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Posted By Amazing1 1 year, 12 months ago in Science & TechnologyWhile searching for a cancer cure, this man has discovered that he can "burn" saltwater.
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texangelwings1 year, 12 months ago
Excellent! Fantastic find, thanks Amazing1!
This would be wonderful if the cure for cancer and solve some of our energy problems could be that close to being solved!
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Amazing11 year, 12 months ago
I just hope that this invention can be brought to market in some way that is truly useful before big oil gets their hands on it.
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BronxBomber1 year, 12 months ago
It is amazing! John Kanzius is the Nick Tesla of today! Salt water! I can imagine that the oil industry should perk up, and take notice! If not they are stupid not too. Great post Amazing1! Thanks!
I hope this can treat, and obliterate cancer cells so that the disease is just a thing of the past. I've seen the illness take away a lot of my friends.
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slate1 year, 12 months ago
BB the oil companies would survive just about everthing else we use is petroleum based. It would be nice to cut a few spokes out of the petroleum wheel and reduce pollution for energy needs.
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Searchbeam1 year, 12 months ago
Amazing1,
This is truly amazing!
In this energy equation, it will be interesting to see the amount of net gain, which will make it practical and usable.
energy out - energy in = net gain
I hope this IS the Holy Grail of energy!
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Natureboy1 year, 12 months ago
"All we have to do is discover what is is that we need."
And realize that what we need is a helluva lot less that what we want, and are told to want.
Do we really need I-Phones? Really?
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Natureboy1 year, 12 months ago
Hypothesis #1 - the amount of energy used to generate the radio waves is significantly less than the energy released when the hydrogen and oxygen recombine. A corollary would be that the second law of thermodynamics no longer applies, the field of physics will be turned upside down.
Hypothesis #2 - the amount of energy used to generate the radio waves is is greater than the energy released when the hydrogen and oxygen combine. This would make the burning of saltwater fairly useless as a panacea for an energy shortage, but would be consistent with everything generally observed in the natural world. The second law of thermodynamics would still hold.
Anyone taking bets on which will turn out to be the case?
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Searchbeam1 year, 12 months ago
Quantum Physics is perhaps the only thing that can shed light on this issue.
When atomic bonds are broken tremendous amount of energy is released, like in the fission reaction in an atom bomb.
Also, when electrons jump from one orbit to a lower one, substantial energy is released.
Conventional physics does not answer these questions, and the Second Law of Thermodynamics cannot answer it, either.
If it it turns out to be a quantum leap, that would explain a lot.
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Searchbeam1 year, 12 months ago
mamasan,
You are right. That is one possible source to generate radio waves.
Depending upon the amount of energy needed to excite the saltwater molecules, it could be very low, like in a typical cell phone or it could be much higher.[Essentially, radio waves are created by an oscillating circuit. There are two factors to a radio wave: amplitude and frequency. (Amplitude modulated waves are used in an AM radio, and Frequency modulated waves are used in an FM radio.) Typically,shorter wavelength and higher frequency translates to higher energy.]
Energy levels higher than that will probably need a more complex circuit. Typically you use more energy to create radio waves than the energy of the resulting radio waves.
Alternatively, it could be a tiny generator running on ethanol that would provide the required energy to excite the saltwater molecules.
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awlhlm1 year, 12 months ago
Presence of the salt water in the near field of the radio antenna will alter its impedance, drawing more current and more power from the power supply. The high electric field in the water sample causes the hydrogen and oxygen to disassociate and free hydrogen and oxygen gas are produced. Any source of ignition will cause those gases to recombine with production of heat at the surface of the water, forming water again.
The net process is endothermic; that is, it consumes energy. This whole thing is nonsense and shows who was paying attention in science class.
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Searchbeam1 year, 12 months ago
awlhlm,
Your analysis is accurate when we use Classical Physics and Chemistry.
However, Quantum Physics puts the Classical Physics and Chemistry on their ears! Most of the quantum phenomenon cannot be explained in terms of classical science.
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slate1 year, 12 months ago
Wow! A three for one alternative, cure cancer, alternate fuel and desalination of sea water! This could be one of the biggest finds in history!
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TonyByron1 year, 12 months ago
OOh, OOh! Scientific breakthrough! RF radiation can break the bond between hydrogen and oxygen in water! (if it is made conductive) And then, wait for it, you can set the resultant Hydrogen and Oxygen on fire!
But wait, there's more! This flame can produce mechanical energy when applied to a Sterling heat engine! The same engine that can run from the heat of a cup of hot coffee.!
http://jlnlabs.imars.com/html/stirling.htm
Imagine using your 1000 watt microwave oven to heat a cup of simple saltwater to power a Sterling engine that turns! You can even put a small fan on it to dissipate the heat that the microwave oven produces!
Truly a discovery for the ages!
With your financial help to help me secure the necessary patents to produce this amazing technology, we all can soon have abundant energy from the sea, the cradle of life.
If I could afford to patent this technology on my own I would. Unfortunately several large energy companies are fighting me.
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spock11 year, 12 months ago
Can someone explain these 'quantum' theories to me? From the reports I've read on the flame, it burns at 1500 or 1700 degrees C. A hydrogen flame burns at ~2300C.
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Searchbeam1 year, 12 months ago
spock1,
I don't know if I am qualified to teach, but I will try.
Quantum Physics is one of the hardest things to comprehend, because it does not fit into the mold of knowledge we acquire in our conventional learning. Classical, or Newtonian physics deals with visible, measurable world. Quantum physics deals with phenomenon related to the smallest particles like atoms, electrons, neutrons, positrons and some of the particles that have never been seen - like neutrinos.
If you look at an atom, it resembles a solar system. There is the nucleus, and then there are electrons spinning around the nucleus. These electrons move in orbits and there are up to seven concentric orbits. First orbit is the closest to the nucleus and has a maximum of 2 electrons. The next orbit has 8, the next has 18, the next has 32, the next has 18 and the last one has up to eight electrons.
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Searchbeam1 year, 12 months ago
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Left to themselves, these electrons keep on spinning in their orbit in their jolly, merry way.
When something like an electric charge causes them to get excited, they can jump from a higher orbit to a lower orbit. When this happens, it is called a quantum leap and it releases a lot of energy. These electrons also have a habit of knocking off other electrons from their orbits. Because of the very large number of atoms in a small size of an element, such phenomenon gets multiplied over and over, creating tremendous bursts of energy. Sometimes this process continues on and on and on, creating what is called a chain-reaction. An example is an atom bomb.
The rules of Classical Physics generally do not apply at these atomic levels, because the masses involved are extremely small, and the relative amount of energy is very high. Electromagnetic fields play a much larger role in this world of atoms.
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cuke1 year, 2 months ago
This process has been known for a while. Beaming an RF signal of the right frequency, in this case 13.561 MHz (The Nuclear Magnetic Resonance of oxygen), into water causes excitation of the oxygen atom and disassociation of the water molicule. In pure water the H and O atoms will recombine. The positivly charged Na ions in salt water will repell the H atoms and attract the O atoms seperating them far enough to prevent recombination. Groups of O atoms collecting around the Na ion will combine to form O2 and free H will combine to form H2. The only thing remarkable here is that someone actually took a match to the test tube. Kanzius has never claimed this process was at or above unity. A close examination of the process shows that more energy is required to seperate the water molicule than can be recovered from the burning of the gasses. A remarkable use of an existing technology, but no free energy.
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