simple as that. albiet there are acceptions, and some people are unable to work, society is a get what you give thing.
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John77
Dec. 25, 2006, 12:43 p.m.American society? Perfect? Please, don't insult people's intelligence, and try to use yours to face facts squarely instead of passively accepting what your lying leaders tell you. Many work hard all their lives and still get thrown out on the garbage heap, the income gap continually widens while the rich and idle sit on their trust funds looking the other way, and those with power abuse it to feather their own nest. Not to mention wholesale unasked-for interference in other countries, supplying dictators with weapons, etc etc etc.
American society appears to the disinterested observer to function on greed, fear, aggression and a whacking dose of rank hypocrisy. Can't get much further than the message of the gospel if you ask me, however much they prate about God, whom they have happily re-made in their own image. Bah!
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dtress1d
Dec. 25, 2006, 10:34 a.m.I have noticed that when most people follow the "actual teachings" of their religion (even those who say they do not believe in any god, but themselves & only believe in treating others as they want to be treated) tend to want peace & good will toward all!
Regardless of the religion, or lack thereof, when a part of the holy book is taken out of context, we can and often do get a little hell on earth!
Since the Major Muslim clerics have made public statements that terrorism is AGAINST the Koran, that is nothing but premeditated MURDER. That Int'l Terrorism is not a holy war and those who participate will go to the bad place & not the good place!
Just think if the media would 24x7 these statements, most terrorists would stop NOW, and few would join!
We could have a little of the Peace on Earth & Goodwill toward man that we hear so much about at this time of the year!
Come on media, do your job & help stop the death & destruction!
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Goppy
Dec. 25, 2006, 1:10 p.m.-
What you all don't seem to realize is that the "End of Days" has come and gone.
What we are experiencing today is simply the internal dialogue that naturally occured when you were all still alive!
The specific date of the Rapture occured on this day: January 20, 2001.
Yes, that's right, the day George Bush was sworn in as the First Born Again Christian President of the United States of America.
On that day, Conservative Christians were Swept Away into your own Heaven.
Godless Democrats were condemned to ruling a Secular America.
A land devoide of Christmas - and replaced with the non-denominational, all inclusive, yet vague sense of Holiday.
How we pity, (and yet pray for) you.
Bless You!
And as always, I encourage you to watch Kenneth Copeland, we left him on Planet Earth to serve as a beacon of salvation for each and every one of you long suffering people.
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I-am-the-cat
Dec. 25, 2006, 7:36 p.m.So, are you on the Planet Earth, or not? I'm not sure how you could be typing your comment from Heaven. I'm truly a bit confused.
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Goppy
Dec. 25, 2006, 1:14 p.m.One thing I can say for you Godless Democrats - you did not suffer bloated egos. Of course, this was a mixed blessing for you.
If you were more 'full of yourself', you too could have walked around saying things like -
"if you don't believe like we do, you will be going to hell."
Only someone with very large (you know what) could say stuff like that.
That's why you Democrats are still among the living - running the show, as it were, in our heavenly absence.
For Jesus said:
"Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the Earth"
Of course, without us, I don't see how you shall have much fun.
God Bless.
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GLLove
Dec. 25, 2006, 3:03 p.m.Oh Good grief! As far as I am concerned is this- I take no more credence than that child molesting advocating misiogynist in the Vatican has to say than I take any credence in what's in any tabloid near my local supermarket check out!
I flatly refuse to listen or take to heart anyone that endorses the molestation of children and allows pedophiles continue to prey upon and be sexual predators where children are concerned!
Oh! And Goopy, you are NO more meek than Charlie Manson was ever sane! Perhaps if you read the scripture you would be aware that Christans are supposed to be ambassadors for Christ...says so in 2 Corinthians...Does the Bible NOT say Judge lest thou be judged? For your information I AM a God fearing Registered Deomcrat voter- have been for twenty years now! And you have NO right to make blanket generalizations- makes YOU look like a jack ass and fool! In short- take care of your own, if you did, you'd NOT have time to belittle,castigate and condemn others!!!
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Goppy
Dec. 25, 2006, 3:14 p.m.I think you misunderstood my post.
I understand - because it's coming from Heaven.
My point was that Democrats have been left on Earth.
I was actually giving Liberals a compliment.
Since we Christian Conservatives have moved onto Heaven, we've left you to your own devices on Planet Earth. Thus fulfilling one of the Jesus Beatitudes - The Meek shall inherit the Earth.
Although, we Christian Conservatives never much cared for the Beatitudes.
Everything Jesus said in the Beatitudes could have come right out of Liberal's philosophy!!
I mean, come on, Blessed Be the Peacemakers?
More Cut and Run Rhetoric, if you ask me!!
I'll pray for your soul GLLove!!
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CommonSense50
Dec. 25, 2006, 8:48 p.m.GLLOVE: Agreed!
Goppy is either (1) deliberately being an ass or (2) definitely off his meds.
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BravoSierra
Dec. 25, 2006, 10:56 p.m.Let's see you are judging him to be a belittler, castigator and condemer...
and you are judging him to be a jack ass and a fool...
that's what's so delightful about religious debates...as soon as you criticize someone you wind up breaking the golden rule.
And in this medium we are very close to bearing false witness when we speak harshly to someone...it's almost impossible to know what tone of voice they were speaking in...
It's best to be kind, especially on this topic...
Peace
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GLLove
Dec. 25, 2006, 3:17 p.m.I think I can do with out satanic prayers from a hypocritical religious zealot,thank you very much. And, I wonder WHAT psychotropic Medications you're on! You clearly are delusional...(Or is it you need your Halidol adjusted..you know..that lovely stuff that either renders one a slobering zombie or a homicidal maniac???)
Think I'm going to iggy you before I beat my head bloody attempting to talk sense to someone who's elevator doesn't go all the way to the top....(And lacks ALL the fries in his Happy Meal...and is more than likely AWOL from the nut ward anyway...)
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BravoSierra
Dec. 25, 2006, 10:59 p.m.I appreciate the example of kindness, forgiveness and non-judgmentalness that you show. I realize you are doing it by displaying the opposite to help us understand the difference between kindness and cruelty...putting the two side by side is very instructive. Thank you.
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MajJohn
Dec. 26, 2006, 12:39 a.m.The only world leader I've seen in rags was Castro! Another bigot you! Anti-papist, anti catholic bigot at that! You and goppy are both off your rockers. Your sentiments only show the hatred in your hearts. The two of you are so full of it you don't like each other. Blessings to everyone on this day whether or not you are atheist, Christian, Jew, Moslem or believe in poly-theism. You are all children of the creator.
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GLLove
Dec. 26, 2006, 6:21 a.m.I have NO problems admitting that I am a biggot- at least I am an honest biggot. Don't get me wrong, and for God's sake DO NOT place words in my mouth that I DID NOT, utter!
I meant what I said about the pope- he DOES advocate child molestation and pedophiles that ARE Catholic Clergy to get away with this brutal horrific crimes against children, THEN force them to sign papers that in essence allow their priestly child molesters to get away with their crimes- and the kid pays the price by being excommunicated if he dares seek help or justice in the matter!
I was raised Baptist..and I NEVER ONCE saw MY Pastor get in ANY sort of trouble for molesting the children in HIS Congregation! I'd like to think that Brother Newman would literally go postal if he were ACCUSED of such a thing...if that makes me an anti catholic, anti papist, anti catholic biggot, then, By God and ALL that is holy, I'm proud of those derogatory titles! Thanks SO much for the complement!
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GLLove
Dec. 26, 2006, 6:18 a.m.Now, that I agree with..While the elderly golden boy parasites off the world's less fortunate to live in splendor, just HOW many went with out any sort of Christmas??? They say Karma's a nasty one...The rest? Better left unsaid!
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NelsonR
Dec. 25, 2006, 4:40 p.m.RELIGION would be a fine attribute within mans society but how many have died in the belief that their faith is supreme. Hunger,war,death and misery within the context of human societies has almost been associated with Religious zeal. Now the question of hunger. Abortion is wrong right, especially when the religious abhor the notion. But why increase human population for future starvation and misery all in the name of religion. When will some righteous humans look at all facts and repercussions before denouncing those who condone common sense and morality. The so called moral majority have many hidden agendas that the will not acknowledge to the detriment of human evolution.
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BravoSierra
Dec. 25, 2006, 11:14 p.m.It's too bad almost no one seems to actually read what he says. If it came from anyone but the Pope a lot of people who disagree with him would actually agree. It's like the speech that got Islam all mad at him. The Pope said two very intersting things that actually fly in the face of fundamental Christians as much as anyone. 1) he said sect that seems to think it has God limited and defined is probably mistaken and is diminishing God; and 2) he said that reason is the or a path to God. He basically said he thinks God is larger than any current religions and that blind faith is a mistake. But he's the Pope...no one bothers to read what he actually says...lol.
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BravoSierra
Dec. 25, 2006, 11:21 p.m.If you are following the Golden Rule then the Pope has nothing to do with whether you love him or not...loving our fellow man is a statement and duty imposed on the one who loves not a characteristic of the one being loved. The Golden Rule has to do with unconditional love. Thus, how "lovable" the Pope is or isn't or how many people love him or don't says nothing about him..but it says something about them...lol.
As for whether is makes people mad or not...making them mad or happy isn't his responsibility nor is it in his control to make them one thing or another. I don't say that because I'm religious...it's a fundamental tennant of believing in free will.
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GLLove
Dec. 26, 2006, 6:28 a.m.I didn't half mind John Paull II...He was alright! And, he did a lot of good, especially for those behind the Iron curtain before the Communists got knocked off their totem poles...
But this new joke, Benedict? Nah! Can't stand the Pimping child molester!!! Makes my skin crawl in fact...ugh...
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FreeThoughtMan
Dec. 25, 2006, 5:46 p.m.I am glad to see that the Pope is putting his perspective across on a very delicate subject, which he does well and then quite rightly leaves it for the individual to make his or her mind up on the subject - this is the way it should be.
I myself believe in all realigions and the existance of life within the numerous planets (7000 plus). Personnaly i am disheartened at the current state of the World and hope the next 10 years will show vast improvements - more accurate reporting by the MEDIA will help this tremendously
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BravoSierra
Dec. 25, 2006, 11:31 p.m.The subjects he addresses aren't delicate...people are...and they get so much benefit by throwing fits at every little thing anyone says...they can milk it for months making everyone walk on eggshells around them and being politically correct...lol. Throw a large enough fit and one can silence all critics and make the world think you are the victim while you are at it. Carried to the extreme it looks like radical Islam whose rule is "be perfectly politically correct with what I want or I'll throw such a huge fit I'll kill you." The topic isn't delicate...people are histrionic.
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Tango57
Dec. 25, 2006, 7:40 p.m.Maybe someone should tell the Pope of all the gold in Vatican City, all of the master paintings, all the gold urns and that the dome of Notre Dame is painted in 24kt. gold. Just think of all the good things that could come to children if he would start giving himself, for words alone do not satisfy the soul when it needs food for nurishment, strength to carry on.
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CommonSense50
Dec. 25, 2006, 8:49 p.m.If he gave it all away how could he afford more Prada shoes and his lake-side residence? You mean, actually FOLLOW the precepts of the man he claims to be THE representative of on earth? WOW! WHAT A CONCEPT!
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samsara15
Dec. 25, 2006, 8:51 p.m.In his own way, I thnk the Pope means well, and is very intelligent. However, that is not good enough in a world with as many problems as ours has, and his mindset limits what he can see. We should be glad he is even trying, since he has the power to influence so many people.
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Albion
Dec. 25, 2006, 9:13 p.m.We have so much to thank the Catholic Church for, the Crusades, the Inquisition, Witch Burning, inspiration for the rape of South America and the destruction of the Inca civilisation, helping Nazi's escape after WW2, daft birth control edicts keeping poor people in poverty and helping the spread of Aids, inflaming the rift between Christians and Moslems etc. etc. it just goes on and on.
Whilst I bear no malice against Chatholics in general I wouldn't give the Pope or the Catholic Church the time of day, its just an out of day power base which has no relevance in todays world.
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GLLove
Dec. 26, 2006, 6:33 a.m.Not a darned thing, as best I can tell...Oh! And, did you know about that document that the Catholics have? The one that if a molested child signs it, then at a later date goes and seeks help, or his parents do on his behalf, the kid pays the price- gets excommunicated...Then the vatican shows it's utter disregard for the law, and other jurisdictions by helping the child molester flee justice?
I don't think the Catholic Church has changed or intends to change it's evil ways..I don't think it's so much the lay people that are the evil in question. No, it's the clergy, and heirarchy- including the vatican that are the problems and evil criminal filth!
If what I read was right, Benedict was one of the so called authorities that was behind the creation of the document I refer to...(I could be wrong thought-but, I'm fairly certain that is what I read..)
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eunacom
Dec. 25, 2006, 10:06 p.m.Ratzinger speaks as chief propagandist and "ruler for life" of the Roman Catholic church alone and for no one else. Being charitable and helping the poor and disadvantaged is everybody's responsibility, across the board. The various religions simply split up humanity and engender most of the atrocities commited in the name of some God.
We need a savior who can save humanity from theocratic dictatorships and dogmatic morality preaching that has no regard for real human suffering such as Piergiorgio Welby's plight.
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BravoSierra
Dec. 25, 2006, 10:42 p.m.Who says being charitable and helping the poor and disadvantaged is everybody's responsibility? How did you arrive at that value as opposed to a brutal Darwinism that says that if I'm able I can simply take what they have, kill them and rob the fillings from their teeth? Where does the root of your comment that being charitable and helping the poor and other such things that you seem to consider good are anyone's responsibility at all? How did you arrive at the conclusion that seems implicit in your comments that anybody needs have any regard at all for anyone else's suffering? Where does this come from?
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BravoSierra
Dec. 25, 2006, 10:21 p.m.The Pope is doing his job remarkably well. What is his job you might ask: to take a stand on moral issues. Not to make a profit, not to secure the borders of a country, etc...but to sit down, be knowledgable of, study and take a stand on moral issues. Seeing as Christianity is a freewill based religion he doesn't even have to be right...we are each responsible for our choices...No, he doesn't even have to be right, he simply has to take a stand...and spark humans to think about the right and wrong of things...as we are here. Imagine a world bereft of people who do this job. Imagine if everyone simply stopped thinking of moral and ethical issues and did things simply because they can. The East largely sees free will as a mistake...take Islam for example. But in the West we believe free will is a gift (unless we are behaviorists)...so given that we COULD sink into choosing barbarism as the means of meeting purely hedonistic needs, someone needs to do this work.
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mr-sir
Dec. 25, 2006, 11:41 p.m."Pope: Worship God not Technology"
I wonder what kind of controversy Pope would create if he dared to say "Worship God, not religion". If people followed his advise, then that would put him out of business! Ironic, isn't it? Too often many "religions" almost seem to make themselves out as bigger than the "God" they claim to be following!
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PaganGodess
Dec. 25, 2006, 11:54 p.m.{{n his address, the Pope also made a reference to the controversial case of Piergiorgio Welby, a paralyzed Italian man who was denied a Catholic service because he had asked to die.
"What are we to think of those who choose death in the belief that they are celebrating life?" he said.}}
Unbelievable! From within his posh mansion of gold, this 100 year old relic can sit in judgement on someone in real physical and emotional pain and deny a sinner Catholic service. Hypocrite!
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