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Three years after he was hauled from a hole in the ground by pursuing U.S. forces, Saddam Hussein was hanged Saturday under a sentence imposed by an Iraqi court, al-Hurra TV, al-Arabiya and Sky News TV reported.

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Heloise00
Dec. 29, 2006, 10:18 p.m.
It's interesting how unlike the US, with it's endless appeals, this was carried out pretty quickly.

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  elrod
  Dec. 30, 2006, 12:14 p.m.
  fym669:
  By doing things his way you mean murdering his own people? Wow you are quite a guy. Isn't it about time you strapped on that bomb belt and put us all out of your misery, scumbag???
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  JohnBryansFontaine
  Dec. 30, 2006, 4:57 p.m.
  I greatly appreciate Netscape's respect of this Liberal's First Amendment Rights, even though Beefjerky would oppose them. As to Saddam, considering that his politics were so close to that of Conservatives, ( e.g. he supported, as well as nurtured, a police state, torture, assassination, and nationalism ) it's amazing that the Right is cheering the demise of one of their own. At least they had the honesty to call him a Fascist. In the end, Saddam was a just pathetic old man, who should have spent the rest of his life in solitary.
  
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    JohnBryansFontaine
    Dec. 30, 2006, 5:05 p.m.
    PS
    Or better stated '...just a pathetic old man...' Just, he was anything but.
    
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      Teech
      Dec. 30, 2006, 5:22 p.m.
      EXACTLY like George W. Bush....a pathetic..man who (after his criminal term of office expires) should spend the rest of HIS life in solitary.
      
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        elrod
        Dec. 30, 2006, 11:30 p.m.
        TEECH:
        GEEZ, you are out there!!!
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    AJbon
    Dec. 30, 2006, 7:13 p.m.
    As a conservative, I have to comment on your comparison to Saddam. I mean wow, you nailed it. We are all exactly like that, you've got us all figured out. I'm really glad you actually have something to contribute other than an over-generalized, wildly exaggerated stereotype about conservatives. Mass murder, yep, that's what we're all about. Nice to see such well thought out posts that have more purpose than simply bashing those who don't think exactly like you. Now excuse me, I have to go meet up with my conservative friends to discuss our love of torture and assassination.
    
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      JohnBryansFontaine
      Dec. 30, 2006, 11:25 p.m.
      As if Conservatives don't constantly make 'over-generalized, wildly exaggerated stereotype(s)' regarding Liberals. Sure, and both Saddam and Hitler were actually Libs, of course. I can just see either of them eagerly reading 'New York Times' editorials, or studying their copies of 'The New Republic'.
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  blog2006
  Dec. 30, 2006, 6:46 p.m.
  In 1987 and early 1988,Saddam imported phosphorous pentasulphide and di-isopropylamine.We knew about it,and some US corp participated.He gassed the kurds in march 1988 in Halabja.The US did not vote to condemn that in a UN resolution of aug 1988.
  Furthermore,even though this had ben given as a major reason for his crimes against humanity,it is obvious that we did not want that trial to be held,and he was executed.
  What should have been a day of justice is just another day of shame for Iraq and its occupying forces.
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  copperfloor
  Jan. 3, 2007, 3:41 a.m.
  Beefjerkhead hell calling time for republicans to pay up. You have come up short and your funny wit can't cover the cost.
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  wasntme
  Jan. 3, 2007, 6:18 p.m.
  I know you meant this as a joke but Saddam, as delusional as ever, had in back of his mind that if his Baathi thugs murder enough Americans , at some point Americans will reinstate him from just practical point of view. In fact I read that the AMerican general in charge of Saddam's detention has said that the night before execution Saddam told him he wanted to meet and talk to some American officials. Saddam wanted to tell Americans of his plans for Iraq , Saddam had told him that if Americans give him another chance he will bring Iran to her knees, he will restore security to Iraq and oil shipments and he will put an end to Iran for good for AMericans. This general says that Saddam was told it is too late and Saddam had started shaking so bad that US military doctors had to give him some shots to calm him down. The site reporting this is blocked in US.
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  m-simon
  Dec. 30, 2006, 12:29 a.m.
  Guilt was not in doubt. Like Eichman.
  However, there are a lot of innocent people alive today because our process takes so long.
  http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2006/12/corrup
  On top of that we have a lot of prosecutors who want to win at all costs. Even if it means murdering an innocent person.
  Fortunately that is not a question in Saddam's case.
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  blog2006
  Dec. 30, 2006, 6:21 a.m.
  it is not just slightly ironic that the people who most loudly rejoice are Bush,the Iranians and the Kuwaitis.
  Saddam was trash,but his trial was a joke (and clearly we did not want the real trial,mentioning the gassing and where and how he got the chemicals)
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  WYSIWYGReality
  Dec. 30, 2006, 9:28 a.m.
  Yes Rogue,
  Let's sing ... We're safe now! We're safe now! No more terrorists! No more terrorists! Saddam is dead! The war is over!!!
  Now Let's do something about the other dictators who killed more people than Saddam...
  
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    PopEye52
    Dec. 30, 2006, 9:48 a.m.
    Like Bush he's killed over 3,000 AMERICANS SO FAR, FOR HIS OWN PERSONEL REVEMGE FOR AN ATTEMPT ON DADDIES LIFE. AND FOR WEAPONS OF MASS DISSTRUCTION, THAT DON'T EXIST.
    
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      chitownhustler23
      Dec. 30, 2006, 9:51 a.m.
      when are we going to execute our president for killing thousands of people? Why are we celebrating his death? Cause we were scared of him?
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      Bellizima
      Dec. 30, 2006, 10:16 p.m.
      Exactly, so why is Hussein dead and Bush still alive?
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  mbkijb
  Dec. 30, 2006, 9:35 a.m.
  I was thinking the same thing- too bad America doesn't take the same approach. Imagine the money we taxpayers would save by killing the convicted, tried and true death row people promptly.
  
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    jerryskid1
    Dec. 30, 2006, 11:36 a.m.
    Then what would all the lawyers do? It's the American tradition to prolong issues. How many people in our Legislature are attorneys by trade?
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    swstroup
    Dec. 30, 2006, 12:45 p.m.
    Yes I agree, but only where the evidence is clear that the convicted is guilty, or they have confessed. On the other hand circumstantial evidence only proves it's possible that they are guilty. Hard evidence like motive, opportunity, method, and conspiring. It may sound cold but sworn statements from accusers or people close to the victim are tainted with emotions.
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  HusseinMberwa
  Dec. 30, 2006, 11:55 a.m.
  I was always against the execution of Saddam bcoz I believe Saddam was suppose to spend the rest of his life in custody as a prisoner of war. executing Saddam during an Islamic Holiday was a mistake. this day itself is intended for Muslim to pray and 4give each others. but no 1 paid attention to that.
  Saddam showed braveness by refusing to put on a hood. Yet the footage of Saddam's hanging, with the executioners' heads covered in black cloth, esembles sinisterly beheading of hostages broadcasted by terrorists. It is also a symbol of the worsen situation of Iraq where the law enforcers can't even show their faces.
  GOD YOU ARE THE KING,THE MOST GRACIOUS & THE MOST MERCIFUL. GOD WE SEEK REFUGE TO YOU & WE ASK FOR YOUR FORGIVENESS AS YOU COMMANDED US TO FORGIVE THOSE WHO SIN AGAINST US. OUR WORLD IS DESTRUCTED WITH POLITICS, DICTATORSHIP, UNJUSTICE ACTIONS & WE CALL FOR YOUR KINGDOM SINCE YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO HAVE POSSIBLE AND LONGLASTING SOLUTIONS TO THESE PROBLEMS. Amen
  
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    HusseinMberwa
    Dec. 30, 2006, 1:54 p.m.
    ZeigfeldGirl
    DO you really know what your talking about? or just creating your own things.
    Saddam was to be executed b4 12 midnight in baghdad time to prevent interruption of the Islamic Holiday but it didn't workout.
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    We wanted (Saddam) to be executed on a special day," al-Rubaie told Iraqiya.
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    "Many Muslims, especially Sunnis, making the haj pilgrimage to Mecca were also outraged by the symbolism of hanging Saddam on the holiest day of the year at the start of Eid al-Adha -- some Shi'ites also said his death was a suitable gift from God"
    I hope that proves to you that saddam was hanged during the start of the islamic holiday..again I know you like making things on your own and you need to stop being creative. because sometimes you are creating information that is senseless...
    
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      glaswolf
      Dec. 30, 2006, 6:47 p.m.
      H and Z...perhaps you're both half right, as opposed to half baked. The Sunnis begin the party one day before the Shiites. Truly his death was engineered by Muslims, the Shiite US supported power base. Truly he was executed on a Moslem holiday, the first day for the Sunnis. I suppose only half the Muslims will be ourtraged in homage to their gods, and the other half with be drunk on the new blood they drank. The politically correct have managed to socially engineer another disaster perhaps, stoking the rage factors in Iraq perhaps inadverdently. Afterall, they were only trying to do their god's work...or is it "some god's" work. What is certain is the fighting commands will fragment to some extent and new heads will cast shadows in the moonlight, when a child's cries are less important than other aspects of war's reality. Do some nations execute heads to re-enforce the mythos of great leaders: namely, gods forgive what great leaders make them do out of fear? He died well.
      
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        EDWARDIII
        Dec. 30, 2006, 10:07 p.m.
        Interesting a savy guy like you should say "their gods" in reference to a religion that roars its monotheism at every opportunity. You are too inteligent to have done other than on purpose, but not a good enough writer to make it clear why. Can you tell us what you had in mind, or was I wrong about the inteligent part?
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        wasntme
        Jan. 3, 2007, 5:55 p.m.
        The so called uproar from Muslim Ummah came from self worshipping petro clerics of Wahhabis in Saudi Arabia who will use any occasion to sell their anti Shia hatred. Eid has a beginning and an end and is the same for Muslims Shia or Sunnis and plz keep in mind that Wahhabis are not even Sunnis, they mock the sunnis. Saddam was a thug who killed and maimed more Muslims than any other anti muslim country has ever done in recent memories. Saddam killed more Muslims than Israel has. Saddam killed his own son in laws who were given amnesty by Saddam and lured into Iraq and then were murdered by Saddam's thugs. His grand children have to grow up orphans bcoz granpa killed their dadies.!!
        The justice Saddam recieved was more than a million times better than the justice he gave to his victims. The night before execution he had been given drugs by US doctors bcoz he could not stop shaking. He died really well!!!
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      HusseinMberwa
      Dec. 30, 2006, 11:43 p.m.
      ZeigfeldGirl
      I have no reason to lie in this forum. the problem is you are not smart enough to think and reason. coz you don't even believe the quotes. that is not some thing i said ok coz it was a quote from somebody else.. call me a lier but understand the meaning of a quote first.
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    Shankari25
    Dec. 30, 2006, 7:39 p.m.
    Let's just put it this way. People who were making the Hajj in Mecca got the message that Saddam was killed on their holiday. It didn't make any difference whatsoever if he was killed one hour earlier or later. They got the point that this man was executed on their holiday, which was a slap in the face to Muslims. More of Bush's ineptitude.
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    alxnsc
    Dec. 30, 2006, 4:42 p.m.
    It is not a mistake. It has the purpuse of escalating the war.
    The more the death, the more the hatred - the greater the profit!
    But you are talking about forgiveness...to Saddam and Bush?!
    Well, Saddam is a brave dictator and, the dictator named Bush hasn't still had the chance to prove his bravery. Any difference? They both inspired wars, killings, tortures. They both did a lot to annihilate their nations'dignity. They both have done a lot against humanity!
    Leave forgiveness to the God and try to explain to fighting people that they have to stop the war.
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    wasntme
    Jan. 3, 2007, 5:41 p.m.
    Are you against capital punishment or just against execution of Saddam. First of all Saddam was hanged before the Eid started, Eid just like everything else has a beginning and an end and Iraqis hanged the thug , Saddam before the Eid started. The objection to this came from Wahhabis in Saudi Arabia and some other wahhabi Petro-Clerics who would use any incident to plug in their anti Shia hatred, but then again Wahhabis are not even Sunnis. Saddam , the biggest of all thugs, murdered and sent to death more than million Muslims, he maimed and hurt for life more than two million Muslims, many of his victims were Sunnis such as Iraqi Sunnis, Iraqi Kurds majority of whom are Sunnis, Kuwitie Sunnies and Iranian Arabs who were murdered by Saddam's troops in invasion of Iran. Saddam was a thug and his death should not be used to foement a sectarian violence, expressing sorrow to Saddam's death is an insult to the Muslim Ummah. Muslim Ummah does not need thugs such as Saddam or Bin laden.
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TechnologyExpert
Dec. 29, 2006, 10:20 p.m.
Apparently two of his cohorts, including his half-brother were hung at the same time.

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  GUNGHOGUY
  Dec. 30, 2006, 11:35 a.m.
  Finally, good riddance to Saddam and all his henchmen!! Next?
  
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    awki
    Dec. 30, 2006, 11:48 a.m.
    YOU ARE SOOOOO NAIVE. Death does not punish the one whom is killed. Oneday, when a friend or relative of yours dies, you will know. Killing Saddam does not undo what he has done. It is not the person who is the problem after he is captured and imprisoned, but it is the ideal. What Saddam stood for. And the murder of a guilty man will not stop the ideal. It will strengthen what Saddam told his followers, that the west is evil, and merciless. What defines us as right, and true, is that we do not resort to the indecencies of our enemy. It's called chivalry, and means alot more than your pathetic ignorant rave about an eldery, dying man whose life was taken as a half hearted attempt to cover up that an american president was very, very wrong.
    
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      latinmedstudent
      Dec. 30, 2006, 12:38 p.m.
      Finally.... someone with some sense of decency.... now I'm slightly less cynical.
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      Shankari25
      Dec. 30, 2006, 7:35 p.m.
      I agree with you. We should have taken the high road in this situation. Instead we killed Saddam, his two sons, and one of his brothers. What exactly did this prove? It just proved that Americans can be as cruel as Saddam was. In my opinion this was a revenge killing for Mr. Bush, and nothing else.
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      EDWARDIII
      Dec. 30, 2006, 10:25 p.m.
      Very high-minded, but I suggest you're missing the point.
      There are two places where rules don't exist-- the bottom and the top of society. If you're in some back street one-on-one with a bad antagonist or if you're a head of state struggling with your peers you do what you have to do and let it go.
      Did Mary Queen of Scots win or did Elizabeth the First?
      Charles I, or Cromwell?
      Richard or Henry?
      Saddam may or may not become a martyr but one thing is sure. He won't be there to take over again when the Americans leave.
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      wasntme
      Jan. 3, 2007, 6:09 p.m.
      Saddam stood for thugery. He was the very "good" freind of AMerica and many Western countries when he was fighting Iran, just like Bin Laden was a good buddy of Americans when AMericans were training him and supplying him with all sorts of armament. There was no talk of infidel America or evil west by Saddam or Bin Laden then , it only started after they began to have some opinion differences with America. America , was not Muslim when Bin Laden walked shoulder to shoulder with CIA officers in Afghanistan, Bin Laden discovered America's infidelity later!!! Saddam , mr.murder incorporated killed more Muslims , Sunni and SHias than any other Muslim hating country or leader in our times has. Saddam killed more Muslims than Israel has. It is up to the relatives of his victims to decide if he should be executed or not and I think they, unlike those Wahhabi petro clerics have voiced their opinion. Saddam is not coming back folks and that is one good part of his execution.
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2sidestoeverything
Dec. 29, 2006, 10:31 p.m.
Full circle we put him in power and now we have taken him out of power.

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  m-simon
  Dec. 30, 2006, 12:30 a.m.
  Cleaning up our own mistakes - with the help of the Iraqi people. A good idea. We ought to do it more often.
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  ElectricTalk
  Dec. 30, 2006, 3:14 a.m.
  Never ... Bite the hand that feeds you !!!!
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The18Zulu
Dec. 29, 2006, 10:34 p.m.
Glad he's gone....
Hope he enjoys his virgin harem... buck teeth and armpit hair and all...

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  LvJ92
  Dec. 30, 2006, 12:24 a.m.
  Well turns out that was interpreted wrong. it was in fact Virginians, not virgins.....what a surprise for him. lol(jkjk)
  
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    jerryskid1
    Dec. 30, 2006, 11:37 a.m.
    Hey! Virginians usually have more than one tooth!
    
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      LvJ92
      Dec. 30, 2006, 12:56 p.m.
      lol i didn't mean it that way!...i was thinking more along the lines of some more well armed U.S. citizens waiting to make him as....*ehem*..."comfortable" as possible.
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coreyspring
Dec. 29, 2006, 10:36 p.m.
NBC is reporting celebratory gunfire heard in Baghdad

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  HMTKSteve
  Dec. 29, 2006, 10:43 p.m.
  I'm surprised they are not reporting it as insurgent gun fire!
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  mbkijb
  Dec. 30, 2006, 9:37 a.m.
  oy yoy!
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  disraeli
  Dec. 30, 2006, 9:31 a.m.
  How can you tell the difference between "celebratory" gunfire and the more mundane "kill the infidel" gunfire or the "I'm having a bad day" gunfire or the "can I borrow your wife" gunfire or the "slaughter the innocent" gunfire.
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tehranchik
Dec. 29, 2006, 10:45 p.m.
Been watching the whole thing with AC 360.
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gatitabonitasen
Dec. 29, 2006, 10:50 p.m.
lets see how this is going to affect the events in iraq in time we will know
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ItsXandraDee
Dec. 29, 2006, 10:51 p.m.
I am feeling mixed emotions about this. Of course, Saddam needed to be taken down. But, I'm afraid this will just make him a martyr and even more of a hero in the eyes of terrorists. I just pray for our troops, I fear it may get even worse before it gets better.

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  m-simon
  Dec. 30, 2006, 12:34 a.m.
  All them jihadi martyr wannabees should get their fondest wish. To die at the hands of the infidel.
  But I do see your point. It would be really terrible if they hated us two or three times as much.
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  EDWARDIII
  Dec. 30, 2006, 10:42 p.m.
  You can bet they will attack us and you can bet our guys are expecting it. I wish we hadn't gone there, but we did. We have to fight the people who attack us. Letting S.H. live wouldn't cause them to ease up.
  It comes to mind that there is a certain advantage in being attacked. It brings the enemy out to some degree. Every time he attacks he takes a risk. The more frequent his attacks the less considered they are. Case in point: the period following Tet left the US/ARVN forces in good shape against their enemy, possibly the most advantageous of the war. (Am I wrong about that? I submit my words to correction by those more knoledgable.)
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Neophile
Dec. 29, 2006, 11 p.m.
Problem solved?

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  titlesaysitall
  Dec. 30, 2006, 12:12 a.m.
  Will it blend?
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  flyrodder
  Dec. 30, 2006, 7:39 a.m.
  They (the Liberal media) wouldn't show the trial and damned sure won't show his execution, but they stand by their right to televise the Americans being killed by snipers. What a bunch of hypocites.
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bongy337
Dec. 29, 2006, 11:01 p.m.
Yippie. It only took 3000 young dead soldiers to kill him & get at his oil. Maybe Iraq is better without him (SO WHAT). Parts of Africa are suffering as much or more than Iraq but they don't have no stinking oil. Call me crazy but i think the president should worry about this country first, other countries second. Where was Bush during hurricane Katrina? For years experts said the levies were weak but i guess spending money on a war that makes a few rich is more important. I guess we have a small chance that Iraq could become civilized now?

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  TOD396
  Dec. 29, 2006, 11:27 p.m.
  Bongy,
  Wow, where does it all come from? You have quite a story to tell. You left out few things that Bush was responsible for though. The 4 feet of snow in Denver: Where was Bush during THIS disaster? (He probably caused it to snow). He must hate the people from Denver as much as people from Louisiana. All the Tsunamis in the last 5 years. Every death of every person. Seattle losing the Superbowl. And me not being able to buy a 55" plasma TV for $39.00. Yep, Bush is the root cause of all of it. Once again, he is either a real dumb idiot, or a true mastermind. Please, I implore you all, tell me which one he is. And stop telling me he is both.
  Or maybe he is just a man who is doing the best that he can with what he was given. At least he is doing something, all I ever see here is armchair quarterbacks telling what is wrong, without saying what to do to fix it. Or is your 20 second description of "Just stop" the best you have?
  
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    misanoel
    Dec. 30, 2006, 12:24 a.m.
    Isn't exaggeration somewhere on the list of logical fallacies?
    
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      Mark360
      Dec. 30, 2006, 1:12 a.m.
      Exaggeration has to be on the list. Why there is no way TOD could have gotten that Plasma Tv for $39.00. You'll have to wait for a Democrat President for that. He (She) will solve all of our problems. Ohhh wait! Weren't those levies in disrepair during Clintons reign? Oooops. Sorry now I'm talking lunacy.
      
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        kctransplant
        Dec. 30, 2006, 12:07 p.m.
        And Clinton could have taken out Bin Ladin during his presidency as well. He was only offered up to him on a silver platter, but he didn't seize the opportunity when it presented itself. The government has known that the levies in New Orleans have been inadequate for decades. Several administrations COULD have done something about it, but none did because they felt the cost was too high. Pretty stupid if you ask me, considering that it would have been MUCH cheaper than rebuilding an entire city. I lived in New Orleans for a while. I loved it there. I've wanted to go back there ever since Katrina, but I just can't do it because I would rather remember the Gulf coast the way it was. I just can't stand the thought of what it looks like now.
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    BridgetMiles
    Dec. 30, 2006, 6:42 a.m.
    Bongy,
    Well said!
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    kctransplant
    Dec. 30, 2006, 11:59 a.m.
    Very true. The liberals will have you believe that Bush is the worst human being to ever walk the earth, and EVERYTHING that is wrong with the world is somehow HIS fault. Could Bush have handled some things better than he has? Probably so, but he's had to deal with some of the most difficult things that any president has ever had to deal with. The funny thing about the liberals is while they're quick to point fingers, they NEVER offer any solutions to the problems. We're all still waiting to hear their so-called "better" ways of handling things like the war on terror and recovery for the gulf coast region. Maybe if they actually DID have any "better" plans, they wouldn't be struggling with their credibility.
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  ElectricTalk
  Dec. 30, 2006, 3:24 a.m.
  Bong !
  Well let's see ... We really used the oil we found in Afghanistan ... and yes, the oil in Kuwait really helped too, and you tend to forget the millions on dollars we have sent to Africa, let' say ... in just the last few years. We do have short memories, or is it just ignorance.
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  Acetyll
  Dec. 30, 2006, 10:04 a.m.
  For how many years have the scientists known this and how many President's knew this fact? No one party or person shoulder's the blame for the inadequate construction of the levies. Everyone is to blame from Katrina back to when the levies were first built.
  Iraq better? Maybe, but at least the Iraqi people can decide what they want to do...even if it is to hate America. As humans, they have the right to choose.
  Should we do more in other needy countries. Yes! Let's help them one at a time. Just so you know, per capita, the USA is the most generous country in the world. We are also the largest exporter of donated farm goods in the world. Perhaps it's time for the rest of the world to step up to the plate and help us out.
  Lastly, with great power and wealth comes great responsibility. We may not always do the right thing (party politics) however, I hope we will always at least try to do whats right.
  Peace,
  Acetyl
  
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    kctransplant
    Dec. 30, 2006, 12:19 p.m.
    Exactly. They dropped the ball when they built the levies in the first place. Why bother to build for only a cat 3 when you know that a cat 5, even if rare, is possible? Political stupidity maybe?
    There will ALWAYS be poeple around the world, especially in the middle east, who hate us. The day we decided to get in bed with Israel is when the muslims decided they didn't like us any more. Terrorism is as political as it is religious. Ever notice how Switzerland never has a problem with terrorist attacks? That has everything to do with their perpetual neutrality. They have never done anything to anger the terrorists, so the terrorists have no reason to attack them, even though Switzerland isn't exactly a muslim stronghold.
    Our country has done more than it's fair share of giving aid to the less fortunate in poor countries, which we should because we have the resources to do so.
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liberty
Dec. 29, 2006, 11:14 p.m.
somehow, I think there is something really odd about this whole thing. I almost feel like this was what was planned since the beginning,as if the whole court had already decided before saddam's trial began. This may be justice for many, and if this is what the iraqui people wanted, then they got it. I hope in the coming days more people will not die.

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  TOD396
  Dec. 29, 2006, 11:32 p.m.
  What is odd about a convicted man being hung for the crime he was convicted of? This wasn't an American Court, where you can tie up the court's time with endless legal manuevering for years. This was Iraqi governments legal system at work. He was tried, convicted, and lost his appeal. Do you think he gave even that much to the thousands he had murdered?
  
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    jordan11
    Dec. 30, 2006, 12:07 a.m.
    Do you think he gave even that much to the thousands he had murdered?>>>>
    No, I'm sure he didn't. And isn't it ironic, that he's killed with the same indifference. Doesn't seem right, somehow. I guess I'm just fighting being like him.
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    Sachmo499
    Dec. 30, 2006, 12:11 a.m.
    Actualy it is an "American" court. The Iraqis have never held court proceedings like this before. They had their own ways. This is all orchestrated by the US who has no idea what it is doing at all.
    
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      joemont
      Dec. 30, 2006, 1:35 a.m.
      Well, actually ALL of the Judges, Court Members, etc.,etc., were trained by Professors in International and Civil Law from Case Western University here in the USA.
      Special attention was paid to have the proceedings follow Iraq Law so as not to cause any outcry about this being an "American" court.
      Go Jayhawks!!!
      (:>)
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TOD396
Dec. 29, 2006, 11:30 p.m.
What does that have to do with anything? Oh yeah, Bush made a phone call to Iraq to tell the powers that be to hurry up and hang Saddam so that what Ford said will have less impact. Read that statement and then tell me the truth. You were getting some serious meds when you typed your post, weren't you?

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  ElectricTalk
  Dec. 30, 2006, 3:28 a.m.
  No Johnyu !
  When you hear a stupid comment, you have to respond !
  
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    kctransplant
    Dec. 30, 2006, 12:28 p.m.
    It might help if the thoughts you post made any sense. The trial and planned execution were underway long before president Ford died. Trying to tie the two together is pulling at straws at best. Are you REALLY stupid enough to believe that the timing of Saddam's execution had ANYTHING to do with the timing of presidnet Ford's death, and therefore the timing on when his comments that were critical of president Bush? Comments like that are why liberals sound like they're SO stupid!! Come on, you're smarter than that! Besides, it's not like president Ford has been the only one to criticize president Bush for the way he's handled Iraq, although president Ford was a VERY respectable man whos words DO carry considerable weight.
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BLKEDU
Dec. 29, 2006, 11:30 p.m.
**DEAD** HIS EXECUTION WAS VIDEOTAPED. THEY SHOULD OF EXECUTED HIM 07 NOW WE WILL ALL HAVE TO CELEBRATE NEW YEARS ETC WITH MORE BLOOD SHED.................
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  disraeli
  Dec. 30, 2006, 9:35 a.m.
  Huh?
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  awki
  Dec. 30, 2006, 7:04 a.m.
  BECAUSE OF THE GODDAMN OIL! Face it, the american government is corrupt. There is obviously someone in the Bush administration who has a stake in the oil, or else why didn't he wage a war on president Mugabe? Cause there's no Oil there thats why.
  
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    Acetyll
    Dec. 30, 2006, 10:16 a.m.
    If it was about the oil....how come we aren't taking it? We certainly have the man power to take the oil. Well, I guess then, this war was not about the oil.
    Does this war have a second advantage other than bringing a monster to justice? Of course!! Whether you like it or not the WORLD revolves around oil technology. Once the flow stops, the world's economy will grind to a halt.
    Let's picture a world without oil... Winter sure gets tougher without heat. I hope you have a forrest near your house...ops...global warming.... Do you live in a warm climate? Can you walk everywhere you need to be. What happens when you need the police, fire or ambulance? No oil...no trucks. Can you grow your own food? farmers can't afford fertilizer or diesel fuel.
    Let's just sit back and think how great things are when the oil spigets are running.
    Again, if we wanted the oil, we would just take it. Remember, we have an occupying force that nobody can prevent from taking it!!!
    
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      spkguy
      Dec. 30, 2006, 12:44 p.m.
      Not about the oil? You Sure about that?
      Thursday, December 7th, 2006
      Oil for Sale: Why the Iraq Study Group is Calling for the Privatization of Iraq's Oil Industry
      "All told, the report calls for privatization of Iraq's oil, turning it over to private foreign corporate hands, putting all of the oil in the hands of the central government, and essentially, I would argue, extending the war in Iraq to ensure that US oil companies get what the Bush administration went in there for: control and greater access to Iraq's oil."
      http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/12/0
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    awki
    Dec. 30, 2006, 11:32 a.m.
    You're obviously a very short sighted person if you think the world is going to revolve around oil forever. RENEWABLE ENERGY SOURCES are what we need today, for the sake of our kids if not the planet. Meanwhile DO YOUR RESEARCH! Since the War in Iraq, a new pipeline agreement was created for billions of dollars worth of oil to be channeled out of Iraq bound for the coast, where it will be shipped to the US. You are indeed blind to the truth if you actually believe the US oil trade hasn't benefited from the war.
    
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      kctransplant
      Dec. 30, 2006, 12:47 p.m.
      We won't be oil dependant forever. There's actually no good reason why we still are except for the fact that the oil companies have a LOT of power. However, since we ARE oil dependant, it IS in our best interest to keep costs down. Wanna see the economy crash? Raise the cost of fuel significantly. Inflation will run rampant because the cost of EVERYTHING would go up considerably. The economy would also go into a sharp recession because people would have less money to spend on other things. If the environmentalists would let the oil companies tap into Alaska, we wouldn't need to rely so heavily on foreign oil now would we?
      
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        Acetyll
        Dec. 30, 2006, 4:37 p.m.
        I agree totally that we should not be oil dependent forever. I prefer the "better" renewable sources of energy. However, at this time in history, we are oil dependent. Thus, ALL free governments must act together to secure the oil reserves.
        I disagree with tapping Alaska. Ultimately, the risk of catastrophy is not worth the reward of the few barrels that would be pumped. However, we should be tapping and exploring the reserves off our shorelines.
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  kctransplant
  Dec. 30, 2006, 12:40 p.m.
  Maybe it's because the liberals of this country won't tolerate war, no matter how justified it may be. The liberal media reports the number of US casualties daily, just to slap the president in the face. Personally, I hate war. I hate the very idea of sending our kids overseas, knowing that some of them will not come back. However, I hate the idea of innocent people being killed and tortured by their dictators even more. If a war is necessary, then we must fight. It's amazing how quickly (and conviently) people forgot that WE were attacked 9/11/01 by people who Saddam didn't exactly try to make life difficult for. Did Bush jump the gun and go into Iraq too quickly? That's a VERY good argument to make. Will Iraq be better off without Saddam? It absolutely WILL be if we stay over there long enough to help the new Iraqui government establish itself enough to stablize their country. If we pull out too quickly, it might become worse than it was with Saddam running the country.
  
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    rockmama
    Dec. 30, 2006, 2:44 p.m.
    "However, I hate the idea of innocent people being killed and tortured by their dictators even more. If a war is necessary, then we must fight. "
    If you feel that way...support troops going into Darfur.
    If Iraq wants a new government, they should stand up and make one. Leaning on America is a crutch. What we are doing there is futile...the troops we train are turning on us!! Can they be trusted?
    No Saddam didn't make life difficult for terrorists...but neither did Syria, Lybia, Palestine or Malaysia. Are we occupying those countries and proclaiming to rebuild their government?
    If we pull out it'll be worse because they were doing fine hating us on their own...now we've just given them more motivation.
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  Sachmo499
  Dec. 30, 2006, 12:48 a.m.
  There are bullys much like Saddam all over the world still in power but you do not see the US invading these countries and ousting their leaders. Iraq was not an isolated incident. I understand completely how he ran his country. Ironfisted just like the Soviet Union used to and China and Cuba still do. However I couldn't care less about those people. What I care about is Korea who actualy has WMDs and Iran who want them and will have them in the very near future. Don't kill my brothers and sisters to remove someone from power who is a flea in our hair. How about using our military to remove the real threats to our very existance. Saddam was not a threat to us. Korea and Iraq are. Here and NOW, not in 5 or 10 years.
  
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    Acetyll
    Dec. 30, 2006, 10:17 a.m.
    One at a time....one at a time.
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  kneechay
  Dec. 30, 2006, 4:17 a.m.
  cat: learn to spell t-o-r-t-u-r-e, I wouldn't normally jump on spelling but this is not the first time you've spelt it as though it were a torch... and remember the US supported Saddam's power as long as he kept the oil flowing. You're idealizing the US's motives for going into Iraq, save all that romantic clap trap for the bedtime stories you tell children, try to keep it realistic with the adults please. Bush isn't on a mission to help the poor and oppressed of the world. I mean come on, you don't really think Bush is some philanthropic freedom fighter do you?? Get real! He is a war criminal and a profiteer.
  
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    Sheralyn
    Dec. 30, 2006, 8:52 a.m.
    Uh -- English major here; there is no such word as "spelt".
    As for Saddam, he gave no mercy, he received none. The world is much better off without that vicious man.
    
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      Beggar
      Dec. 30, 2006, 9:38 a.m.
      Uh -- Engineering major here. There is such a word as "spelt." It just happens to be primarily a British construction. Did you get a degree with that major?
      Sure, he was a brutal dictator. Since when did that become America's problem? Are you really prepared to kill off every vicious man in the world? Really? And you consider yourself not vicious?
      To our supposedly Christian president I would suggest some more time reading the words of Christ. Dubya, check your concordance for the phrases:
      "Let he among you who is without sin cast the first stone"
      "Love your enemies"
      "Turn the other cheek"
      "Forgive seventy times seven"
      Then, get down on your knees and beg the Lord for forgiveness.
      
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        kctransplant
        Dec. 30, 2006, 12:55 p.m.
        That's right! Let's just bury our heads in the sand. Whatever happens elsewhere in the world has no effect on us right? Maybe we should have just Let Hitler do whatever he wanted to do as well, seeing how that was overseas, and not here right? Like it or not, what happens elsewhere in the world DOES impact what happens here. Since we have the ability to rid our world of tyrants like Saddam (and other like Hitler as well) it is our duty to do so when necessary. Just imagine what the world would be like if the US didn't get involved in overseas wars when we needed to. I'm sure that there are a LOT more people who are glad we got involved than not. Sometimes doing nothing is far worse than doing something.
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      disraeli
      Dec. 30, 2006, 9:41 a.m.
      Uh - actually there is a word "spelt" but it is an ancient wheat.
      I agree that the world is better off without Saddam, although I am not sure that the cost (inter alia the American and other dead) is/was worth it.
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      kneechay
      Jan. 1, 2007, 4:38 p.m.
      Trivial reply Sheralyn, but my dictionary happens to have an entry for the word, so there.
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    Acetyll
    Dec. 30, 2006, 10:21 a.m.
    Then bring him to trial. Is there a country that isn't jumping for joy we are doing all the dirty work. They all must be because I haven't heard of any of our "friends" say Bush should be tried for war crimes.
    If he is guilty...why isn't he standing trial? Why hasn't the UN come to arrest the President? Why hasn't charges been filed?
    If the world truely hates Bush, how come they aren't doing anything about it?
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  deathray
  Dec. 30, 2006, 10:29 a.m.
  Cat -
  We "freed" him?
  We liberated him from something he didn't want to be librerated from?
  I've seen you post this same drivel word for word on three threads now, and it hasn't gotten any better in the aging.
  Yeah, Saddam was a bad seed. He was also a pawn. We helped create him, and then we helped destroy him, and you say "Bravo Mr. President" as though 300 billion dollars of off budget warfare and 3000 dead American kids (not excep[ting our allies and the dead Iraqis) was a grreat triumph in the war against "Terror".
  I don;t condone Saddam's actions, but to be truthful, an imp[ortant aphorism is important here:
  "Two wrongs don't make a right."
  You need to consider the consequences of the war to begin with before you post that nonsense again.
  
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  kneechay
  Dec. 30, 2006, 4:23 a.m.
  Do you just repeat yourself over and over again? I read the exact same statement by you in another thread. And who says the country is now rescued?!?! Have you seen the news? What, did all the warring factions pack up and go home now that almighty Saddam is dead? Man, you have an unbelievable simplistic notion of what is happening over there.
  
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    MajJohn
    Dec. 30, 2006, 8:49 a.m.
    And you have a totally negative view, the positive news is out there if you look for it. You are just unbelievable.
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  awki
  Dec. 30, 2006, 7 a.m.
  Well I guess the country was rescued from tyranny when the new government was appointed, and Saddam was imprisoned. What was the point in killing him? He couldn't hurt anyone from behind bars. It's inhumane to rejoice in death, in any situation. The only situation where killing can be justified, is one where a death prevents many more deaths. And Saddam wasn't about to leap out of prison and go on a killing spree was he?
  
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    MajJohn
    Dec. 30, 2006, 8:51 a.m.
    One of his death squads could have rescued him, his death helps bring closure for many Iraqis.
    
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      awki
      Dec. 30, 2006, 11:35 a.m.
      It's a sad day indeed if it is possible for a gang of terrorists to free perhaps public enemy no.1 from the clutches of supposedly 'the most powerful nation in the world'
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  deathray
  Dec. 30, 2006, 10:33 a.m.
  Really Cat -
  Well, why dn;t you go fight the tyranny in China, or in the Sudan, or in Somalia? Why not go fight the tyranny in Venezuela, or in some places where American foreign policy turns a blind eye, because it is in our national interest to do so
  Your words sound really pretty, but it's clear that you don;t consider the implicatiions of them.
  Of course you are takng delight in the demise of Saddam Hussein. He tried to kill 43's daddy.
  
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slate
Dec. 29, 2006, 11:45 p.m.
True,,,,, rape rooms. acid rooms... killing family members in front of family members... not to mention the mass graves

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  MajJohn
  Dec. 30, 2006, 8:52 a.m.
  Moron!!
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  kneechay
  Dec. 30, 2006, 4:32 a.m.
  Yeah, I am sure that all those ugly things are safely behind the Iraqis now that Hussein is dead. I guess we can expect troops home tomorrow since there's no one else in that country that would resort to rape and torture right? Get real!! Saddam is a gnat. That place is going to be a bloodbath for years to come. Great for the Military Industrial Complex and a few hyper-rich motherf*#@ers whose children won't ever be anywhere near the carnage, just the profits. Yippee for 1-3% of American society!
  
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    MajJohn
    Dec. 30, 2006, 8:54 a.m.
    Super moron!! Your pathetic a$$ needs blocked.
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    deathray
    Dec. 30, 2006, 10:35 a.m.
    Yes, now we can lall breathe a sigh of relief becasue all the violence in Iraq will just evaporate.
    Irony intended.
    
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dorchesterboy48
Dec. 29, 2006, 11:52 p.m.
What a mistake the Iraqi's have made
Rather than hang Saddam Hussein and make him a martyr who will forever be an inspiration to his followers even in death, the allies should consider giving him a full pardon and reinstate him as head of state with the instructions to sort the country out because it is obvious that the powers to be who are trying at the moment are out of their depth.
After all he at one time was the wests greatest ally in that neck of the woods and with a bit of encouragement could have been so once more.

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  Acetyll
  Dec. 30, 2006, 10:26 a.m.
  Great idea!!! let's see what saddam would do....hmmmm....start murdering all those that oppose him... He wouldn't give a *h*t about collateral damage. Hey, there's a idea, just let the US military start killing EVERYONE that opposes the newly elected government.
  Ah, drat...that pesky Democracy with all that freedom of expresion and speech crap.
  However, that was a great thought....
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Stro
Dec. 30, 2006, 12:05 a.m.
And you thought being on death row in Texas was bad..
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Doc80
Dec. 30, 2006, 12:12 a.m.
Well it's not over yet. Bush could still face that stuff.
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Sachmo499
Dec. 30, 2006, 12:09 a.m.
His death changes nothing. In fact it may even make things worse because as much as it is downplayed in the news Sadaam still had alot of loyal followers and now they are in a position to join the insurgents also.

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  MajJohn
  Dec. 30, 2006, 8:55 a.m.
  They would of anyway.
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mikec777
Dec. 30, 2006, 12:26 a.m.
It happened early in the morning. What a way to wake up. I hope he was a morning person. Personally, I'm not a morning person; if someone woke me up only to execute me, I'd be even more cranky.
Iraq isn't at peace... but their one step closer.
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peace4all
Dec. 30, 2006, 12:29 a.m.
is Bush next?
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bgibbs07
Dec. 30, 2006, 12:31 a.m.
"Well it's not over yet. Bush could still face that stuff."
No, he won't. No matter what you think he's guilty of, it couldn't POSSIBlY be close to what Sadaam did. The fact that you even think Bush could be prosecuted shows your bias and idiocy. I'm not saying that Bush has handled Iraq perfectly, but he isn't guilty of any war crimes, despite what the propaganda says.

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  Mark360
  Dec. 30, 2006, 1:41 a.m.
  Oh yeah? Well, what about saying "God bless you" at the end of his speeches? And even being sworn into office with his hand on the Bible. Now that is religious fanaticism. Whatever happened to separation of church and state? Huh? I'm tellin ya.I think that is pretty close. I bet he still uses US money that says "In God We Trust" on it.
  
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    Acetyll
    Dec. 30, 2006, 4:51 p.m.
    Are you smoking crack? Do you know what has been used for the Presidential inauguration since the first US President? You guessed it...a bible (http://ww...">http://www.fcassociates.com/id27.htm).">(http://ww
    My goodness, do you actually believe GB is the first to say God bless you?
    Do you know what symbols and sayings are used in the US courts? You guessed it...religious.
    How does Congress begin each session? A prayer...
    It's so weird how all this religious symbolism keeps cropping up...don't you think? Perhaps, it is because our founding fathers used Christian ideology to form the basis of our society and government.
    Acetyl
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Chiyonofuji
Dec. 30, 2006, 12:32 a.m.
It is too bad he couldn't face trial for his other crimes like the gassing of the Kurds, but then that might embarrass the wrong people.

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  Creatha
  Dec. 30, 2006, 1:44 p.m.
  like rumsfeld and few other US fascists?!?!
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hughjardon
Dec. 30, 2006, 12:33 a.m.
First of all ,we are there
That cannot be changed .If you look back and blame people you do not like ,YOU are just a moron I ASS U Me you are anyway.
I know people there working very hard and most of them are good people.You hear what the news tells you (left wing a holes) and never see the good that is happening ,because you are closed minded and stupid and may never change for the overall good of this failing country.I sell diamonds and all xmas I heard "are these blood diamonds" my mind said "no you a ss hole" but I did say diamonds are over 95 % automated for the last 20 years and by the way how did you get here ?did you walk or fly in on a glider?Your gasoline has spilled more blood in one day than all the diamonds in the past 100 years yet you ****** out words of hate and say you are so "right on" but you drive to the soccer game with you f u c n TV in the back of your giant SUV.Too many of you born again new virgin walking wounded hippo crits

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  Mark360
  Dec. 30, 2006, 1:21 a.m.
  Wow! Strong words, Dude. You think you could tone it down a bit. It doesn't help your cause with all the head bangin. By the way, how much for the blood diamonds? I love red.
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  Chiyonofuji
  Dec. 30, 2006, 7:04 a.m.
  My point is there is a lot about who helped Saddam and who was responsible for his chemical weapons back in 1988 when he gassed the Kurds, his most imfamous crime against humanity which he was not tried for, that will go to the grave with him. Bishop Desmond Tutu has a point in truth and reconciliation. To end a cycle of violence people need to know who did what and when. The case used against Saddam was one the least likely to embarass interest and agents outside of Iraq. Saddam was a bloodthirsty tyrant in a world with far too many. But as long as the sponsors of tyrants escape justice there will be more. You make an awful lot of assumptions about me in your screed which I won't dignify with a reply, all I am talking about is truth and justice, values I think most of the civilized world share.
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  Chiyonofuji
  Dec. 30, 2006, 7:20 a.m.
  That comment was directed to 'hughhardon'
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  kctransplant
  Dec. 30, 2006, 1:07 p.m.
  Well said. The liberals are too stupid to understand that while it's debatable that we should even be there in the first place, the fact is we ARE there. What is important now is that we finish what we started. I even find myself questioning why we went into Iraq when we did, but I also understand that we MUST see it through until the end. If we don't, Iraq will become one of the most instable places on earth, and will surely be a safehaven for terrorists. It's not that much of a stretch to say that the terrorists could possibly gain power there, then Iraq would be a VERY big threat to just about everyone.

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