Chinese Submarine Pops Up Amidst Navy Exercises »
Posted By jordan11 1 year ago in NewsAmerican military chiefs have been left dumbstruck by an undetected Chinese submarine surfacing in the middle of their Navy exercises. It surfaced within striking distance of the USS Kitty Hawk, with 4500 personnel on board.
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not2needy1 year ago
A cloaking device perhaps?
Terrorists?
Don't let Bush hear about this, he will want to nuke China!
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injest1 year ago
Perhaps they had their ASW active sonar's off to "save the whales". Passive systems don't work on Electric sub's only active sonar will detect them.
Sonar 'may cause whale deaths'
Two months ago the US Navy was ordered by a federal court not to test a powerful sonar system in most parts of the world, because of fears the booming sounds emitted to detect enemy submarines could "irreparably harm" cetaceans and fish.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/31739...
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injest1 year ago
Protecting Whales from Dangerous Sonar
Following a historic victory, NRDC steps up the campaign at home and abroad to regulate active sonar systems that harm marine mammals.
U.S. court blocks sonar testing to protect whales
mongabay.com
August 7, 2007
The government has argued that testing is vital to national security.
"The U.S. Navy's use of sonar, and the ability to test and train with it, is critical to the national security of the United States," the government argued, according to Reuters.
Joel Reynolds, senior attorney and director of the Marine Mammal Protection Project at NRDC. "The Navy's rejection of common sense protective measures -- even measures requested by the California Coastal Commission -- is illegal, unacceptable, and completely unnecessary."
Unless your trying to find Submarines
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hdthehn1 year ago
injest
Perhaps they didn't have ASW active sonar's off. It would not be the first time Bush violated the law or a court order. You never now when dealing with "Got WMD. We do not torture." George.
Nor is this the first time the US military got caught with its pants down and a wedgie firmly applied under the Bush/Cheney watch - aka 911 Air Force non-response to 3 hijacked commercial flights, one of which struck at the Military's command center: The Pentagon. Just one more disgrace in a long, long line of miserable failures from the "Decider" and his "Commanders" in the field of operations.
Wonder what other MASSIVE SURPRISES the Chinese and other nations have produced while Bush and our intelligence agencies were detoured by the neocon collective in the Iraq WMD/Democracy/get Saddam witchhunt.
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augustine9741 year ago
We can thank God that China only spends 5% of what we spend on our military. If they spent just half as much as we do, we would be the ones of "no significance"...the moniker that bush belittles the rest of the world with.
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awongscreen1 year ago
The big corporations would not allow GW to nuke China. They need globalisation and out sourcing.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year ago
Sadly the billions end up in the hands of cronies and never do wells. I fear our defense is so outdated and cumbersome. These folks are still gearing up to fight the cold war. They try to use stealth bombers to combat some idiot lighting his shoe on fire. The stupidity and greed that has transfered the U.S. industrial base to China is self defeating in the long term. But highly profitable for the very short term for some.
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cowboygrandpa1 year ago
jordan11: Thanks for the story and heads up. First of all Bush thinking is an oxymoron. LOL Ha Ha Ha Ha. What he is doing is selling off America. He thinks his money will make it OK for himself and his family. Just the proof that his intelligence is not only questiomable but not provable.
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HannibalBarca1 year ago
Trillions spent in the 50's and 60's on nuclear deterents but Iran scares USA with no nuclear arsenal yet, and they say they have no intention of getting any.
Trillions spent nuclear boomers and attack subs yet a diesel electric sub has put that to shame and they are building a surface navy so what surprises are yet to come with these.
What ever they are rest assured that the pentagon will spend trillions more to combat it and keep USA safe.
Got to keep the war economy booming.
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jimdoze1 year ago
"nuclear subs are noisy. Diesel subs are much quieter"
When diesel pistons are clattering, that certainly can't be the case. But, when diesel subs are running on battery they may run nearly as quietly as nuclear sub propulsion systems. At this level, the quality of the anti-cavitation engineering (bubbles generated by the props) is what is key. The Walker family spy ring gave most of our top-secret information about anti-cavitation technology to the Russians, which pretty well eliminated our advantage vis-a-vis the Russians in this area. It would be interesting to know if the Chinese now possess that technology.
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