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Posted by: Aidenag 2 years, 7 months agoThe soldiers who were there still talk about the September 7 firefight on the Iran-Iraq border in whispers. U.S. troops recount events reluctantly, offering details only on condition that they remain nameless. Everyone seems to sense the possible consequences of revealing that a clash between U.S. and Iranian forces had turned deadly.
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MonkeyBiz
April 1, 2007, 7:54 p.m.Whatever else it might do, having the Iranian Army pouring into Iraq to engage our troops would not add stability to Iraq (or any part of the world for that matter).
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ETproductions
April 1, 2007, 11:46 a.m.Our Middle East policies have been wrong headed for decades, but electing a president with the incompetence of Bush has set things to a full boil. We've created the mess we now have with Iran, and a fine mess it is. It's become increasingly clear that they are determined to develop nuclear weapons. If they do, either the US, the UK, or Israel will have a Hobson's choice. Sell nuclear weapons to the Saudis (and hope to high heaven that the increasingly powerful Islamic fundamentalist movement there doesn't overthrow the King) or use tactical nuclear weapons to destroy Iran's bunker-buster proof nuclear facilities.
For all those who theorized that intelligence was not a prerequisite for presidential performance, this administration's never-ending list of misjudgments and failures should serve as stark proof that the theory is wrong.
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justinsjustice
April 1, 2007, 4:05 p.m.And the Iranian authorities defend the embassy and detain the Iranian equivalents of yourself don't forget that part.
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canadianrancher57
April 1, 2007, 1:33 p.m.I hope this is not just more U.S. propaganda to sell to the American public in preperation for another war. They attacked us I swear they did, anonymous. Makes me wonder.
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walden3
April 1, 2007, 2:03 p.m.i'm thankful that our military is better trained, better educated an better armed then they are.
however, this president and his administration look at war with iran the way a 14 year old boy looks at playboy. it's a done deal. the administration just hasn't found the correct packaging for their new product yet. once they do the gullible american public will eat it hook, line and sinker again.
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canadianrancher57
April 1, 2007, 2:04 p.m.I'll will agree with you about Iran's behavior, they do not want to be a part of the world community and this is being proved by their actions. This being said I hope that if there is ever a militaty action against Iran it is not a go it alone one by the U.S., But the Chinese and the Russians will be very hard to get onside.
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NelsonR
April 1, 2007, 2:06 p.m.Iran will be your grandchildrens problem if the EU and America do not address the issue now. Russia and China have business interest with Iran so they will hinder any meaningful boycott. So do you allow a despotic Theocracy to acquire a nuke when it says, even before constructing one, that it will wipe a nation off the earth?
I noticed Bubba, who I usually agree with, say that the Iranian's were disenchanted. Sorry, I never see that side of Iranians. They mostly have a hawkish nationalistic agenda. Demonstrators for the support of Ahmadinejad and the Imams are what you see and hear. You all forget our embassy personal held and mistreated for over a year and here we go again with our ally.
Normally I am against war but we should issue an unltimatum regarding these soldiers and if a refusal is the answer, bomb them back to the stone age and allow them the right to live with Osama in a cave. Nuke problem solved and our grandchildren are safer.
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justinsjustice
April 1, 2007, 2:16 p.m.This smells like propaganda. I believe this is absolutely fabricated just like the uranium from Niger business that got us into war with Iraq. I think the reason that the Bush adminstration kicked Valerie Plame out was that she worked on real intelligence concerning Iran.
They planned to get rid of the responsible experts so they could claim whatever they want and no one would be able to come forth with the real information. That is what her husband did about the Niger uranium. He knew it was not true and voiced disagreement. If we don't impeach this jack#@$ now we are setting ourselves up for some real danger.
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NelsonR
April 1, 2007, 2:17 p.m.One more point, when you were in a school there was always a bully, did you converse diplomacy with him and tell him about the errors of his ways? Bet it didn't work if you said Yes!!
The only thing a bully knows is force. If you fail to act the bullying will escalate with time, its inevitable.
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canadianrancher57
April 1, 2007, 2:21 p.m.After the screw up in Iraq, whos intelligence can be used. Even the intellegence from Isreal would be largely biased considering they are the ones to be romoved from the face of the earth.
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awschachs
April 1, 2007, 2:30 p.m.There have been numerous "rumors" of American special ops forces entering Iran for intelligence gathering.
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Both sides are doing it. Iran wan't the first to cross a border.
You are all also forgetting that the US CIA was behind the overthrow of the elected leader of Iran in 1953 in order to install the Shah so that American Oil companies would be favored. And Iraq is/has recently passed their law giving American oil companies 75% of the profits from the Iraqii oil for the next 30 years.
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It's all about the US wanting to control the oil. Nothing to do with freedoms or threats to the US. The only threat is to the pocket book of the American oil companies.
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NelsonR
April 1, 2007, 2:42 p.m.enrique53 - Now that is not what I referred to. I said Bomb them back to the stone age. Ground troops, I don't think so unless Bush is making tactical decisions. Then it would be a fiasco with more unneccessary deaths.
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spikecwc
April 1, 2007, 5:31 p.m.We shall see. But doubtful. The explosions will be in Tehran, and at the nuke sites.
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NelsonR
April 1, 2007, 3:08 p.m.Well if they were inane enough to use dirty bombs their country would then be a wasteland. They are not stupid.
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NelsonR
April 1, 2007, 3:06 p.m.Just look at the present Iranian Demonstrations that occur repeatedly. Are they peace demonstrations, they never are. The country is an extremist country desiring to destabilize the world and you would want them to have a nuke????
I have never seen on T.V. a peace demonstration within Iran.
One more thing, what country supports Islamic extremist groups today? Doesn't that alert you to some little bit of danger for the future?
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spikecwc
April 1, 2007, 5:23 p.m.The 1918 flu isn't significant enough of a threat to be worried about. There are medical protections today that would prevent any major problems.
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NelsonR
April 1, 2007, 4:17 p.m.cikbeus99 - Well said. That is an Islamist makeup. We will never be able to change their perceptions of the world. Its either their religion or death to you.
Well, I will have to quantify that statement, all religions espouse being the true religion. Personally I envision a peaceful world without religion and that includes all those of the christianity movement. So Islamist, Muslim pay attention, all westerners do not espouse being righteous. The question can a Muslim be tolerated by his brethern if his rhetoric matches mine. The Christians in my society accept me for an individual. They don't like my thoughts and rebel against them to perserve their religion but within Islam is this possible? I doubt it.
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lum-chate
April 1, 2007, 4:34 p.m.A while ago the world was saying that the US was the sole "super power". Bush has just removed us from "super power" status and destroyed the Atlantic Alliance almost singlehandedly. 2nd rate countries are calling us out - Venezuela, Iran and now even our ally Saudi Arabia The sad thing is that the US is, in fact, in the most vulnerable position we've ever been in centuries.
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ballbuster2
April 1, 2007, 4:38 p.m.bubba2
you appear to have a lot of sentiment and trust for the islamic extremist, that they would listen to reason if given the oportunity, maybe you should go and TALK/NEGOTIATE on behalf of the u.s. citizen's.
war protesting has never done much of anything except to allow the flag and draft card burners an oportunity to continue their cowardly behavior without repercussions against them.
if you really want to help go sign on the dotted line and help fight the bas***d's on their own turf, before YOU are forced to do it on u.s. soil. if they aren't stopped or at least slowed there it will be happening here. the only language they understand is terror and death and that sir, is absolute! too, if you truly do not believe that iran is not heavily involved in all of the problem's/conflict's of the islamic extremist movement, around the world, you sir are a complete fool!
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toddfuller
April 1, 2007, 4:53 p.m.the broken records of enrique and nelsonr have returned. sit back folks and watch jackasses talk
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