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Posted By bill2936 1 year, 8 months ago in NewsIt is the greatest scam in history. I am amazed, appalled and highly offended by it. Global Warming; It is a SCAM.
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RickyDawkins1 year, 8 months ago
The joke is on all of us!
the
secret
campaign
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president
bushs
administration
to
deny
global
warming
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http://news.propeller.com/story/2007/06/22/the-...
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Dicax_Maximus1 year, 8 months ago
Now, I'm not titled Dicax_Maximus for nothing.....
This is what I get when I attempt to access the link :-
Error 500 - Internal server error
An internal server error has occured!
Please try again later
Don't suppose someones stomped on the story because it's different from their agenda, do you ???
Oh well, maybe it's just a technical malfunction.....
Hmmmm....
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Klarissa1 year, 8 months ago
If you want to see the real history of the climate, not just that last 100 years that have been used by those who want to make money on carbon credits, etc, look at:
http://www.scotese.com/climate.htm
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Klarissa1 year, 8 months ago
That tessylo negged this tells me a lot about him/her.
A mind that bans scientific facts has his/her opinions determined by the sales pitch of others.
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RickyDawkins1 year, 8 months ago
Klarissa, don't just look at republican-funded-denial websites. Also look at some legitimate websites, ya know, just to branch out bit.
Here ya go...
http://www.climatesciencewatch.org/
(don't say anything about carbon credits, they are non-profit)
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/306/...
http://www.physorg.com/news3432.html
"Many people don't realize we are committed right now to a significant amount of global warming and sea level rise because of the greenhouse gases we have already put into the atmosphere," says lead author Gerald Meehl. "Even if we stabilize greenhouse gas concentrations, the climate will continue to warm, and there will be proportionately even more sea level rise. The longer we wait, the more climate change we are committed to in the future."
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walden31 year, 8 months ago
so what's the deal, humans spewing tons and tons of waste gasses every year have no effect on their environment? only a fool or ideologue would make that claim.
so then we have, to simplify things, two possible options and two possible outcomes -
we make no changes to our what we spew-
we're right and there is no global warming - this is the second best outcome.
we're wrong and there is global warming - worst possible outcome because now we've accelerated destruction and done nothing to remediate.
we make changes to what we spew -
we're right and there is no global warming, we still gain through increases in efficiency.
we're wrong and there is global warming, we'll we made the necessary changes and haven't lost much most likely because any economic cost may be made up through other gains in efficiency.
so you see the real danger is not doing anything.
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abntv1 year, 8 months ago
No the real danger here is running around like chicken little. If you continue to scream the sky is falling there will continue to be a stronger and stronger polarizing effect then nothing will be accomplished.
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Klarissa1 year, 8 months ago
Walden - the spewing isn't the problem. The real problem is preparing ourselves for the natural cycle of earth's atmosphere.
We need to be ready to move inland, and change the choice of sites for food plants.
If you will look at the site I mentioned above, you will find that there have been areas of the earth that were inhabited, but are not now. And you will find drastic changes in deserts and forests.
Please arm yourself with the facts.
I think we disagree on one important aspect of climate change. You think that humans can prevent global warming.
I think that we shouldn't make it worse, but our main concern is learning to adapt. I don't think humans can alter the intensity of the sun's rays, or the smoke and ash from volcanos.
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bill29361 year, 8 months ago
Notice who provided the Propeller Scout Commentary and how he voted. Interesting.... I guess this story won't make the front page. Not with it running contrary to the libscape political views.
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RickyDawkins1 year, 8 months ago
Notice that the story is not fact-based, which makes it impossible to take seriously.
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ind061 year, 8 months ago
"Notice who provided the Propeller Scout Commentary and how he voted. Interesting.... I guess this story won't make the front page. Not with it running contrary to the libscape political views."
Haysoos Marimba! Whine me a river! Enough with the conservative paranoia express! It's already on the home page. As stories benefiting the conservative point of view are on a DAILY basis!
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coolrayfruge1 year, 8 months ago
I don't know if its a scam or not!
But its 72 in Flagstaff Az in November.
Which is unusual for this time of year.
Pine trees are dying because of the lack of water and the bark beetle.
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Klarissa1 year, 8 months ago
Sorry about the bark beetle, we had that too, but we had plenty of rain.
We are having record high temperatures - AND record low temperatures.
The average isn't warmer, but the temperatures are more extreme.
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SonOfTheMask1 year, 8 months ago
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RickyDawkins1 year, 8 months ago
From the Union of Concerned Scientists:
In its assessment, the IPCC strengthened that conclusion considerably, saying, "There is new and stronger evidence that most of the warming observed over the last 50 years is attributable to human activities."
Scientists have found significant evidence that leads to this conclusion:
* The observed warming over the past 100 years is unlikely to be due to natural causes alone; it was unusual even in the context of the last 1,000 years.
* There are better techniques to detect climatic changes and attribute them to different causes.
* Simulations of the climate's response to natural causes (sun, volcanoes, etc.) over the latter half of the 20th century alone cannot explain the observed trends.
* Most simulation models that take into account greenhouse gas emissions and sulphate aerosols (which have a cooling effect) are consistent with observations over the last 50 years.
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RickyDawkins1 year, 8 months ago
The greatest scam in history is Christianity. Next greatest scam is Islam. After that is when they changed the recipe for Coke. Also, don't forget about that guy in Nigeria who has a suitcase of money for you...
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ind061 year, 8 months ago
Yes, so outrageously unfortunate that the evil liberals who run Propeller are keeping you down! What BS! It's there already.
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Klarissa1 year, 8 months ago
Thanks, neophile, for putting this up.
I have a feeling that all of you who work for propeller are of the "younger" generation, and that a lot of us commenting are of the "older" generation. We older folks (I'm 72) have experienced a lot of "crises" in our lives, so tend to take the lastest popular crises with a grain of salt.
Perhaps a lot of you contributers disagree with me, let neophile know, please.
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independent4life1 year, 8 months ago
Whether global warming is occurring or not is only half of the issue as far as I'm concerned. The earth has been experiencing warming and cooling cycles since the earths existence. How much of the warming is caused by man, and whether carbon credits are a solution or a fraud is the other part of the issue.
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Klarissa1 year, 8 months ago
independent - very well put, those are the important questions.
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independent4life1 year, 8 months ago
Yes. In fact that consensus that Saddam had WMD's was present in Washington in 1998 as I recall.
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aaron59511 year, 8 months ago
I've studied the weather for a while... since I was about 14...I'm 24 now.
Global warming? Maybe in the short-term, but it's not a long-lasting effect. As others have intelligently alluded to, the weather goes through cycles, and we are probably experiencing a warm cycle, especially here in the U.S. But what about other continents and countries? Are they really going through this "heat wave?"
On top of that, NOAA claims the global earth temperature is, for example, up 0.8 degrees over last year worldwide. So what? I would be worried if the jump was 10 degrees or more. That might be a case for action. One degree difference? The only time I'm ever worried about a 1 degree difference is when it's between 32 and 33 Fahrenheit.
If you want to look at something that's more interesting, I'd take a look at December 21, 2012, and its solar alignment with other constellations and planets. At least this claim has some historical backing from other civilizations!
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RickyDawkins1 year, 8 months ago
Your time would have been better spent at a university. Rather than 10 years at Applebees.
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kedirian1 year, 8 months ago
Has anyone ever watched KUSI in San Diego and observed this old crackpot Coleman pontificate about the weather and whatever enters his senile mind? His station is about as objective as Fox News with dried up personalities to boot.
John Coleman a weatherman, my foot! Village-idiot would be more like it....
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Gransater1 year, 8 months ago
I don't know what bothers me most. The cavalier attitude of some that this whole thing is a hoax, on one side of the coin, to the dire predictions from those on the other side of the argument. The reason for the extreme opinions I atribute to being the only way respective group thinks their message can be heard.
I do think that normal climate swing is present, but I also do believe that human interaction with the environment is present. Radical climate change has been documented and provcen by scientists through among other things the study of samples of ice from northen and southern latitudes. Those studies also indicate that the changes took place over extended periods of time, ie centuries. The rapid change we are experiencing woulkd seem to indicate something is amiss. Let me compare this with another phenomenom.
Water boils at approximately 212 dgs F, depending on elevation above the ocean. That means that at 211 dgs the water is merely warm/hot.
Cont below.
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Gransater1 year, 8 months ago
That's obviously a diference of 1 degree. Yet the state of water changes dramatically, by that small change in temperature. There are other examples in physics, chemistry, where minute changes result in significant change of state of various matters.
My question to all who are indiferent to climate change is:
Using the example above, can anyone tell me at what temperature earth's climate is at, when it comes to human interaction. Is the water merely luke warm, warm, hot or just below the boiling point. Please show me where we can continue our present course without boiling over. Please show me this scientifically, as I can show unequivocably that warming the water by 1 degree will make it boil.
Thanks.
Gransater
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cc21121 year, 8 months ago
Hey Dawkins, how original, pay a bunch of "scientists" to study "arctic and antarctic climate impact" and they found change in CO2 levels in the past 150 years? What happened in 1853 to cause these changes? SUV's? George Bush? And all of you environmental wackos never report that while arctic ice may be shrinking in horizontal surface area, it is getting thicker vertically! And you env wackos would be taken more seriously if every five years you didn't predict the earth would end in five years!
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