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Posted by: Wil 2 years, 6 months agoUS citizens who apply for a job will need prior approval from Department of Homeland Security under the terms immigration bill passed by the Senate this week. Even current employees will need to obtain eligibility approval from the DHS Within 60 days of the Immigration Reform Act of 2006 becoming law.
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Obaku
May 26, 2007, 5:30 p.m.Pure fascism, by any definition.
Mussolini defined fascism as being a right-wing collectivistic ideology in opposition to socialism, liberalism, democracy and individualism.
"1. a sense of overwhelming crisis beyond reach of traditional solutions; 2. belief one's group is the victim, justifying any action without legal or moral limits; 3. need for authority by a natural leader above the law, relying on the superiority of his instincts; 4. right of the chosen people to dominate others without legal or moral restraint; 5. fear of foreign `contamination.
Fascism is also typified by totalitarian attempts to impose state control over all aspects of life: political, social, cultural, and economic; in the examples given, by way of a strong, single-party government for enacting laws and a strong, sometimes brutal militia or police force for enforcing them
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Ecotec
May 26, 2007, 6:26 p.m.Who's to say that mistakes such as a the case of a Canadian citizen being detained and put on the no-fly list for unfounded suspicions wont be made in this case. Innocent people could be mixed up by officials or be refused the right to work on suspicions that are unfounded thus ruining someones life.
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protoham
May 26, 2007, 6:56 p.m.You know, we already have a law on the books that says you have to prove your legal status to be employed. And you have to give your employer your Social Security Number. Because it is a law, doesn't make it happen. Just ask the Gov of NJ, they have a law that says you have to have your seat belt on, well he didn't.
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NelsonR
May 26, 2007, 7:16 p.m.You know, why read any bill originating from D.C. and our elected power elitist representatives. From Pork to caving into others to stay in power. Who the hell represents you? The answer is stark and obvious, nobody. No bill passed by Congress benefits Americans except the few the attachments that are added to he new laws benefit.
Every incumbent MUST be voted out. A clean slate would be refresing. I say again, Vote out every Republican and Democrat that is now in power and who lies to you each and every day about conditions governing your life.
Can we do worse than what we now have?
Lobbyist and the corporate elite along with the so called advocates who proclaim their party, Democrat/Republican are looking for something for free on the backs of the average American taxpayer. Rid ourselves of these vermin for now or at least until corruption again takes over our government.
Extreme change is good for any governing body, even our forefathers thought so.
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disraeli
May 26, 2007, 7:32 p.m.Little by little the police state's tentacles are getting into every aspect of daily life.
The freedoms and liberties that were paid for by the blood of previous generations, then taken for granted by subsequent generations are now being quietly and meekly surrendered by this generation at the behest of a madman who has piggybacked his dictatorial desires onto the ever so convenient destuction of the world trade center.
The madness of King George redux, the first case saw the birth of the United States, if left to continue the second outbreak will see the end of the United States.
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amazed
May 26, 2007, 7:34 p.m.The fact that this atrocity of an immigration policy is bipartisan is unbelievable. I can see nothing good in it. At least with the Patriot Act they were PRETENDING to try to solve something and make the country more secure. This endorsement of the dry foot immigration policy is absolutely insane.
Nelson, once again, scary as this must be to you, I'm in agreement. Get rid of ALL the incumbents. And find the Presidential candidate who's furthest out of the loop.
It's our only hope.
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ewpaul53
May 26, 2007, 8:21 p.m.Unfortunately you reap what you sow. Rights are dependent on responsibility, and as men become less responsible they lose their rights. Americans have long viewed liberty as license and now it is payday.
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OldRusty
May 26, 2007, 8:27 p.m.Gosh I hope this all goes fourth as planned,All you little weak people will be under me. Ill just take from you what i want.
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flyonthewallzz
May 26, 2007, 9:16 p.m.I have lived in poor inner city neighborhoods.
The underground economy is critical to the survival of many.
Taxis would not come so people used "Hacks"
Speak-easy's still exist $1 will buy a cold beer.
There are stores that open packages and sell cookies for a penny.
Miss Anna would deliver a platter of the best food you can imagine. $3.00
If someone was tapped a trade was easy.
All of this activity is "illegal".
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flyonthewallzz
May 26, 2007, 9:21 p.m.When I was in Junior High School
I had a crush on the milkman's daughter
He owned the house next door
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gfarral
May 26, 2007, 11:25 p.m.We already ahve to file a form to prove we can legally work in the U.S. Is this really knew???
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jenorth
May 26, 2007, 11:33 p.m.Every Congressman and senator, that is aware of the immigration problems that currentlyas well as previously existed within this country has the obligation to fix the problem. Not create new ones.
The previous corrective action gave all illegals more rights than the average american citizen. These new rules expand on that, and make it even worse for all americans.
I think every member who votes yes on this new bill should be impeached by the american public for violating our own federal laws.
If Congressional members can legally break the law any time they want, then whaat's the point of having the laws in the first place ?
You can't write laws and change them to benefit one group of people just because you want too.
If they allow this massive illegal immigraation policy to continue, then it's only fair that open our borders to EVERYONE. What kind of example are they showing the world.
We let in millions of mexicans, but limit immigration to every other country in the world.
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jenorth
May 26, 2007, 11:45 p.m.Why don't we just annex mexico, and make it state number 51.
They cross our borders as often as they want too anyway.
We can't close the border unless someone pays for it. SO, all LEGAL americans are paying to build fences that don't exist, to keep out people that the government says we really need.
I suppose it's OK to allow in excess of 20 million illegals have our jobs over the past 10 years or more, just because WE don't want them. Hey, we don't want them for less than or for minimum wage.. How in god's name can you live on wages like that, especially when it's scooped up to pay your federal , state, medicaid, medicare, and or local taxes.
I'm sorry, I don't want to live in a house with 10 of my relatives so I can afford to eat, drive, and have a roof over my head.
I hate to tell you this, but machines can do most of the work that the illegals do on farms.
Why hire an american, when you can get 5 illegals to do the work in their place.
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Tcaros
May 27, 2007, 12:35 a.m.Here's a solution. We can let all the mexicans live in Texas. It's a bunch of tumble weed and boarded up towns anyways. That way they are in American earning money and can have a short trip home to see family. Also, they can keep the next former president happy with their music and lively nature.:)
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MiraJane
May 27, 2007, 2:03 a.m.love it.
what a bunch of bigots.
the largest group of illegal immigrants aren't from mexico.
go ahead, look it up. I dare you to.
the only reason you get away with those comments is because they speak spanish and have darker skin tones than the ones that *are* the largest group.
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truthiness
May 27, 2007, 4:37 a.m.the drivers license, birth certificate, etc are just form of identification to prove you are who you say your are.
this is a list of approved workers. this is the govt taking away your natural right to labor for your survival and calling it a privilege which they dole out at their disgression and benevolence. like nobility with serfs.
if this gets enacted we lose our freedom. if this gets enacted we lose the ability to control our destiny and surrender it to our government.
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if this gets enacted it is time for a revolt.
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Liberty or Death!
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truthiness
May 27, 2007, 4:43 a.m.reading the bill to see if atlas is right about it being bunk.
just found this amendment.
5/18/06 Senate Agreed to Session 2, roll call 131: On the Amendment
Inhofe Amdt. No. 4064; To amend title 4 United States Code, to declare English as the national language of the United States and to promote the patriotic integration of prospective US citizens.
be back
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truthiness
May 27, 2007, 5:33 a.m.(2) ATTESTATION OF EMPLOYEE-
`(A) REQUIREMENTS-
`(i) IN GENERAL- The individual shall attest, under penalty of perjury on the form prescribed by the Secretary, that the individual is a national of the United States, an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence, or an alien who is authorized under this Act or by the Secretary to be hired, or to be recruited or referred for a fee, in the United States.
`(ii) SIGNATURE FOR EXAMINATION- An attestation required by clause (i) may be manifested by a handwritten or electronic signature.
`(B) PENALTIES- An individual who falsely represents that the individual is eligible for employment in the United States in an attestation required by subparagraph (A) shall, for each such violation, be subject to a fine of not more than $5,000, a term of imprisonment not to exceed 3 years, or both.
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truthiness
May 27, 2007, 5:42 a.m.so it appears, sadly, that the story as posted, that the senat passed a bill vcreating a database of those permitted to work by the govt, is true.
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truthiness
May 27, 2007, 6 a.m.this short movie, made by Orson Wells, perfectly explains the philosophy behind my points on netscape.
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HMMace
May 27, 2007, 6 a.m.Of course it will still be OK to hire illehgals, right ?? Don't want to offend the mexican government..
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Sideways_28
May 27, 2007, 9:17 a.m.so when the time comes we all work illegally, that seems to be the way things go now, but then i wont have to worry about the taxman the taxman.
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EsaEngr
May 27, 2007, 10:18 a.m.There already is a system in place to verify a person's legal status to work here, but most employers do not use it! A few years ago I worked for a major hotel cahin, I had to provide to H.R. my License & S.S. card. She called Social Security (I presume) and an electronic respose provided my name & D.O.B. She simply had to look at my license to verirfy it. Took about 1 minute total.
EVRYONE MUST continue (or begin NOW) to write & call your congressman. It only takes a minute. Tell them your opinion and TELL them to vote NO on this piece of cr*p legislation!
The constitution should be amanded to remove the "anchor baby" clause! Only TRUE Emergency medical services should be provided on our dollar! Employers should go to jail & be closed down.
Do NOT hire an Illeagal yourself, no gardener, maid, nanny..etc! If you are called Racist, so what! I call you patriotic!
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