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The case for Giuliani's moderation rests mainly on three overblown issues -- guns, gay rights and abortion -- and even in those cases, his deviation from conservative orthodoxy is far milder than is usually suggested. If you've managed to keep liking President Bush, you'd have no trouble loving President Giuliani.

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  • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)berkeley
    berkeley
    Oct. 28, 2007, 2:29 a.m.

    so who is behind rudy, lurking in the shadows?

    could it be "them"?

    • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)GrainOfSand
      GrainOfSand
      Oct. 28, 2007, 11:07 a.m.

      Pay no attention to the fear-mongering and lying coward behind the curtain.

      I mean, his kids don't even like him! Why should we?

      • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)1basque1
        1basque1
        Oct. 28, 2007, 11:13 a.m.

        LETS NOT GET FOOLED AGAIN... ya think!!!

        • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Shadowolf
          Shadowolf
          Oct. 28, 2007, 11:49 a.m.

          Let Rudy hang himself...

          • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)crespi
            crespi
            Oct. 28, 2007, 11:55 a.m.

            Anyone in a hurry for America to nuke someone is bad.

            • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Searchbeam
              Searchbeam
              Oct. 28, 2007, 12:22 p.m.

              Snowflake Rudy is creature of convenience and fakery.

              The guy just tells lies and then spends a lot of time defending them.

              Ask any Fireman in New York City, and he will tell you what he really thinks of him.

              He will steal anybody's credit if it helps him!

              Here is a very interesting point: He constantly reminds us of his "bravery and leadership" in the post 9/11 period in NYC. He was appointed to the 9/11 Commission, BUT NEVER ATTENDED A SINGLE MEETING, AND WENT AWOL FROM DAY 1. The Commission had to warn him that he will lose his membership, and even then he was hiding, making millions on his "Consulting business on Terrorism Security" in cohouts with Bernie Keric, the ex-New York Police Commissioner who is target of criminal investigation for his dirty deeds!

              Snowflake Rudy has about as much substance as a snowflake in Summer.

              The guy is a phony!

              Go ahead and nominate him, if you want another disaster in the White House!

              • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Spadecaller
                Spadecaller
                Oct. 28, 2007, 12:44 p.m.

                The perception that Giuliani is a liberal Republican is also indicative of our times. After seven years of an extreme right wing government, any candidate that

                supports restrictions on guns, gay rights, and is pro-choice would appear liberal.

                But don't forget the exaggeration of these same issues is the neoconservative's election strategy; fan the flames of discord over religious and social issues in order to split the anti-war and pro-universal health advocates from voting against the Republican ticket.

                "I support marriage between a man and a woman!"

                God help us if those kind of inane platforms effectively polarize Americans again and deter our nation from addressing the most urgent issues.

                Appealing to the prejudices and differences of the electorate only serves the power-hungry politicians; in essence it reflects a government that cares nothing about the state of the union.

                • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)deathray
                  deathray
                  Oct. 28, 2007, 2:05 p.m.

                  No one is conceding anything; what would explain your belief that anyone is conceding anything?

                  Senile dementia, maybe?

                  • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Spadecaller
                    Spadecaller
                    Oct. 28, 2007, 2:11 p.m.

                    The saviour de demain (tomorrow's savior) for the grand finale ... Melvin Bush!

                    • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Spadecaller
                      Spadecaller
                      Oct. 28, 2007, 2:33 p.m.

                      For those not familiar "Brother Martin":

                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh8hErn2UZU

                      Quite an effort to defend the ovewhelming "coincidences"; would'nt you say? Jeb Bush, the governor of the state, that "gave" George the Presidential election: just another one of those coincidences. Friends with the bin Ladens ... just another one of those coincidences.

                      (Someone's peeing on your leg and and trying to convince you that it's raining.)

                      Dick Cheney, former Chief Officer of Haliburton, the biggest contractor in Iraq given 3 monstrous contracts that have ripped off Taxpayers to the tune of 2.7 billion.

                      There's a long list of coincidences.

                      • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Spadecaller
                        Spadecaller
                        Oct. 28, 2007, 2:45 p.m.

                        (Brother Melvin) sorry about that. Indeed sorry.

                        • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)stephen-johnson
                          stephen-johnson
                          Oct. 28, 2007, 3:31 p.m.

                          If Rudy wins the Republican nomination, all of the "Rudy is a liberal" talk from his social conservative critics will get drowned out by the Democrats painting him as an ultra right winger.

                          • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Spadecaller
                            Spadecaller
                            Oct. 28, 2007, 3:38 p.m.

                            Maybe they'll borrow the family values agenda.

                            • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)pongping
                              pongping
                              Oct. 28, 2007, 3:54 p.m.

                              Rudy = Hillary = Worthless Congress = More of the same.

                              • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)simonsez
                                simonsez
                                Oct. 28, 2007, 4:18 p.m.

                                There was also an article on Jim Webb of Virginia in the Washington Post.

                                I like this guy, even though he's a Democrat and I think he is going to be a player in Presidential politics, if not soon, then later.

                                He reminds me of Sam Nunn, whom I consider to be a Statesman; a man who put America ahead of politics.

                                • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)texangelwings
                                  texangelwings
                                  Oct. 28, 2007, 6:51 p.m.

                                  The US needs someone who is not in the click!

                                  Rudy needs to stay in local politics.

                                  "Ruby a Lefty?", only Rudy knows for sure!

                                  Thanks DR, for the headsup on this posting!

                                  Thanks Beau, enjoyed reading the article!

                                  • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)scott4261
                                    scott4261
                                    Oct. 28, 2007, 6:59 p.m.

                                    Rudy Giuliani's an authoritarian warhawk determined to continue Bush's failed foreign policy...not to mention the continued "Big Brother" surveillance of American citizens.

                                    This will be his undoing and the undoing of the Republican Party as well. Most Americans are waking up to the reality that this war is a mistake. The intrusion on our privacy bothers more than those who think you've "got nothing to hide" will ever acknowledge. The religious nuts among us DO see Rudy as too liberal on the big three GAG social issues (Guns, Abortion, and Gays) and they will NOT vote for him. The GOP cannot win without that part of the base as a part of its uneasy coalition with greedy bastards and warmongers.

                                    If the Democrats are foolish enough to nominate Hillary Clinton, I will vote for a 3rd party candidate if Rudy wins the GOP nomination. Hillary will win the election. If she moves to stop the war, I will support her in that endeavor as president.

                                    But I won't hold my breath.

                                    • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)AmericanIdiot
                                      AmericanIdiot
                                      Oct. 28, 2007, 7:05 p.m.

                                      Rudy Giuliani has always built his support base on fear and oppression of an "outside" group. When he was District Attorney, he built his name by "taking on" the Italian Mafia. The genteel old Dons were locked up, and their violent young sons took over, which was no improvement. When Rudy ran for Mayor, he used code words to race-bait David Dinkins, he would incite crowds of policemen and firefighters, with little thought of the riots and violence that could result. As Mayor of New York City, Giuliani sent policemen to beat the homeless out of the city. Giuliani is a bully, and he attacks only the weak.

                                      Now the Catholic Giuliani, married to the Jewess Judy Nathan, is positioning himself as the candidate of the Evangelical "conservatives".

                                      That they have supported this move shows the reality - that White Evangelical "conservatives" are a White Power group. They are not concerned with religion or morality.

                                      • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)icono1
                                        icono1
                                        Oct. 28, 2007, 9:17 p.m.

                                        ????? If Caesar Rudy is now labeled a liberal?! will that make Sir Hillary a conservative!!??

                                        • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)allasam
                                          allasam
                                          Oct. 28, 2007, 10:18 p.m.

                                          Be warned - Rudy is more dangerous to Americans than Cheney.

                                          • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)mamasan
                                            mamasan
                                            Oct. 28, 2007, 10:30 p.m.

                                            rudy is a panty waist.

                                            GOP

                                            • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)kedirian
                                              kedirian
                                              Oct. 28, 2007, 10:54 p.m.

                                              Whatever happened to Giuliani's prostate cancer he supposedly had/has? If elected, he wont be the first Pres who needs viagra...

                                              • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)wildman6557
                                                wildman6557
                                                Oct. 28, 2007, 11:01 p.m.

                                                Rudy fits the Republicans quite well. Keep in mind that Bush's pandering to the social conservatives is mainly for show. The Republican appointees were the ones who voted in Wade v. Roe. Rudy simply has thrown the show out without much apparent affect.

                                                • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)wildman6557
                                                  wildman6557
                                                  Oct. 28, 2007, 11:02 p.m.

                                                  Colorado doesn't have a chance.....

                                                  • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Searchbeam
                                                    Searchbeam
                                                    Oct. 28, 2007, 11:04 p.m.

                                                    If you like to see his judgment, consider the shady characters he has gathered together for his campaign!

                                                    You probably know that he recommended his buddy Bernie Keric, the ex-Commissioner of Police of NYC. During his background check, the FBI found a lot of dirty deeds and criminal activities. He is being investigated for those crimes!

                                                    Now he keeps some distance between himself and Bernie!

                                                    Someone said it here that he is a bully! That is an understatement! His father was a part of NYC Mafia, and Rudy has learned a few things from that.

                                                    He is only good at self- promotion!

                                                    • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Shadowolf
                                                      Shadowolf
                                                      Oct. 29, 2007, 10:37 a.m.

                                                      SPAM ALERT!!!

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