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A federal appeals court in Cincinnati has ordered that a lawsuit against President Bush's domestic spying program be dismissed.

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djrevelky
July 6, 2007, 2 p.m.
And I might add that the court is considered to be a left-leaning court. Too bad, so sad.
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uscons
July 6, 2007, 4:15 p.m.
How can the plaintiffs prove their phones have been tapped by the NSA, and thereby establish legal standing, unless the Court allows the billions of records that were alleged to have been illegally-acquired to be reviewed?
Absent that review, the Courts ruling appears to favor the continuation of the allegedly illegal program without the opportunity for redress.
Another mess made by George W. Bush and left for someone else to clean up.
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djrevelky
July 6, 2007, 4:33 p.m.
This is important news...can we get a moderator to put it on the front page or is it like...not anti-American enough?
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stephen-johnson
July 6, 2007, 4:37 p.m.
The ruling wasn't about the constitutionality of the law, just the validity of the ACLU lawsuit.
Good ruling. It's about time junk lawsuits get exposed as such.
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Formidable
July 6, 2007, 5:01 p.m.
It is refreshing to see a court that interprets the law and does not try to legislate from the bench.
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Tyron
July 6, 2007, 6:22 p.m.
As a conservative I am vary concerned about this program and its potential for misuse. Granted the president is given exceptional powers when there is a declaration of war, but there must be oversight not only by the judiciary but also by the congress. The executive branch alone should not be trusted with such power.
This program has many questions which must be addressed. The two main ones are: how long are records going to be kept on individuals if they are not involved in terrorism, and can these records be used to start criminal investigation that have nothing to do with terrorist activities?
This is the time for everyone to stop and think about the future. Do you want President Clinton to run wild with this program. Just as the dems. mistrust Bush; we mistrust Clinton.
The program should not be scraped but changed to allow others to view its day to day operations.
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johninkorea
July 6, 2007, 9:54 p.m.
so you can now do illegal and not criminal things. are these not the same words? if it is not legal to do something , isn't it a crime? what illegal things can CITIZENS do and not be called a criminal?
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cosmogenium
July 6, 2007, 11:28 p.m.
"The 2-1 ruling by the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals panel was not on the legality of the surveillance program. "
Do any of you people read? The article did NOT say the spying was legal or constitutional, only that the plaintiffs did not have "standing", which is legal jargon for saying they couldn't prove their case (because the gov't won't let them).
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cosmogenium
July 6, 2007, 11:34 p.m.
"The two judges in the majority, Julia Smith Gibbons and Batchelder, are Republican appointees, named by Bush and his father, respectively."
The well of justice has been poisoned by cronyism.
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TCmuench
July 7, 2007, 10:30 a.m.
Cosmo I dont think they do read.
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Harbeas
July 7, 2007, 10:44 a.m.
We put so much empasis on our freedom to do that we sometimes can't see the forest for the trees. We have people out there that are trying to destroy our way of life. If, by monitoring overseas calls, we might be able to prevent this from happening, where is the problem? If the wiretapping contains nothing and is then destroyed, where is the problem? I know, I know, the problem comes from the misuse of this information. We need to make sure that that doesn't happen.
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simonsez
July 7, 2007, 4:08 p.m.
Most people aren't clear about how this surveillance works.
It scans millions of transmissions for key words (most of which are in Arabic), much like google scans for internet pages. If it picks up a word, it hones in and records the call as to where it came from and where it is going. These calls are generally being made on stolen throw-away phones.
Obviously, there is no time for a judge to authorize. This is the state of the art as it exists today.
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simonsez
July 7, 2007, 4:20 p.m.
Our criminal and justice systems have always been about prosecuting crime ... since 9/11, we've had to convert our thinking to preventing crime, at least in the realm of terrorism.
Preventing crime is more difficult than just prosecuting it.