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Bill Moyers talks with former Congressman Mickey Edwards and ACLU Executive Director Anthony Romero about revisions to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

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spkguy
Sept. 11, 2007, 3:33 a.m.
REP. HANK JOHNSON (D-GA): Well let me ask you this question: if there was an American soldier in Iraq that sent an email to his girlfriend here in the United States then under this new FISA act that communication can be monitored because it concerns a person who is outside the United States, is that correct?
BOB BARR: That is correct.
JOHNSON: And there is no need for a warrant.
BARR: That is correct.
JOHNSON: No judicial oversight is called for.
BARR: Correct.
JOHNSON: And that can be for a student who may be over in England somewhere and communicates back with a phone call to their parents, that phone call can be monitored.
BARR: That is correct.
JOHNSON: A doctor who is traveling overseas may call a patient who is here in the United States and that phone call can be monitored.
BARR: That is correct.
JOHNSON: that email correspondence can be monitored.
BARR: That is correct.
mmmmmmmmmm...
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spkguy
Sept. 11, 2007, 3:36 a.m.
What exactly does a real conservative stand for?
Mickey Edwards served as a Republican congressman from Oklahoma for 16 years where he was a senior member of the House Republican leadership. A founding trustee of the Heritage Foundation, he teaches now at Princeton's Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs and is on the board of the Constitution Project, a non-partisan group whose purpose is to defend the Constitution. His book RECLAIMING CONSERVATISM will be out next March.
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Radiofreeeuropa
Sept. 11, 2007, 4:59 a.m.
Thanks for posting this excellent discussion. I have always believed that the neocon agenda (from Reagan through Bush) should enrage the conservative as much as the progressive for the very reasons pointed out here.
The Bush defenders claim they are conservative but are clueless as to what conservatism actually is. Bush used the
republicans the same way Hitler used the workers party. As a vehicle to get to a position of autocracy. This is just what I needed to see today. well done.
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ETproductions
Sept. 11, 2007, 11:12 a.m.
For the Right Wingers reading this, let me paint a picture that may help you understand why this new presidential power is so chilling. If allowed, it will survive George Bush. Suppose Hillary Clinton wins the White House in 2008 and the new President Clinton decides to use all the warrant-less surveillances powers to compile a database of all American Citizens who favor right-wing causes. She then has these people declared Illegal Enemy Combatants and arrested. Habeas Corpus is suspended for them, because they have been declared by the next Great Decider as Illegal Enemy Combatants. They just disappear off the streets, never to be heard from again. It gets a lot easier to win the next election when you can just permanently jail and torture your opposition.
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not2needy
Sept. 11, 2007, 1:11 p.m.
Seems this is a case of cutting your nose off to spite your face because it's eventually going to blow up in their faces.
As ET so eloquently put it, if this power survives from president to president, just think of the damage it will do down the road.
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Amazing1
Sept. 11, 2007, 7:11 p.m.
The idea that this power can survive from president to president is one of the most compelling reasons to IMPEACH the SOB currently in office.
Lordy, don't these people in Congress GET IT?
Don't they understand the Constitution, their oath of office or even common sense?
AAAGGGHH!