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Bkumm
Jan. 14, 2007, 10:52 a.m.
I think Adam Vinitari may be the best clutch player in sports, ever.
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deathray
Jan. 14, 2007, 10:55 a.m.
Let's see if I can't politicize ths in some way...

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  Bkumm
  Jan. 14, 2007, 10:58 a.m.
  I know you can do it!!! I have faith.
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  Goppy
  Jan. 14, 2007, 1:01 p.m.
  Adam Vinitieri is a not good military service evader. He was originally signed to kick for the Army while he attended West Point. But he turned his back on our military nation by leaving the Army before.
  And people say bad things about George Bush for abandoning his National Guard service!
  Me must surely be a Liberal.
  
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    Bkumm
    Jan. 14, 2007, 1:04 p.m.
    All right. Good political. Now, can you make it about religion? Come, on, Goppy, we depend on you.
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Spadecaller
Jan. 14, 2007, 11:14 a.m.
Nerves of steel!
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Bkumm
Jan. 14, 2007, 11:16 a.m.
The guy is amazing. He doesn't seem fazed by the pressure at all.
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mntnman444
Jan. 14, 2007, 12:01 p.m.
Franco Harris...the immaculate reception!

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  Bkumm
  Jan. 14, 2007, 12:03 p.m.
  Harris was a great player, but he is really known for that one catch. I'd say the only guy who can compare with Vinitari in this department in the incomparable Jerry Rice.
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Bkumm
Jan. 14, 2007, 12:20 p.m.
Vinitari kicked a game winner in the snow. Remember?

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  Bkumm
  Jan. 14, 2007, 12:37 p.m.
  45 yarder, against the Raiders, in the snow, 2001 that sent it into overtime. Then he won the game with a 23 yarder.
  
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    Bkumm
    Jan. 14, 2007, 1:03 p.m.
    Hey, that's why I posted this. Let the games begin.
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Bkumm
Jan. 14, 2007, 12:41 p.m.
Here is more ammo:
"In the first 37 years of the Super Bowl, only three men have faced that pressure [to win the game] -- Jim O'Brien of the Baltimore Colts, Scott Norwood of the Buffalo Bills and Adam Vinatieri of the New England Patriots.
O'Brien converted a 32-yarder with five seconds remaining to give Baltimore a 16-13 victory against Dallas in Super Bowl V; Norwood missed a 47-yarder on the final play of Buffalo's 20-19 loss to the New York Giants in Super Bowl XXV; and Vinatieri made a 48-yarder on the final play to give the Patriots a 20-17 victory against the St. Louis Rams two years ago."
By VITO STELLINO The Times-Union
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turnitupsidedown
Jan. 14, 2007, 3:09 p.m.
tom brady is one of those clutch performers. and i sure hope he displays that against the chargers this afternoon. he is what they call money!

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  Bkumm
  Jan. 14, 2007, 3:19 p.m.
  Tom Brady is a heck of a quarterback. I kinda like the Chargers in this one, but we'll see.
  
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    turnitupsidedown
    Jan. 14, 2007, 3:30 p.m.
    i know they have a scarry D. but i think the rookie rivers chokes and the pats LB's zero in on LT. plus Brady=Clutch.
    
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      Bkumm
      Jan. 14, 2007, 3:34 p.m.
      Either way, it should be a good game. How about them Saints!!!??
      
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        turnitupsidedown
        Jan. 14, 2007, 3:48 p.m.
        the line is 4.5 Patriots! as a present to all my netscape pals, i highly highly recommend that you all jump on that 4.5 (not straight-up, grab the points)! i am going 5 dimes, and when i report back to this thread after the game i hope it is with a great big smile as i type Brady=Money! good luck to everyone!
        
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        turnitupsidedown
        Jan. 14, 2007, 8:28 p.m.
        game over Pats win! $$$$$$$$$$...
        
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        Bkumm
        Jan. 14, 2007, 9:17 p.m.
        Yes, yes they did. Barely.
        
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        Watchemoket
        Jan. 14, 2007, 10:10 p.m.
        a 1-point win is as good as a blow-out iin the playoffs. ;-)
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  Watchemoket
  Jan. 14, 2007, 10:08 p.m.
  YES - and he just pulled another victory from the jaws of dsefeat in hostile (and I mean VERY hostile) territory in San Diego. GO PATS!!
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1-2-Oscar
Jan. 14, 2007, 6:17 p.m.
The writer must not be old enough to remember George Blanda.

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  blksentra2
  Jan. 15, 2007, 1:13 a.m.
  Wow! You've been around for a while if you're mentioning that name.
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blksentra2
Jan. 15, 2007, 1:11 a.m.
When you think about it, all of the very good and close games are determined by a single kick.
Kickers are very important guys in the league, just not as exciting as everyone else. That's why they don't get the attention and recognition.
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TOD396
Jan. 15, 2007, 7:34 a.m.
As for my vote, I would like to see any of these guys go out and do it themselves. What, they can't? Oh, you mean in order for them to be the hero, several others have to do something just as heroic, like keep the game close so that a measly field goal will win it. I guess I don't go in for who is the best stuff, when it comes to team sports. Like I said, when any of these kickers can go out and win a game with out the help of others, i will gladly give them thier due.
My vot would be Tiger Woods, and even he has a coach.
MJ, Montana, and several others are more gifted athletes and have made far more game deciding plays than the kickers mentioned.
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Jaydub6669
Jan. 15, 2007, 7:39 a.m.
Thank jebus we got that guy!! GO COLTS!!
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geebeepcb
Jan. 15, 2007, 10:29 a.m.
How quickly we forget. A kicker may get pressure for one play in the game.
What about the guy who threw all those passes to Jerry Rice and beat the Bengals on a late SUPER BOWL drive and has what- four rings and a couple of MVP's - Joe Montana.

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  Jaydub6669
  Jan. 15, 2007, 11:45 a.m.
  I second that!!
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Jaydub6669
Jan. 15, 2007, 11:45 a.m.
Reggie allowishiss Miller!!!
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srokake
Jan. 15, 2007, 12:04 p.m.
the best clutch plater ever? come on.tom brady now theres a clutch player.too bad adam wont get a superbowl this year but he left the patriots,the best team in football for more money. greedy bastard to play with choker peyton. pats all the way go pats go pats go