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This war has often been cloaked in the name and symbols of our faith, confused American imperial designs with God's purposes, and tragically discredited Christian faith around the world, having so tied it to flawed American behavior and agendas. People around the world sadly believe this is a Christian war. America is not the hope of the earth and

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icelander
March 19, 2007, 4:19 p.m.
"The War Prayer" by atheist Samuel Clemens: http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/making/warprayer.htm
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elzorro2162
March 19, 2007, 4:22 p.m.
What a wonderful and inspiring message! A message of unity to stop this tragic war, a message to separate christianity from being associated unjustly with this indefensible war in terms of faith. It is a call for prayer and faith to finally put an end to this war. And I especially love his spiritual assessment of this war when he says:
{Because this endless war in Iraq is based ultimately on fear; and Jesus says that only perfect love will cast out fear.So tonight we say, as people of faith, as followers of Jesus, that the deep fear that has paralyzed the conscience of this nation, which has caused us to become the kind of people that we are not called to be, that has allowed us to tolerate violations of our most basic values, and that has perpetuated an endless cycle of violence and counter-violence must be exorcised as the demon it is this fear must be cast out!}
Amen! Finally the church has woken out of the stupor in which it has been mesmerized during these last six years!
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jovial
March 19, 2007, 4:48 p.m.
That was marvellous. Excellent Post!
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walden3
March 19, 2007, 4:57 p.m.
beatiful words. as a non-christian may the peace of christ also be with all of you.
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Dionys
March 19, 2007, 6:02 p.m.
I don't know if Wallis is the cure for the Religious Divide, but he's certainly a step in the right direction. It's nice to see good Christians who actually follow the teachings, life and words of Christ presented rather than the Christianists who mouth how much they love Jesus while violating every part of his message.
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Eagle_Eye
March 19, 2007, 8:29 p.m.
Christianity, just like Islam, has it's faith used, abused and at times hijacked for personal gain. It is so very sad, there fore I continue my campaign to eliminate the middle man!!
Go straight to God and complain and pray about the lack of honesty in organized religion.
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JustCallMeV
March 19, 2007, 8:46 p.m.
Outstanding post!
-V-
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mamasan
March 19, 2007, 8:48 p.m.
"It sometimes appears that the light of peace has almost gone out in America, but tonight we re-light the candle and take the light of peace to the White House!"
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War is not a game.
Real humans die and suffer.
We must be very very clear before we go to war that is is absolutely necesary for the safety of America.
Sadly this War is nothing more than handout to Bush & Co.
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NelsonR
March 19, 2007, 9:35 p.m.
It may appear to Mr.Wallis that the world blames religion for this war but I think he does not give credit for individual intelligence.
Mr. Bush who instituted this war is a man that professes to be of high moral and religious character. Naturally the world would see his immoral stand for truely what it is, juvenile thinking avowing that god is by his side. Some will blame the American's or religious for the cause but many more knowledgeable individuals, world wide, know the term of Mr. Bush is finite, two more long years.
Please no feedback that we entered this war to fight terrorist in Iraq!! Now yes, through Bush's policies terrorist abound, home grown and nurtured by continuous bad policies the Democrats have been unable to blunt yet.
Myself I never equated the cause of war as being in anyway associated with Christian Religion. What Bush thinks is anybodys guess. Maybe to him it is a crusade, you will have to ask him. Do not overlook oil as a culprit of war.
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johnkamis64
March 19, 2007, 11:43 p.m.
"It is well that war is so terrible,lest we grow too fond of it."
Robert E. Lee
Battle of Gettysburg
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ETproductions
March 20, 2007, 12:43 a.m.
I was fortunate enough to finish my service in the US Navy just before Vietnam became an inferno. But from that, I knew full well the consequences of war. I was against this war from the start. I said what would go wrong, and it all did.
My son has recently turned 21, and is about to graduate from college and ROTC. I love him. He's a wonderful, dedicated and bright young man. I don't want to send him off to die in George Bush's misbegotten war. I feel just like Mark Twain. All the chest thumping and patriotism and invoking this as God's war be damned. This is Bush's war. This is the Neo-con's war. This is a war that has enriched certain investors in the Military Industrial Complex while running up trillions in debt, making America more vulnerable and accomplishing NOTHING of value.
I don't want to give my son's life for this war. If you do, send yours in my boy's place. Please!
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mcgrievysr
March 20, 2007, 2:44 a.m.
Jim Wallis: a voice of reason and of hope. One of what seems to be only a handful of the evangelicals who have not aligned with this present administration. One of only a few who have seen through the fallacy of "a holy and religious war" rhetoric. May Wallis's voice be heard, and may we skip the "middleman" and take our plea directly to whichever deity we embrace.
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icelander
March 20, 2007, 9:11 a.m.
What's most depressing is that there have been good, solid, non-religious reasons to oppose this war that have been espoused since before it began, but it takes someone appealing to a god to get people off their asses.
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espse
March 20, 2007, 9:57 a.m.
The scum on the toilet of humanity that continue to support Bush/Cheney (undisputedly the most beligerently stupid disaster to this country in history), still continue to support him despite all evidence. These brownshirt cons are the worst scum ever produced by this nation. They put their liberal hatred in front of the country. They put their con ideology in front of whats best for the country. Their calcified brains are incapable of accepting new information, they just do the same things over and over, say the same things over and over. They fit exactly in the classic definition of insanity. The nation is being run by people who are totally insane. But the lying swiftboaters just keep on sliming and slandering, cause that's all they know. Stupid baboons cannot learn, cannot grow, cannot see, think, or even smell the truth if you covered the truth in s..t and rubbed it in their face.
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crespi
March 20, 2007, 12:10 p.m.
Every Fundamentalist Christian I've ever met since 1980 has either been some sort of hate-monger or war-monger, always ready with the name of some minority or country "who should be destroyed."
One Fundamentalist Christian told me his denomination did not consider the "Good Samaratin" to be a "useful" role model!
Kind of like Gonzales saying the Geneva Convention is no longer "viable."
Mean-spirited Christians put these people in power (and thought they could push all of us other Americans around.
There are a lot of postings around of normal people who experienced Christian threats.)
Now the religious fanatics should definitely should stand up and take their fair share of the blame for this horrible mess.
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edromar2
March 20, 2007, 12:41 p.m.
crespi: Unfortunately, those fundamentalist pseudo-Christians are what you say. But at least here is one person who claims to follow Jesus' Way who, at least in this one issue at this time, does. It is so refreshing to find an orthodox Christian who is not a hypocrit on this isue, I can not refrain from celebrating him.
Although many pseudo-Christians are suffering from that sickness of the soul we call fundamentalisn, there are some Christian followers who at least on this subject at this time aare free to look at and state the truth!
Right on. And his reference to God can be overlooked, just as God can except when the rightwing war mongers go marching unto war under that "God's" banner.
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rimbaud
March 20, 2007, 1:36 p.m.
Sometimes Americans forget that there are Christians all over the world! They picture heaven as somewhat like their own suburb... they may be surprised that, in heaven, some of their neighbors are not people they would have liked much in this life.
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davisbeasley
March 20, 2007, 4:11 p.m.
Go see Borat or Jesus Camp if you don't think religious fundamentalism is a sickness in the United States. Apparently building an army of children to futher propogate fear is what Jesus would do. Along with a few bouts of seizures and forehead touching to remove pesky deamons.