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Posted by: populist 2 years, 5 months agoA review of Chris Hedges' new book, The Christian Right and the War on America. It's an incisive examination of the huge threat extremist Christian fascists pose to a shaky free society most people in the US take for granted but no longer will after reading this important book.
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populist
May 22, 2007, 9:46 p.m."Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power."
--attributed to Mussolini
Thought that was interesting to add...
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david_nwpa
May 22, 2007, 9:48 p.m.At first, I would have argued that such rhetoric seems a bit extreme. No such rise to power could possibly exist in this country. Though the right wing holds tremendous sway in the US, the government will not yield to the right as long as Bush pays only lip service to their causes. Having said that, I am fearful that their minions are gaining hold outside of Washington. It seems highly likely that some states are entrenched with extreme right wing Christian Dogma, and it is spreading in such a way that non-believers may find themselves marching down an eerie path. Do not challenge the government lest Pat Robertson comes knocking on your door!
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david_nwpa
May 22, 2007, 9:49 p.m.Is it true that 700 Club members say "Sieg Pat!" to their television screens when he is on?
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eugenegerard
May 22, 2007, 10:41 p.m.Populist I love that Mussolini quote. Here is one from Sinclair Lewis.
"When facism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."
Sinclair Lewis
I wish these insiteful comments never came to pass.
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jdhatl
May 22, 2007, 10:46 p.m.Fascism came here as soon as it existed anywhere, it nearly took over in the 50's and early 60's until the counterculture exploded making it impossible. They were in retreat, but they are snaky little devils and they've wormed their way back to the top. Unfortunately, they are stupider than ever, so the whole world can see them for what they are
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THOMNH62
May 23, 2007, 3:38 a.m.and the hole world can see what the left has become, a haven for commies.
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KingOfTruth
May 23, 2007, 6:10 a.m.Actually fascism come back as Islamofascim and in the US...DemLibofascim also known as NeoCommies....
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nostalgia
May 23, 2007, 7:30 a.m.A NEW survey in the US has found that most Muslims do not favor the practice of suicide bombing, however almost 1/4 of young Muslims think they are acceptable in some cases.
http://www.religiousintelligence.co.uk/news/?Ne...
The figures of those young Muslims who back suicide bombings has caused alarm. Just 2% said it was justified. But 13% said it could be justified "sometimes" and another 11% said it was acceptable "rarely".
The head of the US-based Center for the Study of Islam and Democracy told AP: "It's a hair-raising number".
I think we have more to worry about than Christians
The San Antonio Express News is running a multipart series on Iraqi's sneaking into the US across the Mexican border
Breaching America: War refugees or threats?
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/...
The reporter has been working on this for at least 6 months. He even went to Syria. What he uncovered is amazing!
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sixshot
May 23, 2007, 7:57 a.m.ah yes you right wing neo nazi fundamentalist religeous nut jobs red necked kkk bastards did i leave any out your tiny brained name calling doesn't get you any respect just the rest of us doubt your intelegence you probally wouldn't know a commie if you fell over one.
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DrWatson
May 23, 2007, 9:01 a.m.Americans are EXTREMISTS......period. How many countries would gladly entertain such events as the Great Depression, prohibition, harbour hundreds of whacky religious cults, such as Mormonism, create scandals such as bankrupting thousands of savings and loan institutions. Add Watergate, creating wars out of thin air and lies.
Virtually every Republican Pres in the 20th and 21st centuries has thrown this country into some crisis or turmoil through greed, profit and to control the masses.
Bush has now decided that if we have any kind of disaster in any location, HE will be the decider, NOT the Constitution....in fact, he'll suspend it or get rid of it, through an Executive Order. Congress almost doesn't exist...where's the Dems? they're too busy monitoring the opinion polls for 2008!!
This country is in a mess, a crisis is right here before our eyes and most of you don't realize it. WAKEY WAKEY!!!!!!
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FordTruck5Speed
May 23, 2007, 9:38 a.m.Watson, you like all your liberal buddies have swallowed the bait. I am sick and tired of hearing how the USA is responsible for every problem in the world. I always hear the word "imperialism" thrown around when talking about the US. Does anyone even know what that means? What nation have we conquered and absorbed into the US? Don't even try to say Iraq, since they are governed by their recently ELECTED government, which would never have happened if it wasn't for the US.
Now, why is it always the "Christian Right" that is made out to be the fascists? Muslim terrorists that want to obliterate all Western civilization unless we all convert aren't the fascists, but the Christians that would prefer not to be killed by the Islamo-Fascists. Christians have been all but silenced publicly, and are just now starting to come out of their shell a little and recognize THEIR right to practice their religion.
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FordTruck5Speed
May 23, 2007, 9:45 a.m.Furthermore, when I hear people talking about capitalism running wild like it's a disease, I wonder what alternative is offered. Actually, I don't wonder. The answer is, of course, socialism or communism. In other words, "command economy". When in history have command economies ever worked? The great USSR, one of the biggest economic failures ever? A super power nation that can't even feed and house its own people? Compare the USSR of old to the new Russia. I can't say I agree with every policy of theirs, but their economy is thriving now because of that evil capitalism that allows the PEOPLE to have a stake in their work. They are now FREE to pursue their own interests. I know you liberals hate freedom and would love to simply run the world by force. You never think that what you believe is wrong, just that you haven't done enough of it yet. When are you going to realize that freedom is the solution to the human condition?
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FordTruck5Speed
May 23, 2007, 9:53 a.m.America has done more to help the world than any other country. We have eliminated tyrannical dictators and murderers all over the world. We have set a standard of living that is second to none, and is a great model for how the world should work. When people are free, they make their own lives and their surroundings better. That's why the dictators hate us. They don't want to give their people freedom, because it would take away their power. Is America perfect? No. No country is, because people aren't perfect. But there is no other country on Earth that can say that their POOREST citizens have running water and electricity, much less phones, TVs, cars, washing machines and computers. You hate it here? Go live in Syria or Iran for a while. You America-haters will be the first to have your heads cut off. I dare you to find a better place to live where you can spew this kind of venom about your society and government without having your throat cut.
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FordTruck5Speed
May 23, 2007, 10:14 a.m.Espe, your clever use of name-calling and obscenitiy has led me to a new respect for your pure genius. You have changed my ways. I will now be a believer in all that is Left-wing. I will make sure I vote for Hillary so we can receive Canada-Med. Those free prescriptions will come in handy when I have to wait a month for an MRI or some other routine procedure that can be done in a day here.
I also now believe that Christians are controlling the country like pawns on a chessboard, because I see that we have established a state religion. In fact, I heard Bush just appointed the Pope as head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. All others have been banned, haven't they? That evil president of ours had the audacity to select people that have some of the same beliefs as him. No liberal would ever do that.
Finally, I am willing to lay down my freedom for the good of the country. I am now subservient to the Left. Please tax me at 100% so I can give my fair share to the rest of you.
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FordTruck5Speed
May 23, 2007, 10:16 a.m.Wait, I forgot where I parked my Hyundai. Oh yeah, In my middle-class suburb.
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FordTruck5Speed
May 23, 2007, 11:12 a.m.Iraq has thanked us, but the mainstream media won't show that to you. Ask our soldiers.
I'll give you Iran and even N. Korea, but you can thank Jimmy Carter for them.
Again, I say, that since most of those that we consider to be in "poverty" have runnign water, electricity, phones, TVs and cars, yeah, we do have the highest standard of living in the world, and no, Hillary Care won't solve our health care problem. Ask Canada.
No, asking tough questions doesn't make you an America Hater. Blaming America for all the world's problems does.
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FordTruck5Speed
May 23, 2007, 11:19 a.m.mklkit-you see that bill because of all the legal hoops that hopitals have to jump through. Doctors have to pay insurance too, because if they make just ONE mistake, they are slapped with a malpractice suit. Sometimes that happens any time a patient dies, even without a mistake. Also, without going into every detail of the insurance industry, the bills are high because everyone is entitled to health care whether they pay for it or not. That's just supply and demand. In countries like Thailand (notice I didn't say Canada) where medicine is NOT free to ANYONE, prescriptions that cost in the hundreds of dollars here are about fifty bucks, including the doctor's visit. So, capitalism doesn't work in health care, eh?
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FordTruck5Speed
May 23, 2007, 12:15 p.m.crghss...I'm laughing now, because I couldn't have said it any better. Of course, we have to educate the socialists among us that the reason we all have it so "bad" is because we're free to engage in economic activity that people in most of the nations on the planet cannot due to real government oppression and command economies. What people don't get is that in a communist country, the rich are few but ridiculously wealthy, and the poor class is permanent. In the USA, there are still poor people, but they are never the same people (unless, of course, they are feeding from the government's welfare trough). People lose jobs, get hurt...whatever, and may move into the poor class temporarily, but with a little work and some human ingenuity, they can work themselves back out of it.
Communism = the fair distribution of poverty by force
Capitalism = the unfair distribution of prosperity by merit
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ElectricTalk
May 23, 2007, 12:24 p.m.WASHINGTON One out of four young U.S. Muslims believe suicide bombings against innocent civilians are OK to defend Islam, according to a new poll.
"The nationwide survey; one of the most exhaustive ever conducted of American Muslim attitudes; also found that only 40 percent of U.S. Muslims believe that Arabs carried out the Sept. 11 attacks, reports The New York Post. Another 28 percent said they don't believe it.
Thirteen percent said suicide bombings and other violence against civilians can be justified "in order to defend Islam from its enemies" at least on rare occasions. Among those under age 30, that 13 percent doubled to 26 percent, the paper reported."
Chris Hodges' new book is a piece of S*** !
Now, you tell me who the REAL threat is to America !!!
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Truzseeker
May 23, 2007, 1:01 p.m."Pat Robertson, a very loving person indeed..." I have a problem with this where he called for the assasination of Venezula's president.
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riffraf002
May 23, 2007, 1:39 p.m.The word Facisum is wrong for this goverment. It is still a capitalist Democracy. The working class and poor in this country have not started a struggle for power yet!
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MikeReardon
May 23, 2007, 2:58 p.m.Fascists are self serving gangster elite's that use any political or moral or ethnic issues to advance their deceptive road to power. These self serving gangster elite's end only interested in maintaining their fellow gangster elite's.
And world wide that can be any political movement or religious group. Every political ideology when seeking power has had fascists traits. Fascists gangs will kill or actively destroy their enemy and sellout old friends if it helps them gain or retain their elite's power. They always hide their true agenda inside sanctimonious positions then act as agents for there own political or religious or ethnic advancement.
World socialism based in self serving gangster elite's lost the world they held they should get over it the capitalist won this round. The article by populistamerica has seven paragraphs that advance there position that don't reach into the point of the subject title, what is added and inferred is the real message being put forward.
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not2needy
May 23, 2007, 3:21 p.m.Good Christians don't do the things the Bush administration has done, in fact i find it hard to beleive that any of them are even true believers. They use it to manipulate the weak minded. True Christians trust God to take care of their needs, not Bush!
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FordTruck5Speed
May 23, 2007, 3:31 p.m.Doer, what you don't understand is that you can make a poll say anything you want. I'm talking about direct commentary from our own soldiers about what is going on. I don't really trust polls on either side of the line.
Now I don't doubt that the Iraqis want us out, but not because we're evil imperialists that are there to take over their country. They are tired of war and terrorism, as they should be (especially after decades of Saddam). They would prefer to be completely self sufficient. But, many of those "polled" also said that they want us to finish the job of securing the country and curbing the terrorist attacks and not just leave them hanging. Seems like the Iraqis are the ones that have it figured out.
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