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This overview is in development. If you use the search function with key words, you will discover that 911Truth.org is home to articles backing virtually every point made below. Much of the basic research is available at the Complete 9/11 Timeline (hosted by cooperativeresearch.org), the 9/11 Reading Room (911readingroom.org), and the Spitzer petit

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  • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)engineer
    engineer
    July 8, 2007, 8:53 p.m.

    This link gives the biggest arguments for disbelieving the government 9/11 story

    • Avg rating: (+9/-2 7)entropy
      entropy
      July 8, 2007, 9:22 p.m.

      I've often used this web site to direct people to further research into the questions about 9/11. It's an excellent compilation of information.

      • Avg rating: (+10/-2 8)torrent29
        torrent29
        July 9, 2007, 8:19 a.m.

        It did. Some people just believe someone who puts scary music on a poorly crafted mockumentary and embrace it as the truth.

        • Avg rating: (+4/-5 -1)texangelwings
          texangelwings
          July 8, 2007, 10:01 p.m.

          The truth will eventually be known by all! The truth always surfaces, sooner or later!

          Thanks engineer!

          • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)koavf
            koavf
            July 8, 2007, 10:19 p.m.

            Here is some 9/11 truth:

            http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u...

            http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/911truth.html

            • Avg rating: (+9/-1 8)ETproductions
              ETproductions
              July 8, 2007, 11:29 p.m.

              It is so very sad that we now live in an America where such thoughts can not reasonably be dismissed as crazy hysteria.

              I want to see this investigated by a independent, credible authority that is not committed to sweeping any inconvenient truths under the rug.

              • Avg rating: (+7/-2 5)AmericanIdiot
                AmericanIdiot
                July 8, 2007, 11:42 p.m.

                Norm Minetta is just about ripe. As the GOP falls into civil war, he may find his cojones and spill the beans.

                • Avg rating: (+2/-0 2)wallyone
                  wallyone
                  July 9, 2007, 2:13 a.m.

                  there are too many flag waving americans that confuse patriotism with blind patriotism at all cost.. when they shout down or ridicule those with questions that need to be answered about the attacks of 911 they are doing a disservice to america not protecting it .. when are these people going to wake up to the fact they have been lied to over and over again.. it is long past time the guilty should pay.. i can't wait for judgement day..

                  • Avg rating: (+3/-0 3)jakob-z0
                    jakob-z0
                    July 9, 2007, 9:40 a.m.

                    Torrent29. Think you need to have that Bush corporate microchip taken out of your head. Go see a doctor and have it removed. Until then, I don't think you'll be able to know the difference between fact and fiction or right and wrong.

                    • Avg rating: (+8/-2 6)Aurinkohirvi
                      Aurinkohirvi
                      July 9, 2007, 2:18 p.m.

                      Did you post a wrong url? There's nothing about the highjackers in here, dead or alive.

                      • Avg rating: (+13/-1 12)engineer
                        engineer
                        July 9, 2007, 10:29 a.m.

                        iwant5000dollars

                        I looked at all the videos. The wings on a 757 would have been spread in large sections as well as small chunks. The engine which is used by 757's is 6' in diameter, 12' long and weighs 9 tons. The engine in the picture does not show this. Where is the fuselage? Where is the tail section? They did not all disintegrate! Buildings do not fall at the natural acceleration of gravity without help at every level as there would be resistance at each drop. There was no toppling since when things are hit they do not necessarily fall straight down. The only way for an exact straight drop is through demolition.

                        I wait for your reply

                        • Avg rating: (+1/-0 1)engineer
                          engineer
                          July 9, 2007, 10:40 a.m.

                          1want5000dollars

                          I'm finished with you. Be blind! Stay with your head in the sand. I DO NOT LIE!! I carefully analyze and then come to conclusions.

                          • Avg rating: (+5/-0 5)engineer
                            engineer
                            July 9, 2007, 10:51 a.m.

                            http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/5162258.stm

                            Here is just one example of 500 mph plane crash. There are others!

                            • Avg rating: (+12/-1 11)joeblowe
                              joeblowe
                              July 9, 2007, 5:07 p.m.

                              No - straw doesn't go through light poles in a hurricane. Not METAL ones.

                              • Avg rating: (+3/-1 2)xlegultx
                                xlegultx
                                July 9, 2007, 5:59 p.m.

                                Either I'm an idiot or you don't know your physics. Acceleration is not the same as velocity. There is no such thing as anything accelerating at X mph. The idea of a passenger plane accelerating at 400-500 (m)/(h^2) would be amazing.

                                There is no way straws can go through a common light pole in a hurricane. The only way that is possible for a straw to punch holes in a light pole during a hurricane is if you ignored density, and any opposing forces.

                                You also cannot calculate all those floors together simply as 4500 tons x 10. The amount of force is still great.

                                Not that I agree that 9/11 was an inside job.

                                • Avg rating: (+2/-0 2)ballbuster2
                                  ballbuster2
                                  July 9, 2007, 12:29 p.m.

                                  someone stated there should be an independent investigation into 911 and that person may be correct. but, first you have to find that someone that wants the REAL TRUTH and i do not believe that's possible in today's america, due to all the greed! as always in the past, allow 30-60 year's and the truth will start trickleing out, because IF there was a cover up all the responsible A**holes will be dead and no one will care. (discovered from past experiences)

                                  • Avg rating: (+13/-0 13)Antitax
                                    Antitax
                                    July 9, 2007, 12:43 p.m.

                                    Haven't read it, but did they find Elvis or the truth about the grassy knoll??

                                    • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Antitax
                                      Antitax
                                      July 9, 2007, 12:54 p.m.

                                      I knew he would show up sooner or later. I did not know he was a pilot, but that explains everything. Thank you. What else did the dunderheads find, Amelia or the Bermuda Triangle??

                                      • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Emper0r
                                        Emper0r
                                        July 9, 2007, 1:01 p.m.

                                        Eek! This torrent29 kid sure is ignorant! Look guys, he tries to say the truth movement ignores facts, yet he ignores ALL evidence that is NOT disputed that refute the official story.

                                        Look at his comment here:

                                        "As for each level falling, again you are wrong, the building collapsed naturally, each floor was designed to sustain the weight of the floor above it."

                                        Yet, he provides no evidence to support this argument. If he's citing the NIST report, they wrote down what they thought was most PROBABLE! They had no definitive evidence that explosive charges didn't bring down the towers because it could very probably be the cause.

                                        torrent29 is the kind of child who believes everything he hears on the news. He believes nothing has substance and everything on the surface is exactly the way it seems. Basically, this kid has never read a history book or done any independent research. It's depressing really that this kind of ignorance still exists in the world.

                                        • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Emper0r
                                          Emper0r
                                          July 9, 2007, 1:12 p.m.

                                          Also, just thought I'd point this out.. I've been fairly regular at Netscape for a while now and the only time I see this torrent29 child post is when there's a story posted about 9/11. Apparently he's lurking the site, hitting refresh just waiting for that 9/11 story to show up so he can make himself feel great by making fun of the 9/11 truth movement by replacing the word "truth" with "twoof" (wow, good one kid!)

                                          Maybe if he spent less time lurking this site waiting for his next big chance to show he ignores all facts except those that support his point of view and more time doing independent research he might gain a more balanced/logical point of view. We can only hope..

                                          • Avg rating: (+5/-0 5)Emper0r
                                            Emper0r
                                            July 9, 2007, 1:45 p.m.

                                            Actually, people with half a brain will realize that the EVIDENCE is overwhelming that the towers and WTC 7 were brought down by controlled demolition. See, it doesn't matter what you want to believe, what matters is the evidence. Apparently, you're the kind of guy who goes with his gut, rather than examining both sides of the argument. Wait a second, is that torrent23 under a different name? ;)

                                            Professor Steven Jones found evidence of Thermate from the two towers: http://www.ae911truth.org/twintowers.php

                                            Steven Jones, PhD physicist discovers previously molten iron spheres in the WTC dust which blanketed lower Manhattan. Sizes are up to 1/16" diameter. The findings are corroborated by EPA but not explained. Molten iron is the byproduct of Thermite. It contains the chemical signature of thermate.

                                            • Avg rating: (+12/-3 9)cloud15
                                              cloud15
                                              July 9, 2007, 1:37 p.m.

                                              "Did the Shanksville crash occur at 10:06 (according to a seismic report) or 10:03 (according to the 9/11 Commission)? Does the Commission wish to hide what happened in the last three minutes of the flight, and if so, why? Was Flight 93 shot down, as indicated by the scattering of debris over a trail of several miles?"

                                              Easily explained....

                                              Seismic waves take time to travel, this is how they detemine the point of an earthquake. You measure the time between initial tremors and then the aftershock. Seismic waves are NOT instant. Depending on where the waves were recieved it could have easily been a three minute difference. Hence the 3 minute delay in the seismic time.

                                              Stop looking for minute reasons why this was a government conspiracy. If it were a government conspiracy as you all seem to want it to be, there would not be so many questions.

                                              • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Emper0r
                                                Emper0r
                                                July 9, 2007, 1:47 p.m.

                                                Wow, anyone else notice "iwant5000" uses "they think" and "I think" arguments a lot? What a terrible way to debate! It doesn't matter what people think, examine the evidence!

                                                If you keep an open mind and be honest with yourself and examine ALL evidence on 9/11 and you still believe the official story is pristine and 100% accurate then I will order you a straight jacket.

                                                • Avg rating: (+10/-1 9)stoutkraut
                                                  stoutkraut
                                                  July 9, 2007, 1:43 p.m.

                                                  I see why engineer is unemployed during the Bush economic recovery (4.5% unemployment). If he is as loosey at other analyse as he is with the Russian airliner I wouldn't want him working on any engineering project. He has no knowledge of landing an aircraft, a jet would be maybe 165 knots on approach, it flares out with full flaps and after it is on the runway it reverses thrusters. I've seen a movie of an F4 Phantom jet hiting a reinforced concrete (nuclear reactor shell) at 500 mph...it vaporized...nothing left, nada, wings, engines, wheels, landing gear, nada, nothing.

                                                  These wacko's look for any cause...Global Warming, shooter on the knoll, inside job 9/11. They don't have lives, they live on the one eyed tube that links their crackpot theories around the world. God, get a real life.

                                                  • Avg rating: (+7/-0 7)joeblowe
                                                    joeblowe
                                                    July 9, 2007, 1:49 p.m.

                                                    There is SOME kind of non-conspiracy explanation for every doubtful question that comes up....EXCEPT: If it is TRUE that several officials got phone calls advising them NOT to fly on 9/11, how can you POSSIBLY explain that away other than foreknowledge. Has anyone demonstrated that the reports of those calls are ALL false? Everything else aside, really, if even ONE of those calls were made, it is conclusive: someone, or several someones, fairly high up in the government knew this was about to happen and did nothing. Except WARN a couple of people. And to hell with everyone else.

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