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Posted by: populist 2 years, 6 months agoHis anticipated book written; now it's Professor Tenet's turn to make the pilgrimage route in the promotion of his narrative of events in hope, one guesses, that with a little luck, and a small measure of persuasion, he might enhance not only his pocketbook but also his foggy image with the American public.
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david_nwpa
May 7, 2007, 8:57 p.m.Absolutely right. If Powell and Tenet had resigned simultaneously and spelled out to the American public why they were stepping down, the President would have been hard-pressed to move forward with his ill-fated and poorly planned fiasco that is now Iraq.
Do not get my wrong, I support the troops. Why is it that people would claim, I do not support the troops, when what I want to see is their survival. The neocons simply want to see them die in a war none of us understand.
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truthiness
May 7, 2007, 9:19 p.m.everything he said about bush and his lackeys may be, and probably is, true. that doesn't change the fact that tenet took part in deceiving America and is now playing at CYA.
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samsara15
May 7, 2007, 9:25 p.m.If the kind of people a nation produces for its leaders is any indication, America is in decline. Fortunately, Rome survived for hundreds of years, in spite of inept leadership, so poor leadership does not necessarily doom a society. Rome, however, had the good sense to change course at times in its history when bad leadership threatened its survival. Are we that wise? Tenet's break with the administration does not excuse him for his previous part in its actions.
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ningyo
May 7, 2007, 9:45 p.m.powell and tenet should have been FIRED years ago--we would have been much better served without these spineless appeasers--powell is a gutless wonder who should have retired long ago--tenet is just another dick clarky trying to re-write his legacy--everybody knows so much better in hindsight--i voted for the resoloution but then i found out that what i would have voted for the bill if i knew then what i didnt know now but it was the presidents responsibility to show us the real reasons for his evidence that we voted for--and i stand firmly behind that position today--....baloney
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donald51
May 7, 2007, 10:20 p.m.I like the German proverb quoted in the article! The proverb states: wealth lost, something lost; honor lost, much lost; courage lost, all lost. Interesting and valid to put Colin and Tenet in the same category as far as being able to deter going into Iraq had they stood up; but, Cheney knew this and kept Colin purposefully in the dark, particularly so by giving Rummy all the recovery mission in Iraq (a normal state department mission)! But, Colin should have questioned his brief to the UN better, a day which he now admits was the worst in his life! Courage and honor were lost by both men to the detriment of the country!
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donald51
May 7, 2007, 11:14 p.m.Goldrush, why would you tube a story like this? Why was your greatest single participation in an issue on this forum to fallaciously try to debunk global warming? Don't you believe in the goodness of America and that it should be an honorable and wholesome place for your kids and grand kids to grow up in? If so, your comments on this forum are not indicating so!
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KingOfTruth
May 8, 2007, 2:19 a.m.We listened to a Clintonista and went to wrar because of what he said....which proves once again that liberalism IS a mental disorder...
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edromar2
May 8, 2007, 11:05 a.m.One of the primary methods of providing deniability to bosses black as sin that I was taught in intelligence work was the method of "coming clean" by admitting what it would bne absurd to deny and spinning it to one's boss's advantage. At the same time, to be effective, that mode of providing deniability to one's boss requires the appearance of an attack on him/her and fake protests claiming that boss was at fault in every non-crucial matter. That is just what TENET IS DOING--APPARENTLY.
Tenet is still lying to make the American dupes believe that our intelligence services were duped by the claims he pretends he provided to the President. The fact is that the people in the trenches said then and they say now, that no one who dealt with the actual data bought thye silliness Tenet claims he passed on to the White House.
The fact is he is still fallen on his sword--but thinks it will be more convincing to wiggle it around just a little bit.
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Gotitright
May 8, 2007, 1:11 p.m.Tenant and Powell will sell books the best way they know how. There is actually one man that could have prevented the war in Iraq, Saddam Hussein. He started it by entering Kuwait and not following the treaty. Everyone else did what they had to do. Where do liberals want to fight the war on terror? or do thay want to wait for the next attack in this country? Live and learn or live and repeat the same mistake. My favorite German proverb: Bad bread is not bad. No bread, that is bad.
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cushi
May 8, 2007, 2:44 p.m.Whatever Clinton and Kerry believed, they would've let the UN inspectors finish their job, I'm sure, and they would've made damn sure their intelligence was on the up and up if it ever did become necessary to send our troops into harms way. Furthermore, they wouldn't have ******ed off our allies so that we had to send the bulk of the fighting force in ourselves, and consequently suffer the largest number of casualties outside of the Iraqis themselves.
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1-2-Oscar
May 8, 2007, 2:27 p.m.Ben Tansoborn, the author of the book review "populist" thinks is so great, has absolutely no experience in the CIA or any other intelligence agency. In fact, his interests include "the treatment, in either short story or novella form, of historical fiction, myths and legends, contemporary romance and narrative poetry." This information is derived from his own biography, located at http://www.populistamerica.com/ben_tanosborn.
A perusal of articles submitted to this forum from that source will reveal that many are dependent upon "historical fiction, myths and legends." There is no semblance of accurate reporting or rational and unbiased analysis in populistamerica.com, only a succession of partisan diatribes. But what I most resent is that the honorable term, "populist," has been preempted and misused by socialists.
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Gatsby
May 8, 2007, 2:43 p.m.Let's forget about Tenet. His ass is toast. His credibility is lower than Bush's approval rating.
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Searchbeam
May 8, 2007, 3:21 p.m.Not so fast, Gatsby!
This guy is responsible for hiding the intelligence that would have made difference and saved hundreds of thousands of innocent lives. He has blood of the innocents on his hands. An independent Prosecutor is what is needed to straighten out his and Powell's mess! Let us also not forget Dummy Rummy and Shotgun Dickie- the two major villains of this dark chapter of history. And Paul Bremmer should not escape the wrath, either.
If you impeach one, the rest will fall down like broken limbs of a diseased tree.
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liberty
May 8, 2007, 3:50 p.m.I believe Tenet is telling the thruth in the behind the scenes before the war, but it does not excuse that he is a trator to United States and to Humanity. He could have saved hundred of thoursands of people, now I wish he would just be sent to guantanamo bay, where cheney has says there is no "toture".
we should send cheney, bush, rumsfeld and powell there too. Maybe not powell, he at least has not continued to lie or used the thruth to make money yet...but he should be judge and be sent to jail too
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Teagen
May 8, 2007, 3:50 p.m.How does anyone read anything from this guy and consider it credible. Under his lead we bombed an aspirin plant in Africa and launched practice missiles into Afghanistan. The other problem, his book mentions OBL and other dangers. The only thing the press reports is the lack of nukes in Iraq. We've found the chemical and biological weapons along with the bodies of the Kurds he used them on. Listening to him is like getting advice from Albright. Another Clinton staffer to busy covering up for Willy's willy.
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slate
May 8, 2007, 4:36 p.m.so we are to turn a blind eye to Clinton's connection in how the lead up to this war went simply because it helps your case?
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crghss
May 8, 2007, 5:03 p.m.More nutscape dribble. When did this become the populistamerica.com site. Nothing but opinion based BS or the rantings of a self gratifing under the keyboard nerd who really needs a life.
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spellbreak
May 8, 2007, 5:15 p.m.So much left out. History, for example. Saddam didn't just pop up in 2001, or in 1990. Check the U.S. history re Iraq and what happened with the Inspections under Clinton. What about April Gillispie, Saddam's approach and what we said? Review the W H Press Secretary (what was her name? -- she is on tape) on our relationship with Kuwait before the invasion. Check the statements / books by Scott Ritter and others. Check the Yellow cake story against what the International Atomic Energy Agency Director said (It was absurd on its face.) and the Brit's admissions about the 10 year old plus student paper which they plagurized complete with typos and claimed it was current, correct intelligence. We said we believed it. And on ...
How could anyone believed any of this? How can anyone now believe denials and claims by the Congress or the Administration or the Press of "being mislead"?
It isn't as if no one was told or that the facts weren't available and clear.
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nahual
May 8, 2007, 5:47 p.m.UHm so Tenet is spilling the beans finally. Colin Powell is no innocent by stander in this little fiasco and dont forget Ms Condolezza Rice,she is in it up to her ears as well.
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nahual
May 8, 2007, 6:11 p.m.Tenet, traitor or not, was at the time working for the Bush Administration.Receiving orders and instructions directly from Dick Cheney,Vice President,in the Bush Administration.
If Tenet is a traitor, liberal or othewise, certainly George W. Bush and Dick Cheney ar equally guilty of treason.
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pongping
May 8, 2007, 6:43 p.m.And that foreign agent, Richard Perle, said something like "those generals are not qualified to make political decisions."
There were voices, but they were blowing in the wind. I think the media was just as cowardly, or had its own agenda.
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questionseverything
May 8, 2007, 6:51 p.m.well here in illinois we saw the un begging the us to let the inspectors finish......i hollared long and loud but didnt change anything,i thought we should of followed obl and finished the job
but then what do i know i figured we would be at war days after the inaugration ,as we had just received proof about al quida and the us cole,but bush went on vacation and acted like terrorism didnt excist
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