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Posted by: jeremytoday 2 years, 8 months agoAn interchange connecting highways to the busy Oakland-San Francisco Bay Bridge collapsed early Sunday after a tractor trailer hauling 8,600 gallons of gasoline caught fire, authorities said.
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Aidenag
April 29, 2007, 11:44 a.m.Man they are in for some bad traffic. That junction is pretty vital. Pics from SFchronicle here:
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harriermech
April 29, 2007, 7:09 p.m.So much for fire not melting steel. I guess Rosie and all of the conspiracy theorist nuts are going to say Bush blew it up.
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MikeReardon
April 29, 2007, 9:30 p.m.The perfect spot to close two major freeways. If it was a smart bomb it could not have done more damage to commuters. The news said Bay Area mass transit is free tomorrow.
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xtaylor0022x
April 29, 2007, 9:39 p.m.H O L Y S H I T!
i cant believe that the driver walked out of it, alive! thats insane. well, god bless him with a good healing...2nd degree is pretty rough.
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Bigtone
April 29, 2007, 9:44 p.m.Fire doesn't melt steel. Talk about stupid. Where are all the Rosie supporters?
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tkepner
April 29, 2007, 11:06 p.m.Fire Doesn't melt Steel? Gosh, then how do they make it in the first place, if not with fire? According to this Fire Forensic site, http://www.tcforensic.com.au/docs/article10.htm... steel MELTS between 1100-1600 degrees F. This isn't the temp. it gets soft at (the temp. where steel is maleable and deforms) which is lower by a few hundred degrees. And according to this industry standard publication, http://www.mace.manchester.ac.uk/project/resear... & Fire 3557 lo res.pdf,
Temps in fires can reach 1200 degrees F.
Oh, look at that, the two temps cross! Gosh, wouldn't you know it, a gasoline fire CAN soften steel and concrete to the point of failure!
And it took me only an hour find these facts. Looks like the conspiracy-theory people haven't even done a little bit of their homework, they just make up their facts!
Terry - www.tkepner.com - T-shirts, Mugs, Stickers, Buttons, & More... with an Attitude!
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innocent-bystander
April 30, 2007, 1:55 a.m.To go south from Berkeley to Oakland you have to go out on the Bay Bridge and turn around midspan at Treasure Island.
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MikeReardon
April 30, 2007, 2:12 a.m.San Francisco 11 pm KGO 7 News fire department said it took 21 min. for the fire to take down the steel in the freeway. They did the comparison to the World Trade Center fires.
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NoWayMan
April 30, 2007, 2:58 a.m.I'm no rosie fan, and I don't have a degree in metallurgy, but I see alot of people on here saying that this fire melted the steel beams.
now, the only story I've seen so far on this (the same story thats reprinted on every news site it seems) is from the AP. and in that story it doesn't say the metal beams were melted.
it says:
Witnesses reported flames rising up to 200 feet into the air. Heat exceeded 2,750 degrees and caused the steel beams holding up the interchange from eastbound I-80 to eastbound Interstate 580 above to buckle and bolts holding the structure together to melt, leading to the collapse, California Department of Transportation director Will Kempton said.
so the steel beams didn't melt according to Will Kempton. what melted were the bolts that held the beams together, which caused the structure to collapse.
just FYI.
and thank god no one was killed.
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SlapALib
April 30, 2007, 3:59 a.m.I've never seen an interchange collapse due to fire. Where's the thermite?
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vidman04
April 30, 2007, 8:56 a.m.What, no comments from Rosie or the other truther nuts? Must be in a meeting trying to come up with a way to blame Bush.....
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joeblowe
April 30, 2007, 9:48 a.m.Well, here's a couple of comments (I'm not a Rosie nut, but anyway...): GASOLINE, not jet fuel, and it was burning in the open with plenty of Oxygen available instead of in an enclosed area starved for oxygen. It does raise some interesting questions though, doesn't it? Anybody know if they use the same grade of steel for highway construction that they use for putting up skyscrapers?
Oh, and yes, of course fire melts steel, but if you visit a steel mill, you WILL NOT find them using gasoline - or jet fuel - to fire the furnaces. They don't burn hot enough. They use coke (NOT the cola, duh.) and force in air to get the temperature up. Last I heard, anyway.
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jumpmaster
April 30, 2007, 10:03 a.m.I thought the bridge collapsed after a team of conspirators worked all week undetected planting shaped charges with remote control detonation.
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vor
April 30, 2007, 10:14 a.m.While you lunatics are talking about nothing but 9/11. This really shows the coming issues we have with our continued lack of investment in our infrastructure. An issue that will continue to be ignored as we pour coffers of borrowed money down the drain in Iraq.
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ListenUP
April 30, 2007, 10:55 a.m.Looks like a job for Haliburton. (looks like a job BY Haliburton!)
BTW, For those of you who THINK Rosie was fired, WRONG. She quit, to pursue a career in Metalurgical Engineering and Hoho Taste Tester.
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decipher
April 30, 2007, 11:37 a.m.i can't believe that some of you (slappy, libssuck et al) missed this. the truck was hauling gasoline.... where does gasoline come from? oil. where does oil come from? you know where it comes from. this was obviously an islamoterriorist act and you guys missed your chance rub our liberal noses in it.
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kriicket
April 30, 2007, 11:38 a.m.First it was moo moo, now its HoHo taste tester...these get better and better....gives me a good chuckle.
Anyway.......sounds like traffic for the people in the area are going to have it rough for a while. Sure am glad the truck driver didn't sustain worse injuries. Hope his recovery is speedy.
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innocent-bystander
April 30, 2007, 12:56 p.m.I'm no expert but I'll take a look. It's 5 minutes from work. It is in the perfect spot where two freeways, north- south and east-west, meet before the Bay Bridge approach. It is in the right spot to cause massive problems. If the beams are not melted the driver must be a mossad/CIA agent trying to aggitate Berkeley leftists, Mayor Newsome and President Pelosi. If the beams are melted I know I'm after a gas station video of an anomaly that I can say is an Exocet missile.
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aceofspades1
April 30, 2007, 1:20 p.m.After seeing months of postings by those who call themselves "truthers" denying scientific fact as to the effect of heat upon building materials, I have come to the realisation that no amount of actual fact & reasoning will change their misguided beliefs. So to them the only answer I have is - YOU ARE A BUNCH OF NEANDERTHAL IDIOTS
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aceofspades1
April 30, 2007, 3:44 p.m.Tenric - I'm surprised this hasn't happened before--
It has -several times in NY - a couple of years ago a tanker caught fire under an overpass of the NY Thruway
the overhead structure & roadway collapsed
Last spring on Rte 7 in Ridgefield Ct a tanker caught fire on a small bridge over the Norwalk River - people I know who were there said it sounded like a large bomb going off & it caused a smoke flume reminiscent of 9/11 but on a smaller scale- We must use steel with a lot of wood in it here on the East coast - because those bridges somehow collapsed just from the heat of the fire.
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eviln3d
April 30, 2007, 3:47 p.m.Truth is... The 9/11 truth seekers were getting close so very close to the truth that the Black Ops needed to stop further digging at the truth... First they convinced Rosie that she was way to good for ABC so she would leave The View (sources in side Black Ops squad 2 said they were tempted to offer her a life times supply of ice cream but were afraid it would cost to much) - it didn't matter Rosie was gone. Now Black Ops Squad 1 was set to initiate project Crossroads. They waited for a tanker truck then quickly shot out its tires with frozen water bullets to avoid detection. As the truck sat burning a crew of men set about thermite charges to bring down the roadway. The original target was supposed to have been an intersection in Orlando that would have used Bush's brother as a helper, but as people enjoy Disney World they decided to do it on a roadway in a city at odds with the President.
And if you believe this, I might be willing to sell you shares in my siberian timshare.
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aceofspades1
April 30, 2007, 4:08 p.m.eviln - I don't know why I'm even bothering to respond to
your nonsense --- so I won't
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