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A series of Bible study guides were removed from the US Army's Fort Leavenworth web site late Monday following a report by Truthout that disclosed how the materials used by chaplains during Bible sessions for soldiers appeared to be anti-Semitic, and that disseminating it through a web site maintained by the federal government may have violated the

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jovial
June 14, 2007, 12:35 a.m.
Screenshots were taken of the website before it was taken down. This is a shocker!
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ETproductions
June 14, 2007, 1:57 a.m.
Hard to tell much from that screen shot, but it sounds like it is moving toward its day in court.
It would seem to me a clear violation of rules on Church and State to use a federally funded website to promote any religion, and most certainly a violation to promote one and denigrate another.
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elzorro2162
June 14, 2007, 8:59 a.m.
Truth be told, these questions that were posed in the bible study don't seem to be anti semitic, although they can be interpreted that way. It seems they are trying to compare current events with some Bible texts. Howver why I DO find shocking is that this BRAND of right wing evangelical christianity is promoted in the Army. The US Army chaplins are to be ECUMENICAL and INTERFAITH oriented, not pushing any specific doctrine regardless of their denominational background.
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Amazing1
June 14, 2007, 9:31 a.m.
Sounds like they are busy trying to bring to life that hymn, "Onward Christian Soldiers." If you can get people to buy into doing things because "God" ordained it, you can keep them loyal and willing to march into Hell.
The military seems to want brain-washed soldiers.
This is frightening.
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joe075050
June 14, 2007, 10:02 a.m.
Fanatacism is bad. No one thinks the crusades were a good idea. Christian soldiers. All for it.
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Bkumm
June 14, 2007, 10:17 a.m.
I love this comment from Weinstein:
"And not just any religion either, but the dominionist, evangelical, Fundamentalist, us-versus-them, my-God-is-... steel-fisted variety of Christian evangelism. There was a time, and not so long ago, when this nation worshiped a humbler God, but this invidious and cultish clan that is consuming our military believes they have a God-given right to rule the country, create a Christian nation, and eventually, a Christian empire."
Couldn't of said it better myself and it is why I will fight them at every turn.
Great story, jovial.
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crespi
June 14, 2007, 11:10 a.m.
Some posters been warning repeatedly about these types of Christians in power.
But now the Fundamentalist agenda is slowly being revealed.
But what about all the impressionable young minds they spewed into for the last 6 years? In the name of AMERICA? New recruits for Christian White Supremacy.
*@!# *@!#ing Fundamentalist Christians.
George Bush is a Fundamentalist Christian.
Notice any connections?
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Sandmn
June 14, 2007, 12:33 p.m.
It appears to me that the use of the phrase "anti-semitic" has been over played and misused by anyone with an opposing view to any opinion contrary to their own wants and beliefs. The word has been corrupted and changed to indicate a hatred of jews. This isn't the true meaning of the words, as it was originally intended. The second son of Noah, named Sem, started his own religious adventures, and those who opposed his view were classed as anti-semitics. It later included the ancient mediterranean based languages that died off. How does asking confrontational questions equate to anti-semitic? Or hatred of Jews? This accusation is all too common and lacks any real meaning other than to simply attempt to discredit. Freedom of religion is a fundemental right. With the advent of computers and the internet, how does one exclude certain sites for study from any government facility. Separation of church and state may be one good reason for the state of affairs in this country.
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Sandmn
June 14, 2007, 12:36 p.m.
All religions are theories, and theories should be studied freely. An opinion.
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tkyrchncs
June 14, 2007, 12:55 p.m.
This is really pretty mild stuff, guys. This is a case of someone looking to be offended. Not surprising that they find something. The military has Jewish chaplains. How is it none of them has found this material on a chaplains' site, which they use also, objectionable? This is alarmism from a watchdog group. Ever had a watchdog? They go off when there are sparrows in your yard.
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amerettoice
June 14, 2007, 1:53 p.m.
where is written that seperation of church and state is a LAW? in the constitution? in the bill of rights? where?
any comments?
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dunkirk
June 14, 2007, 2:59 p.m.
It appears the Christian Taliban is on the march. Its amazing they hate Iran so much. 1) Woman are subservient and can't be out without male chaperones 2) Abortion is illegal 3) ALL laws have to approved by the religious 4) ALL information has to be apoproved by the religious.
Heck thats fundie heaven.
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lvrofwolves
June 14, 2007, 6:26 p.m.
If there was anti-semetic teachings, and they've disappeared, good!!! if that disappearance is forever, GREAT!.
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Dionys
June 14, 2007, 10:45 p.m.
You would think it would be, considering that all the OT texts are Jewish texts. However evangelicals have no problem *interpreting* their texts with an anti-semitic tone.
That's what happens when you take something written 1800-2700 years ago, translate it into English from languages much more flexible and subtle, then try to apply things said out of their historical, cultural and societal context.
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Starbuck
June 15, 2007, 12:49 a.m.
-tkyrchncs-
Couldn't have said it better myself.
I've never had problems with Jews. The Israeli govt.(or just about any other govt.) on the other hand....
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master13keep
June 15, 2007, 2:32 a.m.
What people seem to forget is that chaplains are to be the spiritual counsel for their soldiers. The courts have already stated that they are to be true to the faith that they represent. The command chaplains study guides are there to assist chaplains that might not have the background to assist those of a certain belief. Presumibly there would be study guides for those of Jewish and Muslim faiths as well. Every guide must remain faithful to teachings of that faith. I read both study guides and found them to be theologically correct for christians and not anti-semitic. The reporter obviously had poor understanding of bible study methods to come to that conclussion and limited knowledge of Judicial cases to believe this violates the establishment clause.