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Local atheist groups have announced that they are planning to protest Georgia Governor Sonny Perdue as he meets with local religious leaders to pray for rain.

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  • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)stephen-johnson
    stephen-johnson
    Nov. 10, 2007, 10:45 p.m.

    This is nuts.

    A group of politicians praying for rain publicly doesn't force an atheist to do any action against his will.

    The atheists don't want separation of church and state, they want separation of church FROM state.

    Hopefully, there will be a cloudburst that will rain on the atheists parade.

    • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)tanglang
      tanglang
      Nov. 10, 2007, 11:03 p.m.

      Apparently these atheists feel that politicians are not allowed to be religious.

      • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)CactusAnnie
        CactusAnnie
        Nov. 10, 2007, 11:24 p.m.

        Now that is thinking outside the box. Maybe a little too far outside the box. Would you really want that in your drinking water? ;-D

        • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)kobzikov
          kobzikov
          Nov. 11, 2007, 2:41 a.m.

          Ah, I see the Christian spirit of Inquisition is alive and well in you, Halko.

          It is quite refreshing that you are not hiding behind all that Jesus tolerance BS anymore and flying your true psycho colors.

          • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)hyperbola
            hyperbola
            Nov. 11, 2007, 10 a.m.

            Well, it might be more effective to reduce the number of people needing water. Perhaps all those "praying" could be exported to some other country.

            • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)icelander
              icelander
              Nov. 11, 2007, 10 a.m.

              Is there anything Christians can think of besides killing non-believers?

              • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Dicax_Maximus
                Dicax_Maximus
                Nov. 11, 2007, 11:15 a.m.

                Folks, I do believe you're getting a little "hot under the collar" over what I percieved to be a humerous remark.....

                Besides which, it would be "infringing the rights of fish" to have a clean & safe living environment......

                Just don't tell the crabs.....

                • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Natureboy
                  Natureboy
                  Nov. 11, 2007, 5:17 p.m.

                  "Liquify those protesting and throw their water into the reservoir."

                  The voice of the true follower of the prince of peace,

                  crying out for the liquidation of those who don't agree with him.

                  Good thing he's not a muslim, I hear they are intolerant.

                  • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)brokennoser
                    brokennoser
                    Nov. 11, 2007, 12:07 a.m.

                    I say leave the superstitious morons alone. This pathetic, backwards culture has become an incredible source of entertainment. Maybe we can get a rain dance out of these simpletons while they're at it. To think we have the nerve to denegrate religious nuts in other countries.

                    • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Dicax_Maximus
                      Dicax_Maximus
                      Nov. 11, 2007, 5:03 a.m.

                      It's their faith, and as such, they are freely allowed to practise it, as long as it harms no one......

                      Likewise, the atheists have their own right of free speach to oppose it...

                      For the former, good luck, as I haven't noticed their deity doing much about anything recently.....

                      For the latter, I hope it rains cats & dogs !!!!

                      • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)KYRed
                        KYRed
                        Nov. 11, 2007, 5:29 a.m.

                        What is the problem? If they pray for rain and it comes then that's great. If it doesn't rain then the atheist can do............... what do they do?

                        • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)brothers
                          brothers
                          Nov. 11, 2007, 8:11 a.m.

                          Maybe the ones who want to pray for rain should protect the atheist for not praying.

                          • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)david_nwpa
                            david_nwpa
                            Nov. 11, 2007, 8:20 a.m.

                            I take a different view of this story. Why not have a Catholic priest, a Rabbi, and a Buddhist monk perform a ceremony? I realize that sounds considerably like the start of a joke, but my point is that it seems as if the Governor is a bit one-sided toward evangelical Christianity at the expense of other faiths. The rain ceremony is tantamount to an endorsement of religion by the government. Of course, if it does rain, then my theory is all wet.

                            • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)icelander
                              icelander
                              Nov. 11, 2007, 9:55 a.m.

                              Agreed. The idea that nobody is allowed to be religious is contrary to the fundamental principle of liberty that gives atheists like myself the ability to speak our minds about the nature of reality. If I lived nearby, I would refer these atheists to Michael Shermer's editorial in the September 2007 edition of Scientific American which explains this position. (For those who want to read it, it's available at http://tinyurl.com/2pdg3j )

                              A more rational response would be to raise money to buy low-income residents low-flow showerheads and faucets and to encourage people to reduce their water consumption. All these atheists are doing is presenting a bad example to others of what atheists truly are.

                              • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)woltsscience
                                woltsscience
                                Nov. 11, 2007, 10:01 a.m.

                                Sounds to me like the atheists are trying to establish their religions "atheism" as the state religion. That is an infringement upon rights of the governor and the other people of his state.

                                • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)getreal1
                                  getreal1
                                  Nov. 11, 2007, 10:21 a.m.

                                  Sonny Prude is not favored by me but if he wants to call a prayer meeting then I have no objection. It just so happens that Freedom allows anyone to worship or not worship.

                                  • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)expursuit
                                    expursuit
                                    Nov. 11, 2007, 12:10 p.m.

                                    its supposed to rain on wednesday

                                    • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)infidell2space
                                      infidell2space
                                      Nov. 11, 2007, 12:12 p.m.

                                      People of faith don't understand "freedom of religion" and the "separation of church and state". Not to long ago there were two different stories here on propeller, one about a Muslim opening the (or a) House of Representatives with a Muslim prayer and the other story was about a muslim explaining "Islam" at a collage. The Christians (for the most part) all complained that this was promoting and indorsing Islam, well this promoting and indorsing works both ways.

                                      I'll try some different analogies in an attempt to explain the concept of freedom of religion and separation of church.

                                      • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)infidell2space
                                        infidell2space
                                        Nov. 11, 2007, 12:26 p.m.

                                        The Governor and Lieutenant Governor should not be using their official positions, nor the State capital building to promote religion, if they want to pray for rain it should be in their homes and their Churches. No Christian sect, denomination or cult would stand for any other Religion, sect or cult to be supported and promoted by their elected officials by the taxes they pay.

                                        • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)getreal1
                                          getreal1
                                          Nov. 11, 2007, 12:30 p.m.

                                          I know that politicians have used religion to get votes and money, we have Bush jr. as a result. There should be less of that type of con this election since most of the administration and elected dropped and showed their true selves

                                          • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Daylight
                                            Daylight
                                            Nov. 11, 2007, 1:37 p.m.

                                            I don't understand why should Atheists want to protest the prayers of a religious group. Is it not intolerant? what they can do is not vote for the Governor next time. They are elected by the majority of the believers and the Governor is obliged to join the prayer. May be their prayer is not going to help bring the rain down but that is their belief, let them try. We Muslims do pray too whenever there is no rain and we go with umbrella in our hand and collectively pray and we have seen rain pouring down and we are so confident that the prayers of sincere believer/believers will be heard.

                                            • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Wolfie2007
                                              Wolfie2007
                                              Nov. 11, 2007, 1:49 p.m.

                                              infidell2space

                                              It's pretty obvious that you haven't taken the time to read the 1st Amendment. When you do you'll likely be surprised to find that there is no mention of "separation of church and state" that is just some more made up nonsense. Therefore, before you begin claiming and expounding do your homework first.

                                              • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)smithichie
                                                smithichie
                                                Nov. 11, 2007, 1:59 p.m.

                                                Nothing fails like a prayer.

                                                Prayer is so useful, why don't parents use it to change their kid's diapers? Because those parents would be locked up for neglect.

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