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Posted by: zaph22 2 years, 8 months agoHouse Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Rep. Tom Lantos, D-San Mateo, just back from a trip to Syria that brought sharp criticism from Republicans and the Bush administration, suggested Tuesday that the two may be interested in taking another diplomatic trip -- to open a dialogue with Iran.
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zaph22
April 11, 2007, 10:32 a.m.Incredible, will she ever learn what her position is, and what isn't.
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djrevelky
April 11, 2007, 11:02 a.m.Is lying about the Israel position not enough for this moron? Is she going to tell Abijihadmadman that Israel agrees with him entirely and has no right to exist?
Maybe we will get lucky and they will take her hostage and then give her back to us as a "gift".
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vidman04
April 11, 2007, 11:02 a.m.No matter how much the Democrats disagree with the Bush White House, there is NO reason for Pelosi to completely disregard policy procedure and make this trip. If she does, without approval from the State Dept. or Bush, she should be arrested for treason on her return. It's not up to her to decide foreign policy......
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jordan11
April 11, 2007, 7:44 p.m.Oh pleeeeese. Back under your bed, and hide. We're not going to blow up the world cause you're scared! How did we deal with Russia? HUH? NEGOTIATIONS! We didn't run around blowing up the world. We used our intelligence services. We used our HEADS. We are not at war with the world! Terrorism can only be 'fought' with intelligence. It's a police action, not a WAR action! And we MUST talk to our enemies!
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miklkit
April 11, 2007, 8:12 p.m.Have you been to any Arab web sites? If you had you might understand why the WTC was attacked. They aren't mad at Americans, they are mad at CORPORATE America. That's why they attacked the WTC twice and not a packed football stadium on a Sunday.
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bubba2
April 11, 2007, 11:50 a.m.Pelosi did not 'disregard policy procedure' at all.
Here are some facts for you, whether you like them or not.
Pelosi told Bush of the trip to Syria a day before they left, and Bush did not object. Despite the White House's 'public' rhetoric, President Bush "did not tell her not to go, nor did the State Department tell us not to go".
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/08/rahall-syri...
Speaker Pelosi accurately relayed a message given to her by Israeli Prime Minister Olmert to Syrian President Assad.
http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?p=215
Republican Darrell Issa met President Bashar Assad last week, a day after a visit by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
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bubba2
April 11, 2007, 11:53 a.m.More ...
Pelosi was briefed by State Department officials before her meetings with the foreign leaders and that State Department officials also attended her meetings. The White House received a read-out of what exactly Pelosi and the foreign leaders said in their meetings. The White House has not openly accused Pelosi of the foreign-policy missteps the Post had accused her of.
Also, Republican congressmen returned from Syria as part of a separate fact-finding trip (at the same time as Pelosi's), supporting the idea of members of Congress visiting Syria, despite Bush Administration protests.
http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/news_theswa...
Rep. Joe Pitts and 2 other Republican congressmen met with Syrian President Bassar Assad. "It was done in cooperation with the administration," said Gabe Neville, Pitts' chief of staff.
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unome2
April 11, 2007, noonThank God we have a few intelligent people in power who realize that communication and diplomacy are greater virtues than dropping bombs and killing innocent civilians.
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zaph22
April 11, 2007, 1 p.m.I believe someone commenting here might want to seriously rethink their position on this. It's not just about Bush or the fact that you hate him so want to support anyone that does something he doesn't approve of. This can come back to haunt any democrat president that ends up with a republican congress too. It is setting a very bad precedent. If Newt had done this when Clinton was in I'd say the same thing, he would have been in violation of the Logan Act, and charging with it would have been the right thing to do. The same as it is now, for Pelosi, and will be in the future. So if you think Pelosi is right now in doing this, then you have no right complaing when a republican speaker does this to a democrat president, now is your hate for Bush worth that?
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jordan11
April 11, 2007, 2:09 p.m.Being criticized by fools should be seen as a compliment. Given their horrific record with everything they touch, if they praised her, she should worry.
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crespi
April 11, 2007, 2:22 p.m.aniokly-
We all know Karl Rove is the President of the shadow government.
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newsquew
April 11, 2007, 2:50 p.m.Pelosi doesn't represent America as a nation. She represents one of hundreds of congressional districts; hers being in or around SF, CA. She has not been elected by a NATIONAL referendum or appointed by a NATIONALLY elected representative to act on behalf of the United States in foreign policy matters. She is leader of a body of hundreds of such representatives that has a very slight majority of her own political ilk.
President Bush is president due to a National consensus choosing him, his ideology, management & leadership style to, among other things, administer foreign polosi... ahh, I meant policy.
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Reignman
April 11, 2007, 2:49 p.m.Oh come on now... Nancy Pelosi is doing great over there, shes really on a roll.. Kudos to her!!! Shes undermining everything we are trying to accomplish, and making a complete fool out of herself, and out of our country.. While offending many women in the Islamic faith!! notice I speak with complete sarcasam... Well its funny the democratic held congress approval ratings is now lower then the presidents!! TAKE A HINT DEMOS!!!!
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Will1313
April 11, 2007, 2:52 p.m.Shes undermining everything we are trying to accomplish..
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just WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.. ????
what ever it is... it just doesn't seem to be working...
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Hawklead
April 11, 2007, 4:03 p.m.Mrs. Pelosi going to Iran is too remicent of when in my day, Jane Fonda went to Hanoi. As a professing Catholic she should be denied communion for her pro abortion stand. As a citizen, she is pushing the envelope on giving aid and comfort to the enemy. Thus far (except in cases to their benifit) No negotions with ANY Arab government has ever benifited our position, the land of Israel, or the people of the United States
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DPittman
April 11, 2007, 4:07 p.m.What the media and most people leave out of the whole "diplomatic solution" argument is that it is just another way of saying lets see how much of the tax payers money we will have to give them to act like they like us for awhile. The thing about extortion is the price will just keep going up!
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zaph22
April 11, 2007, 4:15 p.m.Since there are a few here on the left that don't want to accept the truth, let me repost it, for the third time....
"It is settled beyond peradventure that the authority of the United States over the conduct of foreign relations rests exclusively with the executive branch. As John Marshall, later to become the nation's most important Chief Justice, famously observed, "The President is the sole organ of the nation in its external affairs, and its sole representative with foreign nations.... The [executive] department is entrusted with the whole foreign intercourse of the nation." In 1936, the Supreme Court explicitly acknowledged in its Curtiss-Wright Export decision, the "delicate, plenary and exclusive power of the President as the sole organ of the federal government in the field of international relations[
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zaph22
April 11, 2007, 4:15 p.m.And, as convincingly explained in the Wall Street Journal by the eminent Professor Robert F. Turner, the congressional debate over passage of the Logan Act demonstrates that the law was understood to bar legislative interference with the president's management of American diplomacy. "
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Will1313
April 11, 2007, 4:25 p.m.If indeed she has broken the law .. why hasn't the AG investigated.. by not investigating such an obvious treason is their in fact is one.. he is not upholding the laws of the land that he is sworn to do. he should be removed for office for this alone...
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nostalgia
April 11, 2007, 5:06 p.m.Maybe that is why the House never passed a resolution before their spring break condemning the Iranians for taking the Brits hostage. Pelosi was already planning her Iranian trip and didn't want to make Ahmadinejad angry
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evolute50
April 11, 2007, 5:13 p.m.Zaph22 offers some valuable perspective. The thing to add however is that the landscape of rulebreaking when it comes to government conduct has been controlled by the Bush White House the last six years, and the results have been tragic. Their conduct on every issue they touch is laced with claims of executive privelege and claims that "the rules don't apply to us" (signing statements, secret meetings, wiretapping). Our foreign policy has been conducted with the same brand of dismissive fervor and force. In that atmosphere, Pelosi's trips might be seen more as a corrective action on behalf of the nation, not a breach of governmental protocol. If Clinton had been starting wars, condoning torture, ignoring good government at home and alienating our allies, then a Republican speaker might have been justified in making trips like Pelosi. But the only thing the Republicans could ever pin on Clinton was that he lied about getting a ****** from an intern.
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Harbeas
April 11, 2007, 5:44 p.m.So now Pelosi is setting a precedent. All future house speakers if they disagree with the then current president can continue to undermine his authority by visiting enemies of our country and making their own deals! Not a good precedent here. Somebody should put a stop to this stupidity or should I say partisan politics!
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