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Posted by: MyWayOnNow 2 years, 7 months agoIn his Easter message on Christianity's most joyous day, Pope Benedict XVI on Sunday decried suffering in the world, lamenting the "continual slaughter" in Iraq and expressing worry over unrest and instability in Afghanistan.
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badnootka
April 8, 2007, 9:20 a.m.This man should mind his own business. Another religious leader piping up to deflect attention from the horrors that this religion has perpetrated on it's followers children.
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mcgrievysr
April 8, 2007, 9:24 a.m.While, as a recovering Catholic, I disagree with the Church on many issues, I'm nonetheless glad to see the Pope decry the situation in Iraq. I still want to see our soldiers home as we've caused much of the "slaughter", and we haven't been able to restore any semblance of stability there. The civil war will only add to the bloodshed, but we need to have our kids out of harm's way.
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mcgrievysr
April 8, 2007, 9:34 a.m.MajJohn----"May God's blessings also be given to the Bush haters, the defeatists and the left wing propagandists so that they come to understand what it takes to bring true word peace. The bloodshed needs to stop"
Isn't that what I said? And do you deny that the US hasn't had a major hand in the violence? Are you continuing to deny that we've failed to create stability there?
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ogkidace1
April 8, 2007, 9:44 a.m.Hmmm....if I may interject a few thoughts and maybe appease some and infuriate possibly more. If we just up and leave we create a vacuum we know this. However they are in a civil war. Also they are still being aided by Iran? Or has that stopped? See nobody informs of the details anymore just 'controlled' mass media. What I have to do? Go to Japan, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Israel, and start translating reality for my own purposes? We have the right to freedom of speech and expression yet we have the most controlled and censored media in the world. Right to bear arms yet a 13 year old gets an AK47 as a toy 'over there'. Also if the civilians are FINALLY leaving after months of warnings to years...now we have hard targets. Should we leave however; plant a trojan or 2. Maybe 3-4 or 170,173.
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ogkidace1
April 8, 2007, 9:52 a.m.Either way to our soldiers...my personal blessing is with you. May you walk the path that guides you back safely. I know a lot of people don't believe in this even I sound like I don't but it's needed and thank you for the services. You are in a worse position than I and you are my inspiration to keep going now. If I give up having it 'easy' compared to you...that's a sign of folding. I'm stacked and I just begun to pull out the cards. Plus I got something under the table aimed straight at them ALL. Forgive me GOD for taking your day and turning it into blasphemy but it is only how it seems. I know you know this but others will mistake this. This is everybody's last chance to be nice and just quit. Quit what? Quit hating. Quit using kids as bombs. Quit building weapons. Start building relationships not hardships. That is my message in FULL do not mistake that.
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Poulenc
April 8, 2007, 10:23 a.m.The pope goes no further than to DESCRIBE deteriorating situations; but the very mention of Iraq and Afghanistan in the usual homily (small H) should be noted.
In a better world, he would take the most radical position possible on war--that is, he would not only decry it but place all his church's resources in service of its end--or at least (and more practically and realistically) on ameliorating the suffering it brings.
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pattif
April 8, 2007, 10:43 a.m.I am Catholic (not practicing) but I do not believe your line about the church putting its resources, because anytime anyone who will be listened to speaks of the horrors perhaps more people will listen. I do agree with the last part about the birth control, but what does that have to do with this?
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WCFIELDS
April 8, 2007, 11:49 a.m."Afghanistan is marked by growing unrest and instability,...nothing positive comes from Iraq, torn apart by continual slaughter as the civil population flees."
Er, Thanks Pope, I, Uh, couldn't have said it better myself, I think.
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Zeitgeist
April 8, 2007, 12:03 p.m.Happy easter to all you religious bigots out there....hate christians....ignore radical Islamists....
even on easter...
You guys are so 7th century...
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nikkibabe
April 8, 2007, 12:09 p.m.For ugly American warmongers, truth pinches and hurts. Have you not killed enough, displaced enough and made refugees of enough innocent Iraqi people to justify your invasion and occupation?
Since Adolph Hitler, only 2 war mongers have invaded a country and brought about death and destruction. One a dictator (Sadam invaded Kuwait in 1990) and second an elected leader of a self-proclaimed champion of democracy and human rights (GW Bush invaded Iraq).
Dissolve the UN and create a new world body and place its HQ in a neutral country Switzerland. Bar war mongers from membership.
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jimbrauner
April 8, 2007, 12:34 p.m.I am glad the Pope is at least saying something. As inadaquate as it is, it at least is a small signal that the real message of Jesus is not totally dead in organized Christian religion.
The reference to the Bush cabal and Hitler is well reasoned. The church was mostly silent when he was slaughtering millions using the same kind of logic that the Bush crew uses. We need to kill all these people to save them and make them under our dominion.
Maybe they are waking up to just how evil this invasion is and how it has nothing to do with what is good for the Iraqi people.
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Gatsby
April 8, 2007, 1:20 p.m.I have never agreed with this Pope before (or any Pope for that matter) and probaby never will agree again in the future, but by damn, the old boy has hit the nail on the head here. I hope his influence has some effect. This war has gone on much too long, cost too much money and ended the lives of too many life of young Amdericas. But George Bush is such an idiot that doesn't seem to matter to him.
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Richell
April 8, 2007, 1:35 p.m.So he wants illegals to get citizenship? great, The vatican is a country onto itslef...let him bring them all over there ans make then citizens. Leave my country out of it.
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Richell
April 8, 2007, 1:37 p.m.So he wants illegals to get citizenship? Great, The vatican is a country onto itself...let him bring them all over there and make then citizens. Leave my country out of it.
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JOLeary16
April 8, 2007, 1:53 p.m.Mcgrievesyr, I don't know what you mean by "recovering Catholic." Recovering from what? The Sacraments? The 2,000 years of love in the world? I can't believe the number of people who hate the Church. I will bet they don't know what they are talking about, just like people who hate other things they just heard about from other people who hate whatever or whoever it is. So far as Pope Benedict goes, he is the most intellectual pope we have ever had. Besides, he would give his life for you guys. Why don't you read the article about him in the New York Times for today? It's a pretty fair treatment.
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HomerJS49
April 8, 2007, 2:17 p.m.Taking on both the Vatican and the military dictatorship that ruled his home nation of Brazil from 1964 to 1985, the Red Bishop, Don Helder Camara, was a fearless advocate for the down-trodden. World renowned for relentlessly assailing the ruthless Brazilian government for human rights violations, Camara attacked the Right Wing elements of the Catholic Church with equal vigor. Before Pope John Paul II and Joseph Ratzinger, his reactionary confidant, effectively silenced most liberation theologians (because of their Marxist tendencies), Camara managed to significantly advance the cause of humanity in Brazil.
Camara is noted for once having said, "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist."
Joseph Ratzinger alias The Pope
Another fine example of why I am no longer a catholic...
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earthlover
April 8, 2007, 2:32 p.m.may peace come swiftly to that troubled country, a prayer for all the dead , may peace reign!
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cantfoolme
April 8, 2007, 4:18 p.m.I am sure he is a very nice man but let's face it every Easter the Pope's speech is very predictable. Where ever there is a war with significant loss of life he will make a plea for peace but he is just going through the motions as his comments will not make one jot of a difference to those responsible for the killing. Sad but true.
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HomerJS49
April 8, 2007, 6:02 p.m.Cantfoolme I have to agree with you except, "I'm sure he's a very nice man."
Quote:The Vatican Enforcer-Others believe Ratzinger will be remembered as the architect of John Paul's internal Kulturkampf, intimidating and punishing thinkers in order to restore a model of church. At the most basic level, many Catholics cannot escape the sense that Ratzinger's exercise of ecclesial power is not what Jesus had in mind. Whether necessary prophylaxis or a naked power play, his efforts to curb dissent have left the church more bruised, more divided, than at any point since the close of Vatican II.
Earthlover,If you're speaking of JP II see above. If you're speaking of JP I then maybe you have a point.
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