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Posted by: Eagle_Eye 2 years, 7 months agoMore bird species in the USA are ranging farther north and even staying there for the winter in a possible sign of adaptation to global warming, ornithologists and conservation groups say. Some indicators come from the recent Great Backyard Bird Count, which found more swallows, orioles and other common birds in uncommon locations.
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Eagle_Eye
March 20, 2007, 8:44 a.m.This is further proof that there is a Climate Change happening. I have noticed less Northern Birds spending the winters in Florida and now I know why.
When the wildlife behaves in this manner then you know there is a definitive change occuring that is altering the Natural Course of things.
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Amazing1
March 20, 2007, 9:42 a.m.It is happening and we should all be paying attention. My brother in Massachusetts saw a cardinal last summer. Not the usual habitat for that bird either. And the plants are also indicating that there is a change happening.
I have peaches forming already on my peach tree. Last summer, four trees fell across my drive. They just died and fell. The berries that usually grow in the woods failed to produce as they normally do. My hyacinths have already bloomed and gone by. I realize this is anecdotal, but it is real.
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kctrixter
March 20, 2007, 9:51 a.m.I didn't realize that we needed more proof that we are in a global warming trend, and I don't really think we will need 20 more years of data to prove it. But the article was correct; birds are a good indicator species.
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fretslinger58
March 20, 2007, 10:18 a.m.Isn't that the truth. The return of the Sandhills to the San Luis valley this year is pretty much as normal as they make their way to Idaho and Canada, however a statement made by Joe Lewandowski from the Colo. division of wildlife sends up a red flag for me. His statement.."They've been migrating for thousands of years, and there's nothing to indicate their migration patterns are changing.If anything, the birds are showing up in more parts of the state, which is an indication they are in good shape." Hummm.. Doesn't the second statement nullify the first? LOL
After thousands of years, now they seem to be in places they never were before. Interesting.
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Amazing1
March 20, 2007, 10:33 a.m.And all this evidence that we proffer here is dismissed as anecdotal. We don't have laboratories, grants, or the credentials, but as people, we KNOW that change is happening because we are observant. Makes me want to kidnap a politician and make 'em WATCH the changes so they will BELIEVE that this is real.
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crespi
March 20, 2007, 11:06 a.m.The birds are screwed. We'll be lucky if 10% make it. You can also expect huge fish die-offs since warm water doesn't hold as much oxygen, cold water species can suffocate.
A picture on Digg or someplace showed a huge number of sea cucumbers all moving in the same direction, which is very unusual and the poster couldn't figure it out.
They were crawling for their freaking lives(!) to get out of the heat and find enough oxygen to breath.
The animals are telling us, warning us, but the Fundamentalist Christians, corporate owners, and Libertarians who so actively block solutions to global warming by refusing to accept ANY responsibility all tell us
not to listen to Mother Nature screaming at us in agony.
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Dascoop
March 20, 2007, 11:42 a.m.Global warming, what's causing it, nature itself or is it something man has done?
We are aware that there is a global warming!
If it's something we have done, are we willing to change our life to make things better or do we just continue to ignore the problem and say it not happening.
The birds are depending on us!
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Bkumm
March 20, 2007, 1:55 p.m.For many people the very idea that global warming could be caused by humans is not reasonable given the size of the system in question. Believe it or not, I used to be one of those people. Here are three graphs that changed my mind utterly.
http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/science/pastcc.ht
Scroll down about halfway down the page.
http://eospso.gsfc.nasa.gov/ftp_docs/Global_Warmin
Page 4 (look especially at when the level of CO2 began to rise)
http://www.un.org/esa/population/publications/WPP2
Again on page 4.
These are the things that changed my mind. Please recognize that each of these pieces of information is not from some private group with an axe of any kind to grind. This information is all from governmental agencies or the UN.
I would have just posted the graphs, but Netscape wouldn't let me. Sorry about that.
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fudgie
March 20, 2007, 2:03 p.m.I live in Western NY, and have been noticing bird oddities. I blew them off as flukes, until now.
Great post, as usual EE.
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DrDash
March 20, 2007, 2:13 p.m.I dont deny global warming.. but?
"Other factors can account for unusual sightings, such as the growing popularity of backyard bird feeders and loss of native habitat to development." and "The American Bird Conservancy noted last month that seven warbler species have shifted more than 65 miles north in a quarter-century." Is that natural for them to move? I am not to sure of this as an indicator. They also talk about how 80,000 people participated this year making the sightings more likely. Its like me crying Ice age because I got record levels of snow in the desert this year. Birds will migrate, and do so as needed for food ect, and those patterns will change... and should as the world is a dynamic place.
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WCFIELDS
March 20, 2007, 2:37 p.m.Isn't CO2 those bubbles in Soda Pop and Beer? Have y'all stopped swilling that stuff yet?
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not2needy
March 20, 2007, 2:45 p.m.I think that there is one fact that we can all agree on, the earth is really warming, and whether it is because of human influence or if it is just the normal course of evolution we must take the responsibility of doing whatever we can to protect it!
All species need protection, humans, birds, and all other species.
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WCFIELDS
March 20, 2007, 3:05 p.m."Bird species showing up farther north." Nome, Alaska now has both a Kentucky Fried Chicken and a Popeye's. Birds are appearing farther North because of the Gas Guzzlers, Cow Belches (etc.) and Methan producing Vegans. Americans have, in great numbers, refused to wear heat reflecting tin foil hats. We're doing it to ourselves.
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stdewar
March 20, 2007, 3:36 p.m.I live in the far north near the base of once was a massive glacier. I used to loved to view this once majestic glacier slowly plodding along, it seemed to have a life of its own. It is now depressing to watch it slowly recede further and further from my view year after year. What could be causing it to recede? Could it be something I am doing? Maybe my bonfires that I use for heating and cooking are too large? Fred Flinstone 8,000 B.C.
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simonsez
March 20, 2007, 4:02 p.m.Do we know if a mild warming trend over the next century is even bad?
Oil is worth nothing if not used for fuel. Food, however, made into fuel could put great pressure on the world's population.
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vidman04
March 20, 2007, 4:25 p.m.Great post EE! Man has watched nature for the changing seasons and weather for thousands of years. If we would just watch and listen to what Mother Nature is trying to tell us......man used to be more attuned to nature than now, pity what we've lost.......
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evolute50
March 20, 2007, 5:01 p.m.I've been a birder for more than 30 years. A number of things have changed in bird ranges and behavior, including non-migratory species (Canada Geese) alien species release and settlement (monk parakeet, house finch) and other trends. There is a noticeable creep in formerly southern species and migratory species staying over the winter here in Illinois. Carolina Wren, robins, hermit thrush, and other species that used to be completely absent during the winter months. We have hard data on these trends because I have participated in the same annual Christmas Count for 30 years. Things are changing.
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Eagle_Eye
March 20, 2007, 6:04 p.m.Unbelievable (Eagle Eye roll) a sinking sock puppet sinks this story!!
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agentX
March 20, 2007, 7:03 p.m.I guess the only way to convince the right-wing is when Alligators start eating boaters in Iowa, right?
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crespi
March 20, 2007, 7:07 p.m.vieamie-
Ask any physicist or ichthyologist about the retention of O2 in different temperature gradients of h20.
And then look up the meaning of the word dumb.
Also, Mother Nature is going to get even with ME?(!) Pal what planet are YOU on? If she "gets" me she "gets" all of us.
That's a viea-you
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Eagle_Eye
March 20, 2007, 7:22 p.m.Grackles are what humans refer to as "Trailer Trash" to my avian species, guess they like where your at.
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crespi
March 20, 2007, 7:24 p.m.Now you're ******in' me off, V.
I hate prideful ignorance.
Grackles are NOT NATIVE to America. They don't have the flight patterns ingrained that took native species ten thousand years
to establish.
Exotic birds (that means non-native) don't have long standing migration routes.
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ades
March 20, 2007, 7:25 p.m.I can't really comment on the science (or lack of) in regards to global warming... and i'm assuming most of us can't. however, something is obviously changing. my friend is a eco-scientist in Alaska. she's seeing species of mushrooms never recorded above WASHINGTON!
Regardless of whether or not we are causing it, glaciers and snow pack disappearing in certain areas of the world is going to be a disaster.
Plus... is a call to cleaner living really a bad thing? I mean it is our home we're talking about.
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Dascoop
March 20, 2007, 7:39 p.m.Mcgrivevysr,
Humans are the ones who are poluting the earth!
Animals are defenseless!
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