U.S. warships make first north Vietnam visit »
Posted By STONERS 1 year, 7 months ago in NewsTwo U.S. Navy vessels on Wednesday became the first American warships to visit northern Vietnam in peacetime, entering Haiphong port which U.S. forces mined and bombed in the Vietnam War 40 years ago.
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STONERS1 year, 7 months ago
"The ships usually go south but these are the first military ships to make an official visit to a northern port since normalization of relations in 1995."
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saintetienne1 year, 7 months ago
"As I sit here in my "made in Viet Nam" shirt I think of all those guys who would be out of work now because of outsourcing had they not ended their futures in VN - "
....well, then I guess it's a good thing they ended their futures in Vietnam, because I certainly wouldn't want my tax dollars subsidizing even MORE lazy, whiny, can't-find-a-job people than I already am.
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Jaydee401 year, 7 months ago
How many lives were lost trying to stop what the UN had already agreed to, the unification of north and south Vietnam. Forty years later we see it wast not a bad thing but what the people wanted, most of them anyway.
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saintetienne1 year, 7 months ago
God, Jaydipsh*t. What's the matter, have you grown tired of whining and complaining about everything that's wrong in the world today that you have to go back and dredge up 40-year-old history to yammer on and on about? Does ANYthing please you? You must have been one horrid brat as a child.
"Mommy, I don't like this."
"Mommy, I don't want that."
"Mommy, I hate my miserable life. Make it better."
"Mommy, keep giving me money. I don't want to work in the awful world."
Sheesh. Mommy should have given you a big slap and told you to grow up. But tnen I suppose inconsequence runs in your family.
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NelsonR1 year, 7 months ago
A prime example of WHY America should not be a belligerent on the world stage. Vietnam or Iraq never attacked us yet here we are at war again and squandering Billions.
Vietnam did not turn out to be a boogeyman nor will Iraq in the future yet our lunatic leaders, Bushie especially, have continued to lead us to the toilet with the use of "Fear".
Our infrastructure suffers, our debt is horrendous yet our leaders still remain year in and year out without change. America deserves what it votes for, WHOS NEXT?
Stay out of the business of nation building and intrusion, if not then stay the god our leaders think we are and continue to saddle our next generation with more debt and death.
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saneman1 year, 7 months ago
Since they have at least one of the fastest growing economies in the world, and since private ownership of farms and companies, deregulation and foreign investment are encouraged and since Vietnam has achieved rapid growth in agricultural and industrial production, construction and housing, exports, and foreign investment, it wouldn't be a surprise if the U.S. would want to forge its way into some of that success.
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saintetienne1 year, 7 months ago
"Lots of sensitivity and touchiness still evident after over 30 years after our debacle in Viet Nam"
What?! Where? Most people I know couldn't give a toss about Vietnam - - ANCIENT HISTORY. The only people who bring it up, over and over and over again...ad nauseum...are the Baby Boomers, who seem to be stuck on this '60's nostalgia kick.
"Baby Boomers". HA! PERFECT label for a generation of brats whining and complaining about essentially nothing. But I digress.....
The Vietnam war is just a lousy excuse for aging hippies, Baby Boomers and other loony Libs to rally against ANY kind of war, defense buildup or security measure. I heard them all bellyache against Reagan's defense buildup in the '80's, yet it ended the Cold War and brought down the Iron Curtain. I heard them rail against GHW Bush's Gulf War, but it secured our oil interests so that YOU can drive your SUVs. Now the same griping toward GW Bush.
GOD, do you people ever SHUT UP?!
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canadianrancher571 year, 7 months ago
I have not really looked into the history of the start of the Vietman war but from what I recall was not the military action to stop the spread of communism sort of what happened in KOrea as well. I will say that a lot of young Americans died in this war but they may have been fighting for a cause, when the U.S. pulled out it made the war look like a loss and all the deaths were for nothing. Vietnam has recovered from this war and is once again an important member of the world comunnity, I am glad to see events like this take place, we may question the motives behind normalizing trade with former enemies but I think it is the high road and think we should commend the governments of both countries.
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blowback1 year, 7 months ago
To stop the spread of communism, and spread a little
freedom and democracy at the point of a gun, was the
excuse for our imperial expansion in both Korea and Vietnam.
To stop the spread of terror, and spread a little freedom
and democracy at the point of a gun, is the excuse for our
imperial expansion in both Afghanistan and Iraq.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Even the lies remain the same.
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aceofspades11 year, 7 months ago
canadian - Viet Nam was called French IndoChina but the French were deposed about 1954 & Viet Nam was split in two like Korea - the North alined with the communists - the south with the west - Eisenhower was not the greatest on foreign policy & didn't see the true threat of what was really a civil war started by the North - Dulles had his head up his ass - but the true failure of our VN policy lays at the feet of JFK he abandoned the leader of South VN who was assasinated - as was JFK shortly after - then LBJ used the Gulf of Tonkin incident to escalate the war & 50,000 Americans died - now we wear VN clothes & Coca Cola is big there - end of story
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klr601 year, 7 months ago
As a Tet vet, I just wish you were there-you have not a clue as to what you are talking about. War is War. We were in VN for same(basically), same reason-to promote a Democracy-what a joke. Bush is on the wrong track & should be assainated. If this country does not turn around-god bless us all-my year in VN, was a waste-lucky to be alive.-you people have not a clue to what really happened over there-forget baby boomers & think about 58,000 lives being lost for nothing, much like Iraq & afghanistan-some of you have no conscience at all-
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canadianrancher571 year, 7 months ago
klr60- I was not in favor of the war but for the times the excuse used for the war at the begining was easier for the people to accept. I will agree with you that this was a terrible loss of good people, and when you look at things today between Your country and Vietnam no one can blame the vets for being bitter, it to was a war for nothing.
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Jaydee401 year, 7 months ago
Unfortunately people do get rich and that is why we still have them.
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