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Posted by: _kam0_ 2 years, 9 months agoA study of medieval Islamic art has shown some of its geometric patterns use principles established centuries later by modern mathematicians.
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2Labs
Feb. 23, 2007, 6:50 p.m.What defines this art as Islamic as opposed to Middle Eastern? Is there some religious significance to it?
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LABELDUDE
Feb. 23, 2007, 7:50 p.m."The research shows an important breakthrough had occurred in Islamic mathematics and design by 1200."
I'd put my money on these folks having figured out the math. They were just 800 years ahead of Harvard. We might still have the benefit of their knowledge if the Barbarian Christians hadn't rampaged through the place killing, raping and pillaging for over 200 years.
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sahtoot
Feb. 23, 2007, 9:41 p.m.the only "art" in islam is their "glorious" and "righteous" killings.
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NotVulgarName
Feb. 23, 2007, 10:26 p.m.Islam lead the world in anything? Butchery, Barbarism are the one thing they lead in. Art? Unless it is painted in human blood, I seriously doubt it.
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quiescence
Feb. 23, 2007, 11:05 p.m.I took this article to be a commentary on the innate human capacity to recognize the same beauty of form and structure that can be seen through mathematical analysis.
Not sure why the anti-islam crowd feels the need to use this thread to sound their mindless political rantings. I had thought this thread was about art.
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berbles
Feb. 23, 2007, 11:38 p.m.I'd say some of the most unique art comes out of the Middle East. Since the large Islamic population do not believe in depicting people in art, they found a creative way to create beautiful work.
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season
Feb. 23, 2007, 11:40 p.m.2Labs, this is not to be condescending so please don't take my comments that way. Uzbekistan is the country where Mr. Lu became interested in Islamic art. Uzb was under Russian control from sometime in the 18th century until 1991. Islam is not exclusively a Middle Eastern religion and is spread throughout the world. Islamic art is very beautiful and complex. So is the art at the Sistine Chapel. Art in general integrates mathematics (not necessarily arithmetic but concepts like translations, rotations, dilations, and so on...)
To NotVulgar & shatoot & the rest of you who are commenting in the same vein: Please stop condemning an entire religion because a small segment are insane radicals. Do you condemn Christianity for the recent revelations of priests molesting children? Or for the actions of the television evangelists? Bet you don't. And please don't argue that being molested is not as bad as being killed. Neither are acceptable.
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NotVulgarName
Feb. 23, 2007, 11:53 p.m.I don't defend Christianity or any other religion for the heinous actions performed in the name of their supreme being. Molestings of children is perhaps a far worse act than even murder. However, islam is evil and that is a simple truth that I have experienced and am unlikely to change my mind about after all that I have seen.
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jungleboy
Feb. 24, 2007, 1:22 a.m.ISLAMONLINE.NET/Art & Culture > Fine Arts
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagen
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Daylight
Feb. 24, 2007, 5:20 a.m.Those who call themselves independent are the worst creature that has no protection from God, that is guided by Satan which whispers in the ear and if that seeks refuge in God the Satan withdraws or he will take him to hell that is where Satan and his followers are going to spend their life in the hereafter.
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kobzikov
Feb. 24, 2007, 4:10 a.m."It doesn't matter whether you're selling Jesus or Buddha or civil rights or 'How to Make Money in Real Estate With No Money Down.' That doesn't make you a human being; it makes you a marketing rep. If you want to talk to somebody honestly, as a human being, ask him about his kids. Find out what his dreams are - just to find out, for no other reason. Because as soon as you lay your hands on a conversation to steer it, it's not a conversation anymore; it's a pitch. And you're not a human being; you're a marketing rep."
--Phil Cooper from 'The Big Kahuna'
Stein,
preaching intolerance of other's beliefs doesn't make you or your beliefs any better. So before doing that why don't you consider how you'd feel about someone pushing their beliefs on you?
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Masreyya
Feb. 24, 2007, 6:15 a.m.kwsoonerdoc1
the crusades were not started to protect christianity from islam... the crusades were a lame excuse to enter the middle east and exploit its riches. at that time, the middle east was the largest market, and of course it would be easier to come & steel the goods instead of buying them. that's what the crusades were about.
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Masreyya
Feb. 24, 2007, 6:34 a.m.NotVulgarName
i would like to ask you, on what did you base the idea that Islam is evil? what are the things you saw that would never make you change your mind?
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Masreyya
Feb. 24, 2007, 6:42 a.m.sahtoot
what are you talking about? "the only "art" in islam is their "glorious" and "righteous" killings." where in the world did you get that from? what killings?
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nostalgia
Feb. 24, 2007, 7:05 a.m.The art is beautiful!
I thought that depicting Muhammad was not always banned?
A picture of the prophet seated with his companions appears in
Bal'ami's Persian Version of Tabari's Universal History, from the 14th century. Another image - this one of the birth of the prophet - is found in one of the great achievements of the Islamic book, the Jami' al-tavarikh (Compendium of Chronicles), produced at Tabriz in Iran around 1314. This painting is done in ink, color, and gold. There are other examples
Can anyone tell me if pictures of Muhammad were banned at a certain point in time?
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Masreyya
Feb. 24, 2007, 7:16 a.m.depicting Muhammad has always been banned. so these pictures are either not original, or the comments were wrongfully translated.
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nostalgia
Feb. 24, 2007, 8:16 a.m.Masreyya
Thank you for the reply.
I just looked at another online site and there are many pictures of Muhammad
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Muhammad
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Nowalive
Feb. 24, 2007, 8:43 a.m.Why is this even a discussion of religion? Good art is good art..... from ANY area of the world. I personally like Asian art, but that's just me. Stop turning every thread into Islam vs Christianity. Art, in and of itself, is NOT religious. There are religious depictions, but art is ALL ABOUT the soul of the ARTIST!!!
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Amazing1
Feb. 24, 2007, 9:10 a.m.Well, I thought the art was incredible. Especially if you follow the two links provided by alexia at the top. Without question, their math was far beyond that of the Europeans for many centuries. And there is a real elegance to their art.
Thank you, kam0 for posting this. I will look at all those Islamic designs differently now.
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