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Posted by: TechnologyExpert 2 years, 5 months agoThe Bush administration is poised to suspend a major post-9/11 security initiative to cope with increasingly angry complaints from Americans whose summer vacations are threatened by new passport rules.
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TechnologyExpert
June 8, 2007, 12:10 a.m.A proposal, expected to be announced Friday, will temporarily waive a requirement that U.S. citizens have passports to fly to and from Canada, Mexico, the Caribbean and Bermuda, provided the traveler can prove he or she has already applied for a passport, officials said Thursday.
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lovelytxwoman
June 8, 2007, 1:58 a.m.To bad people want the government to suspend something because they whined like a bratty child! I myself managed to get my passport 2yrs ago before going on a cruise to the Caribbean. And guess what it only takes a little bit time and money to keep America safe! We are just as responsible as the government doing what it takes,like getting a passport! Silly spoiled brats that's what I see everyday!
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aceofspades1
June 8, 2007, 10:06 a.m.if you think a passport is going to keep you safe - ask an illegal for theirs -- HAHAHA
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joeblowe
June 8, 2007, 11 a.m.This is totally asinine. FORCING U.S. citizens to have a passport to travel? And yet, 12 million invaders are here without even a bus ticket. And this damned federal ID is totally fascist. To the best of my knowledge, the federal government does NOT have the authority to issue a drivers license or any other form of ID -except- a passport. I'm with Aaron Russo on this one: REFUSE the federal ID ("May I see your papers, please?") Instruct your representatives to KILL this reprehensible form of enslavement. Trust me, it will NOT make you safer, and it has NOTHING whatsoever to do with national security. It's only for citizens, so it can only be to control the citizens. Criminals, invaders, and terrorists are NOT required to get one.
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goda2
June 8, 2007, 11:04 a.m.WHAT THE F*** Secret CIA Prison or non Secret CIA Prison!!! When you have enemies its your right to defend yourself...
What difference does it make? Countries have secret agencies else the NY Airport massacre would have happened...see the story where the plot was foiled due to intelligence. WE have to realize we are at WAR right now and in war everything is JUSTIFIED...coz its done to protect yourself!!!!
see the atrocities in action
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albionperfides
June 8, 2007, 11:04 a.m.You need a passport to travel in the rest of the world: what's the fuss?
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zembel
June 8, 2007, 11:31 a.m.How much longer will it take Western citizens to wake up to the fact that all those scary terror organisations such as Al Qaeda and Hezbollah are actually creations of their own governments, or to be more precise, Mossad, CIA, MI5 and alike. Their sole purpose is to scare ordinary citizens into blind support of their criminal governments, enabling them to dismantle civil rights and social services in the name of combatting terror and create excuses for brutal oppression of whoever is in the way of profit maximisation for their neo-fascist corporations. Sure, there might be many naive, true believers amongst ordinary members of those phony terror organizations, but the people in power, the likes of Saudi billionaire Osama Bin Laden, are actually part of the Orwellian elite.
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albionperfides
June 8, 2007, 12:33 p.m.Joeblowe
I presume you have been to have look? Or is it prejudice speaking?
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albionperfides
June 8, 2007, 2:54 p.m.Thank you joelowe, come to England, you'll like it but you'll need a passport1
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joeblowe
June 8, 2007, 3:29 p.m.Here is the proper way for this to work:
1) When leaving the U.S. - if you are HERE, you belong here.
2) When crossing the border on the way OUT, you are given a document - perhaps with a photo or fingerprint - that says you are entitled to come back IN.
3) When you come back in, your exit document is checked for authentication, THEN DESTROYED - with no further record being made.
This protects the ongoing privacy of individual citizens and also provides some level of security. Citizens having lost their exit document would be required to demonstrate that they are a citizen, then admitted. This would take longer and be a pain so people would tend to be careful with their exit document.
See, quick, easy, cheap.
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eviln3d
June 8, 2007, 3:39 p.m.I'm curious... I just got my passport a month ago... And never, not once did I ever get a receipt from the state department. I filled out the forms sent them in and got the passport back, but no receipt... not even anything in the mail when the passport came back just the stuff I sent plus the new passport....
So... how exactly is anyone supposed to show a state department receipt when as far as I know they don't exist? Or was this just another instance of an incompetent government agency that forgot to give me a receipt.
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albionperfides
June 8, 2007, 4:18 p.m.Joeblowe
What you are describing is a form of passport. Your problem is in looking at it from a US stand point. Imagine your Homeland Security looking at an exit document from, say, Uzbekistan. What then? Visas of course needed. Just get your passport and use it to visit non US "Dependencies". Find a country whose language your wife speaks and you may be pleasently surprised
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ckcats
June 8, 2007, 4:44 p.m.I simply don't understand why you all are so upset about needing a passport to travel outside the U.S. Canada and Mexico are the only countries U.S. citizens can travel to without one. They are simply now being added to the list. Quite frankly, we've known for about 1 1/2 years this was going to happen so no excuse to be surprised and upset now. And as for the travelers who are being exempt...it's crap. They knew just like everyone else. And a passport isn't about safe, it's about WHO'S traveling in and out of the country so if there is a terrorist problem....they'll know. Grow up...all of you who are whining. Oh, and by the way joeblowe....the U.S. is part of the rest of the world. We aren't on our own planet, we do participate in world affairs.
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ckcats
June 8, 2007, 4:46 p.m.Hey El Jefe.....it normally does take only a short time and money. Those that are cancelling knew the rules way before the enactment of the law. They deserve to stay home.
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aceofspades1
June 8, 2007, 6:06 p.m.here is how secure a passport is - you need an authentic birth certificate with a raised stamp when applying for a passport- In NYC you can get this from the dept of vital statistics which is aprt of the dept of health. You simply go to the office in person with some form of ID like a driver's license (it shows your date of birth) - give them an adress & in about 5 minutes you get a raised stamp birth certificate which is taken as ID when the driver's license you used to get it is not. Furthermore you can do this by mail but that takes 7-8 weeks but needs virtually no special ID. -- Passport secure? what a joke.
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amazed
June 8, 2007, 7:01 p.m.not only all that, you only need the passport to go to the islands, Mexico, Canada and Central America if you FLY. If you drive or go by sea, (private or cruise line) your birth certificate is still adequate. Which makes the whole deal even stupider.
My daughter applied for a passpart in the beginning of March and got it at the end of May -- with the wrong birthyear. We overnighted it back (she's leaving the end of June) and were biting our nails. We got the corrected one back by overnight mail two days later. We were amazed.
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ckcats
June 8, 2007, 9:18 p.m.Get it straight people....here are the rules
U.S. Citizen Passport Requirements
Air Travel
ALL persons, including U.S. citizens, traveling by air between the United States and Canada, Mexico, Central and South America, the Caribbean, and Bermuda will be required to present a valid passport to enter (or re-enter) the United States.
Cruise/Car Travel
As early as January 1, 2008, subject to U.S. Government amendment, ALL persons, including U.S. citizens, traveling between the United States and Canada, Mexico, Central and South America, the Caribbean, and Bermuda will be required to present a valid passport or other documents as determined by the Department of Homeland Security. And, as early as January 1, 2008, subject to U.S. Government amendment U.S. and Canadian citizens 15 or younger with their parents consent may cross the U.S. / Canadian border by land or sea with a certified copy of their birth certificate.
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innocent-bystander
June 21, 2007, 1:18 a.m.Money, clothes, sex, car, gas, vacation, American idol, education, national security, human rights and world peace. Now do we have our priorities straight?
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