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Posted by: populist 2 years, 8 months agoPictures of a polar bear floating precariously on a tiny iceberg have become the defining image of global warming but may be misleading, according to a new study.
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spikecwc
March 10, 2007, 10:28 a.m.Bears are very intelligent and can adapt to changes in their environment. Polar bears are basically just white Grizzlies. They will eat more fish, if the seals disappear.
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Monkey_Scout
March 10, 2007, 11:48 a.m.... I think the bears will be fine... Many people were worried that they would get stranded on ice blocks, but the bears can swim for a 100 miles before getting tired.
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NelsonR
March 10, 2007, 1:39 p.m.I see the main argument for the right of evolution and extinction is that it occurs in Washington D.C.
Polar bears deserve continuation unlike our representatives.
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CovalentBond
March 10, 2007, 4 p.m.((However, Prof Derocher conceded that some polar bear-related evidence of the damaging effect of global warming was misplaced.))
These sky falling types always back down when faced with hard facts. As they don't have any hard facts of their own of any kind. So they say the effects will be felt 30, 50, or 100 years down the road. That way they keep getting their govt. grants. How convenient.
But where is the "Hockey Stick"? It's not in the latest IPCC report. Why? Perhaps because it couldn't pass true scientific examination?
Earth's climate is not as warm as it has been, nor as warm as it's going to get. All on it's own. The climate of the Earth will do as it will, regardless of what we humans do.
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Methysmenos
March 10, 2007, 4:31 p.m."Tina Cunnings, a biologist attached to the Alaskan government, questioned whether they needed sea ice to survive, saying they could adapt to hunt on land and find alternative food sources to seals."
Maybe they could put up a couple of Domino's Pizzarias for them.
If I was a polar bear, I think I would like pizza, lots of anchovies, hold the harp seal.
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TonyByron
March 10, 2007, 5:30 p.m."Polar bears 'thriving as the Arctic warms up'"
This can not be. This is right wing propaganda spread by the global warming deniers.
They must be stopped before any contrary information is released.
Any positive information about climate change is false and those offering proof should be sent to the Hague for summary execution after a fair trial.
Including polar bears who have the nerve to increase their populations in defiance of "facts" presented by "experts" that they should be dieing off.
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WCFIELDS
March 10, 2007, 6:39 p.m.There are either more Polar Bears, fewer Polar Bears or just the same number as before. I'm concerned about the decline of Eskimos. I don't hear much about them anymore. Have these damned Inuettes, or whatever they are, killed them off and taken over? Has global warming killed off the eskimos?
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fotoman1133406
March 10, 2007, 7:48 p.m.Guys,
Sorry but, the pictures we see of the bears and ice ARE NOT misleading. The ice is getting to be les and less; and with less ice--less living space.
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Heloise00
March 10, 2007, 9:06 p.m.What gets me is people seem to act like it doesn't matter what happens to these and other animals, as long as we're ok. Well, the whole world is one big ecosystem and we need to be careful.
I think back to the end of Soylent Green when they said the oceans are dying, etc. etc. thus Soylent Green is people. This type of thing will happen to us unless we start to realize the world as a whole needs protection ... not just what fattens our wallets or enhances humanity's selfish, profligate lifestyle.
Unfortunately, by the time we see the real results it'll be too late for any of us, most likely, to say I told you so to any of the naysayers here, as we'll all be dead.
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Methysmenos
March 10, 2007, 9:29 p.m."Bears on the west coast of Hudson's Bay winter in the vicinity of the town of Churchill, and frequently enter human-inhabited areas searching for food."
That should be a glaring warning that bears' food source is drying up, forcing bears into the human-inhabited areas that they usually avoid. Exactly how are you interpreting this phenomenon?
Actually no.
When you build a town in the middle of the bears migratory
route what would expect? Whos intruding on who here.
Churchill is the polar bear capital of the world. You wanna see bears, you go there.
Of course the odd one is going to wander into town, they take care of it.
The Inuit prefer not to be called Eskimos as it is an Algonquin word that means: eaters of raw meat.
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1-2-Oscar
March 10, 2007, 9:58 p.m.I didn't notice that Limbaugh was participating in this thread, or, indeed, on this website. Perhaps you only mentioned him to discredit any reasonable comments to which you lack enough information to respond. Or perhaps you are intellectually dishonest. It doesn't matter. either way, your comment is worthless.
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1-2-Oscar
March 10, 2007, 10:50 p.m.I seem to have struck paydirt.
Tell me, O Lurking Genius, just who are these "experts?"
And who is following them like a zombie?
If I conclude that you are a fool, I have good reason.
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spikecwc
March 11, 2007, 9:36 a.m.Since none of the "other scientists" have come forward, it can be inferred that they aren't ready to make the same claims.
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spikecwc
March 11, 2007, 9:38 a.m.One person's opinion is "plenty of info"? So it's my opinion that the sky is green, and I have a lot of friends who think so as well.
Sky must be green.
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1-2-Oscar
March 10, 2007, 10:53 p.m.No one in this thread has been hanging on to Limbaugh, Hannity, and Coulter, and no one seems to be worthy of the appelation "neocon." Yet you still pretend that you are an intelligent and honest human being.
What a pity.
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philogical
March 10, 2007, 11:38 p.m.You are entitled to your own opinion, but not to your own facts. However, many on the political left, and yes you are on the left, act as if they are entitled to their own facts and especially the "fact" that those who oppose their ideas are either intellectually or morally inferior. In other words, you cannot oppose global warming, diversity, gun control, or gay marriage unless there is something wrong with you. No hard evidence is necessary to support this conclusion. Indeed, no hard evidence can change this conviction. Just because Prof Derocher said something does not make it true. He is invested in global warming it is after all where he gets his money. No facts are good enough for you. More Polar bears, so what, growing Glaciers in Alaska, where, more snowfall in Greenland and Antarctica must be lies. All of the above is true but you will never admit it because you are invested in failure, you will not believe that you have been snookered.
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1-2-Oscar
March 10, 2007, 11:56 p.m.You may also have a reading disability. No one said you were "pretending to be dishonest." I said that you "pretend to be an intelligent and honest human being." Get one of your more literate friends to explain the distinction to you.
The remainder of your "argument" suggests that you are drinking tonight. Go ahead--it may actually heighten your perceptions and increase your intelligence.
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spikecwc
March 11, 2007, 9:44 a.m.regurgitate, not regergitate
you're, not your
And what do you have against goat herders?
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CovalentBond
March 11, 2007, 12:31 a.m.ROTFLMAO:
Who's on first, What's on second, I Don't Know is on third.
You may not be an Idiot but you sure sound like one.
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spikecwc
March 11, 2007, 9:52 a.m.accusing, not accussing
an honest, not a honest
ammonia, not amonia
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KliesBridge
March 11, 2007, 1:11 a.m.SageXparadox and 1-2-Oscar, STFU already and get back to the topic!! Jesus.
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KliesBridge
March 11, 2007, 1:14 a.m.P.S.: Deroucher is a hack. He's a hack because he has a conservationalist agenda and does not look at all of the facts. And by the way, polar bears will find a way to survive even if all the ice melts and they have no choice but to be land-bound. They will evolve just as we will continue to evolve as our environment changes over the next few million years.
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