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Emerging economies such as China are justified in holding back on fighting greenhouse gas emissions until richer polluters like the United States do more to solve the problem, former Vice President Al Gore said Wednesday.

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  • Avg rating: (+0/-1 -1)STONERS
    STONERS
    Feb. 7, 2007, 11:56 p.m.

    "Never before has all of civilization been threatened," Gore said. "We have everything we need to save it, with the possible exception of political will. But political will is a renewable resource."

    • Avg rating: (+7/-0 7)vikes84
      vikes84
      Feb. 8, 2007, 3:40 p.m.

      I'll thrid that. I'll take my advice on climate change from someone who didn't get a D in natural science, thank you very much!!!

      • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)GoldStandard
        GoldStandard
        Feb. 8, 2007, 4:45 p.m.

        If Bush can be considered a "fear-mongerer", so can Gore.

        • Avg rating: (+9/-0 9)NoSpinDave
          NoSpinDave
          Feb. 8, 2007, 4:46 p.m.

          hey.....He cant be an idiot! How can anyone who INVENTED the internet be an idiot? :)

          • Avg rating: (+2/-0 2)beachboy6000
            beachboy6000
            Feb. 8, 2007, 4:54 p.m.

            If its a threat to the world's survival....please tell me why China can keep on polluting? How STUPID can he be? Let's see...the earth's future or china's economy....hmmmmm.

            • Avg rating: (+6/-3 3)questionseverything
              questionseverything
              Feb. 8, 2007, 3:23 p.m.

              halko...how can u dismiss those ice shelves breaking away?

              • Avg rating: (+3/-4 -1)deathray
                deathray
                Feb. 8, 2007, 11:54 a.m.

                I'm not entirely sure that China and India should get a pass; they are really destroying their own environments and polluting, in an attempt t get to where the US is, which would require cleaning their industry up...of course, that would add significant capital costs to their industrialization, so they are willing to kill of a percentage of their already large populations to achieve economic parity with the already industrialized nations.

                On the other hand, the US should lead by example...

                • Avg rating: (+6/-0 6)Spadecaller
                  Spadecaller
                  Feb. 8, 2007, 12:26 p.m.

                  No nation "should" get a "pass", but China is not a country that will bend to foreign pressure; they never do.

                  Like most things, the best way to teach is by example and we are the biggest source of man made pollution in the world.

                  Better that we start cleaning our side of the street first. When China gets hit by more fires and floods, their attitude will problably change on its own.

                  That same lesson applies to us, as well. As more catastrophic weather events kill, cripple, and destroy property, the willingness to face these issues will increase. Greed continues to trump wisdom and hopefully our instinct for self-preservation will emerge before it is too late.

                  • Avg rating: (+14/-0 14)Eagle_Eye
                    Eagle_Eye
                    Feb. 8, 2007, 12:32 p.m.

                    DR, I agree with you regarding China, I watched a program recently filmed in China about how badly polluted they all ready are.

                    In their case it is already to late, all the water in that country has been polluted, there are no fish in the water, they use the water to irrigate the arid fields contaminating the crops and live stock. The crops and live stock are then sold at the markets and the Chinese people are eating it. This is a serious food chain contamination and within 10-20 years you will see a very sick country full of cancer and other diseases.

                    I don't see them ever becoming a super power, they will go the route of Russia and will fail because industry has taken over control of their country and we all know what happens when government supports industry.

                    • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)not2needy
                      not2needy
                      Feb. 8, 2007, 1:16 p.m.

                      No country in the world should get a 'pass', waiting for the US to make what they consider the 'first move' toward trying to correct the damage done to the environment. It's not just the job of the US, it is the job of every nation in the world to fix this. Our environment didn't get in the shape it's in with only the US's use of green house gases.

                      Great post EE. I wish i had seen that program.

                      • Avg rating: (+11/-0 11)bill2936
                        bill2936
                        Feb. 8, 2007, 1:23 p.m.

                        Did OccidentAL Gore give the speech in the northeat, they sure could use the heat of his hot air.

                        • Avg rating: (+3/-0 3)nostalgia
                          nostalgia
                          Feb. 8, 2007, 2:16 p.m.

                          "Emerging economies such as China are justified in holding back on fighting greenhouse gas emissions until richer polluters like the United States do more to solve the problem"

                          What am I missing???

                          US$500 billion deficit that the US administration is running, a further US$47 trillion in unfunded long-term commitments for US Social Security and the federally funded Medicare

                          Almost half of the US Treasury bonds are now owned in Asia - mostly the Chinese

                          "all Beijing has to do is to mention the possibility of a sell order going down the wires. It would devastate the US economy more than any nuclear strike the Chinese could manage at the moment." Quote from the Asia Times Online

                          Now tell me why Gore doesn't think China needs to start cleaning up their pollution????

                          • Avg rating: (+2/-0 2)Amazing1
                            Amazing1
                            Feb. 8, 2007, 3:32 p.m.

                            "Never before has all of civilization been threatened," Gore said. "We have everything we need to save it, with the possible exception of political will. But political will is a renewable resource."

                            I don't think anyone should get a pass and that we ALL should be doing everything we can right now. You, me, the government, the other nations of the world and your next door neighbor. We have not yet felt the effects of all the pollution with which we have poisoned the earth. If we stopped polluting right now, the planet would still take a decade to manifest the effects of our past actions.

                            And if you don't agree there's a problem, well conserve anyway. It only makes sense. If I'm wrong, and there is no problem, I will personally engrave my mea culpas to any I have offended.

                            • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)jovial
                              jovial
                              Feb. 8, 2007, 3:40 p.m.

                              For the more scientifically minded people, here is a draft of the recent UN Global warming report. It was taken directly from the FOX news network, so neocons and conservatives alike can't claim bias. Happy reading!!!

                              http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/SPM2feb07.pdf

                              • Avg rating: (+5/-0 5)Searchbeam
                                Searchbeam
                                Feb. 8, 2007, 10:03 p.m.

                                AMEN!

                                • Avg rating: (+2/-0 2)CharacterCounts
                                  CharacterCounts
                                  Feb. 8, 2007, 3:47 p.m.

                                  All this from a guy who quit Harvard Divinity School. So much for ethics. Sorry Al, no one really takes you seriously.

                                  • Avg rating: (+12/-0 12)Locky12
                                    Locky12
                                    Feb. 8, 2007, 3:55 p.m.

                                    Did Al Gore make that statement from his private jet?

                                    • Avg rating: (+8/-0 8)CharacterCounts
                                      CharacterCounts
                                      Feb. 8, 2007, 3:56 p.m.

                                      Hey Jov, nope just speaking the truth. You Dems need to get another spokesperson...Al Gore makes you guys look bad.

                                      • Avg rating: (+4/-1 3)newsquew
                                        newsquew
                                        Feb. 8, 2007, 4:02 p.m.

                                        Nobel nominee Gore needs to take his show on the road to China & India where there are billions needing to hear his message. By staying in the west (toasty warm Spain), he's pretty much preaching to the choir.

                                        • Avg rating: (+2/-0 2)Eagle_Eye
                                          Eagle_Eye
                                          Feb. 8, 2007, 4:13 p.m.

                                          Stop with the Al Gore and private jet crapola, that is done by all past Presidents and Vice Presidents for security and Secret Service personnel that still protect him. They can't do that on a commercial jet. GGeeezzzzzz.....some people

                                          • Avg rating: (+2/-0 2)PatrioticAmerican
                                            PatrioticAmerican
                                            Feb. 8, 2007, 4:14 p.m.

                                            i want to know what makes gore an expert on global warming, and i also want to know why when he was the VP, didnt he care about the "Global warming" issue as much as he does now, i think it is because he is trying to become popular with the tree huggers and the plant eaters so if he does decide to run in 08 he will have their vote.

                                            • Avg rating: (+1/-0 1)PatrioticAmerican
                                              PatrioticAmerican
                                              Feb. 8, 2007, 4:16 p.m.

                                              And also i dont hear about him walking to these speaking engaments, i wonder how is is getting their with out burning fuel and contributing to the "Problem" that he says we all face

                                              • Avg rating: (+21/-2 19)rwrnae
                                                rwrnae
                                                Feb. 8, 2007, 4:20 p.m.

                                                Can we send Al and Hillary to China? Please?

                                                • Avg rating: (+7/-0 7)jovial
                                                  jovial
                                                  Feb. 8, 2007, 4:22 p.m.

                                                  Gore is just a messenger. The scientists from 130 countries are the experts. Refute their report. Here it is:

                                                  http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/SPM2feb07.pdf

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