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The Baptists, whose expertise in climatology has for too long gone unrecognized, also made a "call for more objective analysis in the data that would explain causes of the warming we're experiencing." That's rich -- implying that it's the scientists who come to their job with a bias.

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  • Avg rating: (+1/-0 1)RickyDawkins
    RickyDawkins
    June 14, 2007, 4:19 p.m.

    "It's as if man can't sin. The Southern Baptist Conference, perhaps the most powerful organization of fundamentalist protestants in America, has decided that the evidence humankind is responsible for global warming is just too thin."

    Southern Baptists approved a resolution on global warming Wednesday that questions the prevailing scientific belief that humans are largely to blame for the phenomenon and also warns that increased regulation of greenhouse gases will hurt the poor (emphasis mine).... The SBC resolution, approved near the end of the denomination's annual meeting, acknowledges a rise in global temperatures. But it rejects government-mandated limits on carbon-dioxide and other emissions as "very dangerous" because they might not make much difference and could lead to "major economic hardships" worldwide.

    http://scienceblogs.com/islandofdoubt/2007/06/s...

    • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)RickyDawkins
      RickyDawkins
      June 14, 2007, 4:29 p.m.

      "But it's the part about regulations hurting the poor that really gets me. I just don't understand where that kind of thinking comes from. Which part of the Bible discusses cap-and-trade schemes, emissions caps and carbon sequestration subsidies? Every respectable analysis of the effects of climate change (see the IPCC report on impacts for starters) singles out the poor as bearing the brunt of the effects of a warming world, not attempts to mitigate climate change."

      http://www.ipcc.ch/SPM13apr07.pdf

      http://scienceblogs.com/islandofdoubt/2007/06/s...

      • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)universal12
        universal12
        June 14, 2007, 4:50 p.m.

        God works in mysterious ways. He's got a plan my friends. People need to put more emphasis on God, maybe we can't do anything about it.

        • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Neophile
          Neophile
          June 14, 2007, 5:05 p.m.

          Well the southern baptists are the most qualified to deny global warming.

          Wait. No. Actually they're the least qualified. I always get that backwards.

          • Avg rating: (+3/-1 2)toph1973
            toph1973
            June 14, 2007, 5:33 p.m.

            Ricky, this article needs to be under Humor!

            I loved this little nugget in there.

            "The Baptists, whose expertise in climatology has for too long gone unrecognized, also made a "call for more objective analysis in the data that would explain causes of the warming we're experiencing.""

            LOL. I'd love to know where they get this expertise.

            • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Radiofreeeuropa
              Radiofreeeuropa
              June 14, 2007, 5:59 p.m.

              What a load of dung! Don't these folks know that their jesus horsies will need more water if it warms? Oh that's why God is melting the ice caps. Long Live James Randi!

              • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Radiofreeeuropa
                Radiofreeeuropa
                June 14, 2007, 6 p.m.

                We must pollute the planet so god can forgive us.

                • Avg rating: (+7/-1 6)Radiofreeeuropa
                  Radiofreeeuropa
                  June 14, 2007, 7:03 p.m.

                  LOL

                  Your right!

                  • Avg rating: (+2/-0 2)Radiofreeeuropa
                    Radiofreeeuropa
                    June 14, 2007, 7:04 p.m.

                    Amazing how these folks think science is biased.

                    • Avg rating: (+5/-25 -20)brettodactyl
                      brettodactyl
                      June 14, 2007, 7:15 p.m.

                      There are many people who don't believe that humans are responsible for the change in the earth's climate. I'm certainly skeptical. The scientists haven't proven beyond a doubt that we're responsible, and I'm glad that not everyone is a robot who follows certain scientists' beliefs without question. Let's explore some alternative views, folks (and, yes, I'm employing a bit of sarcasm for those who like to make fun of devout religious people. It's hard to translate sarcasm to text, lol).

                      • Avg rating: (+2/-1 1)hoppy
                        hoppy
                        June 14, 2007, 9:50 p.m.

                        eh,ahem,,,Has Al Gore read Gen.8:20-22 lately? I doubt it,it's not the thing a nut like Gore would believe anyway.

                        • Avg rating: (+3/-0 3)Helixbuilder
                          Helixbuilder
                          June 14, 2007, 11:01 p.m.

                          This is idiotic; it's like going to a car mechanic for brain surgery!

                          • Avg rating: (+2/-0 2)Radiofreeeuropa
                            Radiofreeeuropa
                            June 14, 2007, 11:12 p.m.

                            4 possible outcomes

                            1. Actions to are taken and it turns out scientists are wrong. Money is invested in green technologies that many industries will turn profits from. money is spent in r&D to develop said technologies. Even though there are returns to be had, some money is wasted.

                            2. No action taken and scientists are wrong. nothing much changes and no money is "wasted" fossil fuel companies and sponsors of terrorism continue to reap the windfall financial benefits they now enjoy.

                            3. No action taken, scientists are right. Life as we know it ends as crop failures become the norm. Seas rise and flood NY, London, Calcutta, etc. Your basic biblical plague.

                            definitely not good.

                            4. Action taken scientists are right alternate greener technologies are developed and the people developing them become the leaders in a new economic boom providing said technologies. Catastrophic crisis is averted.

                            • Avg rating: (+3/-14 -11)kedirian
                              kedirian
                              June 14, 2007, 11:46 p.m.

                              Every person that is born will sooner rather than later require housing....and thus, for every person born, MORE habitat for animals and plants will have to make way for this precious human!

                              Now that humans are getting smarter and smarter, conquer diseases, and live healthier, the total number of humans on this earth will NOT decline , rather it will GROW.

                              Add to this the Southern Baptists' and other Christians'(Including Roman-catholics') obsession with sex and their blind following of (God's?) "Go forth and procreate!", and it will be very clear that, indeed, human activities are contributing to Global warming.

                              Perhaps, the SBC's waning ardor re: Global warming lies in the realization that Christian dogma has contributed to this IMBALANCE in NATURE...and that homosexuality is, after all, nature's way to restore that balance!

                              • Avg rating: (+1/-0 1)liberals_belong_in_mental_institutions
                                liberals_belong_in_mental_institutions
                                June 15, 2007, 4:37 a.m.

                                This thread is utterly amazing.

                                5% God fearing people at least TRYING to live a sensible moral life.

                                95% degenerates who place themselves at the head of the table and deny God his rightful place, indeed deny He even exists; place evil for good and good for evil; believe computer models are any kind of authority let alone the final authority; call perverse sex normal; are too STUPID to realize that same sex couples cannot produce children therefore there MUST be something wrong with it (duh!)

                                By the way, if you don't believe in Jehovah God (Yahweh/Elohiym) then he has made you that way.

                                Some of you will cross paths with Him at the appointed time in your life and you will BELIEVE on his name (authority).

                                The rest of you will wake up in Hell when your life is over.

                                God will be glorified just as much by those souls wailing and burning in hell for eternity as he will be glorified by those sitting with him at his table. The souls he knew before the foundation of the world. His CHILDREN.

                                • Avg rating: (+4/-1 3)crespi
                                  crespi
                                  June 15, 2007, 10:08 a.m.

                                  First of all, Fundamentalist Christians regularly PRAY FOR THE END OF THE WORLD and for all TO SUFFER TRIBULATION.

                                  They WANT global warming to happen.

                                  Doesn't anyone here watch Christian television or listen to Christian radio?

                                  Fundamentalists work for Hell here on Earth so that their imaginary heaven will look more appealing.

                                  • Avg rating: (+3/-0 3)crespi
                                    crespi
                                    June 15, 2007, 10:08 a.m.

                                    The armageddonist quote, "you only really live after you die," is Orwellian double-speak at its finest.

                                    There is a REASON Neocon Christians have blocked every social and technological advancement. Remember "environmentalist is another name for Satanist?" One can find hundreds of examples of Christians trying to lock black Americans out of public schools, gays out of churches, and lately my favorite is Fundamentalist Christians actively blocking NASA scientists' vital climate information from the world.

                                    Not very "Christian" of them, eh?

                                    Fundamentalist Christians have one sick agenda and global destruction is their wet-dream.

                                    • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Amazing1
                                      Amazing1
                                      June 15, 2007, 10:19 a.m.

                                      Just where does the Southern baptist convention get off issuing any kind of pronouncement about global warming. I thought their area of expertise was supposed to be the bible, their god and how to live so you get into heaven. When did they start a science branch?

                                      They should stick to the saving of souls (HAH!) and let the scientists do the thinking about global warming. Their opinion is about as well founded as a Boy Scout memo regarding high fashion or the DAR handbook on Oragami.

                                      • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)vettenut
                                        vettenut
                                        June 15, 2007, 11:06 a.m.

                                        As is the case with many "Religion" articles here on Nutscape, this article, a thinly-disguised and snide swipe at Southern Baptists, has brought out the familiar anti-religious cleerleaders-- the "proud-to-... the supernatural-denying "experts" and the self-appointed, all-knowing and condescending spiritual DENIERS.

                                        Two points, too lengthy for just one submittal:

                                        First, if this article is truly humorous in its intent, then why did Mister Dawkins not post it as "humor"??????

                                        It's not because he was afraid that it wouldn't "fly" on the "Humor" post. (Come to think about it, maybe that was his reason....)

                                        No, it's because he couldn't miss the opportunity "have a little fun" here on Nutscape's "Religion Channel" at the expense of "Evangelicals" in general and the Southern Baptists in particular!

                                        Come on, RD, please say it isn't so!

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                                        • Avg rating: (+1/-0 1)cwebefree
                                          cwebefree
                                          June 15, 2007, 11:38 a.m.

                                          Warning warning this is a possible argument to be used with Noisy Christians and does not reflect religious fanaticsm by the author.

                                          Are we not, as the book states, appointed by God to be Stewards?

                                          So is it not a sin against god to Pollute and destroy this Earth, the sacred gift of God?

                                          If it is not for Science than who is to explain to good Christians that we are failing in our sacred duty to act as Stewards of this Earth?

                                          If ever I have had communication with "God", surely it must be that feeling in the marrow of my bones and in every waking hour the knowledge of the betrayal of our duty to protect and nurture the life of this planet.

                                          That if we allow this earth, by our own hands or initiative, to die before acts of God, are we not committing a sin most foul?

                                          • Avg rating: (+1/-0 1)quackpot
                                            quackpot
                                            June 15, 2007, 1:31 p.m.

                                            If God didn't want us to have CO2 he would have called it something else.

                                            Since we have this carbon stuff we should use it. It is God's gift.

                                            If it gets too warm for you, turn on your air conditioner, another one of God's gifts - sent here to be used.

                                            What, you think this stuff just evolved?

                                            • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)mitchel1
                                              mitchel1
                                              June 18, 2007, 4:12 p.m.

                                              I know some good has been done by Southern Baptists. But too often they seem to display the very worst of American religion. This is just another example.

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