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On a 5-4 decision, the Supreme Court ruled that a group of taxpayers did not have standing to sue the US government for its funding of faith-based initiatives with federal money.

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quackpot
June 25, 2007, 5:13 p.m.
Making Faith-based legal doesn't make it effective.
For the Executive branch (with consent from an effite Congress to continue pooring HUGE $$ into this demonstrated ineffective program is obscene.
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NelsonR
June 25, 2007, 8:33 p.m.
Its so nice to know that the conservatives like luvmyprez have a seat in heaven on the right side of god. It must be euphoric to know you are eternal and righteous.
Oh, those atheists and agnostics are so bad. :) :)
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Dave53
June 26, 2007, 2:56 a.m.
note that separation of church and state is a constructed doctrine out of the constitution that merely says that the government shall not establish a religion (ie. church of England type).
Now some would make any relationship between religion and the state illegal. Quite a stretch.
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Vehre
June 26, 2007, 9:43 a.m.
Things like the Freedom From Religion Foundation are why, however mad/disappointed I may be with W, I can never be a liberal or a Democrat.
Especially in the inner city, faith-based groups are highly effective ways to deliver services and assistance ot the underprivileged. Some may have records of dishonesty, but not great majority. Phoney,money-grubbing televangelists are not the kind of people I'm talking about, but the inner-city churches and mainistries.
The thing I'm not comfortable about is the ability of these groups to exclude others from working with them. It seems to me that if you take public money you should not then be able to turn people away either from working as volunteers or from receiving services because they are not part of your group. Not that private groups shouldn't be able to decide with whom to associate--that's a civil right the ACLU does NOT support--but that if they take money from society as a whole, they lose the right to be exclusive.
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gamahuche
June 26, 2007, 5:38 a.m.
Obviously!
What else WOULD the Freedom From Religion Foundation Inc do?
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SpazMat
June 26, 2007, 12:16 a.m.
Will they be able to advocate before the 2008 election anytime before 2011?
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david_nwpa
June 25, 2007, 2 p.m.
Little can be done to stem the tide of rulings coming from this conservative court. Over time, the court will shift further to the right. I am not opposed to faith based charities as long as people of ALL faiths are encouraged to participate and not just Christian organizations.
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mcarpentry
June 25, 2007, 2:42 p.m.
Great news, thanks Supreme Court. Great article TechnologyExpert.
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KingOfTruth
June 25, 2007, 3:01 p.m.
The White House program appears to have had a substantial impact.
Among the programs: Substance abuse treatment, housing for AIDS patients, community re-entry for inmates, housing for homeless veterans and emergency food assistance.
No wonder DemLibs and atheists are fighting the programs so vigorously......
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kylewaring07
June 25, 2007, 3:19 p.m.
Awesome news!
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Beeboppin71
June 25, 2007, 3:40 p.m.
One question, I'm not sure how this works, but will the public be allowed to view exactly how this money is being distributed? I'd like to know since it is my money they're spending.
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Goppy
June 25, 2007, 4:24 p.m.
Yay!!!
I'm so happy!!
Now goverment can supply funding to Scientologists in Clearwater Florida to set up drug rehab and personality test centers.
Theres lots a druggies in Clearwater - and lots o people who need a personality check!
But Ima worried about the local Mosque. They have been agitatin for federal fundin for a program they want to start. Its modeled after The 700 Club. Except they call it The 911 Club.
And o course, now it looks like they is gonna git that money.
I wisht the Supreme Court woulda been more explicit and said that Faith Baised Inititatives were only available for Southern Baptists. Cause weare the only ones with the power base to administer this type of thing.
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Bkumm
June 25, 2007, 5:20 p.m.
Conservatives crack me up. They don't seem to have any problem handing millions of dollars over to faith based organizations for 'outreach', but not one thin dime for prevention of some of the things that this outreach is needed for.
Hilarious.
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quackpot
June 25, 2007, 5:25 p.m.
I'm going to apply for an FAITH-BASED missile defense system!!!!
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MacR
June 25, 2007, 5:49 p.m.
If you have a problem with faith-based orgs applying for grants or the better way of saying it. Help from the goverment. Then do not deal with them. If they can prove that they do help out with whatever they are doing. Why is it so wrong to ask the gov for funds?
I mean really if everyone else can, why not a faith-based group? If they comply with the law and they do really help out with their causes. Then why are you so freakin upset? You would think that orgs that help people out would get a hand-out from the gov just like everyone else. I mean after all, all those people who help that org that also work at another job that does not have anything to do with that faith-based org, still pays taxes like everyone else. I think those people have the right to have that money put to something they think is more worth while than lets say.
A museum of Tea ware, or a bridge to no-where.
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lordlimbo
June 25, 2007, 6 p.m.
most orginizations including the red cross utilize up to 35% of funds donated to administration most are higher. I know of only 1 organiztion that is prohibited by its own laws not to use any money raised for charity for any other purpose then intended and thats the Fraternal Order of Eagles check it out. As for government money going to charitys its a good thing as more and more government services fall by the wayside and more and more people are being left out in the cold
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quackpot
June 25, 2007, 6:01 p.m.
This is GREAT - it now clears the way for....
FAITH-BASED ELECTIONS!!!!!!!!
WoW - no more of those pesky ballots to hide
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ningyo
June 25, 2007, 6:11 p.m.
im not a christian by any means but...id rather have them reading the bible in schools instead of the next 3 years of relentless propaganda from the goricle--this global warming hysteria is more like religion than a lot of today's easy breezy cafeteria christian doctrine
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lum-chate
June 25, 2007, 6:13 p.m.
I'm for the traditional religions as much as the next guy but feel that a country thats in debt up to their eyeballs to China has no business giving away millions to the Pat Robertson's of the world!
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toph1973
June 25, 2007, 6:24 p.m.
This is such BS. The supreme court is unconstitutional. With their naked power grab back in the day.They have completely misintrpreted and therefore violated the constitution many times. I say we have a traitor party right on the White house lawn. Hang all the supreme court justices, Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rummy, Rove, Abramoff. I'm sick of the traitors in the government these days.
My taxes being given to some BS faith based garbage. As if the church doesn't have enough money all ready. What heppened to the separation of church and state. More instances of religious people trying to force people to think like they do. Well you know what, Eff you.
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MonkeyBiz
June 25, 2007, 6:37 p.m.
Giving my tax dollars to churches goes against everything I ever learned about our country. Even the term "faith based" is a Christian term. There are religions that have no concept of "faith."
I find it really remarkable that the right wing is now shouting "hallayluuuyaaaa!" The same tax dollar funneled through a church (so they can get their cut) is worth celebrating, but if the government gives that dollar to a needy person, the right wing screams "socialism" or "communism" and raises hell about it.
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engineer
June 25, 2007, 6:41 p.m.
The US use to be a democracy. Now it's becoming an autocratic theocracy. Help us all!!