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Posted by: tonks21 2 years ago'Lions for Lambs' is a perfect example of how the entertainment business is using movies to push their political agenda on the audiences of the world. The screen writer (whose name escapes me) obviously has some personal views of the war on terror and is trying to push those ideas on to the people watching.
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dexlovex2
Nov. 14, 2007, 11:08 a.m.Can We Say Political Agenda coming from the Arthur of this article?
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tonks21
Nov. 14, 2007, 11:26 a.m.I have to say that this movie wasn't that great and I haven't found anyone else who likes it.
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tehranchik
Nov. 14, 2007, 11:27 a.m.From the article: "Listen up Hollywood none of us go to the movies to watch something that drips with sarcasm and can start up a heated debate in under 60 seconds."
I do. I haven't seen this one yet but after reading this review---I can hardly wait!
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Aidenag
Nov. 14, 2007, 11:30 a.m.FTA:
"Listen up Hollywood none of us go to the movies to watch something that drips with sarcasm and can start up a heated debate in under 60 seconds. We go to the movies to forget about the horrors and frustration of the world around us."
I personally like movies that make you think. And delve into real world problems and situations. In fact i think that's been one of the largest problems with hollywood as of late. They do not make enough movies that do use current event. Heck, a large majority of the best films of all time had current events as a theme, or major world problems as a topic.
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Bkumm
Nov. 14, 2007, 11:45 a.m.So, since this is so biased, how is it different than movies, especially during WWII that encouraged Americans to support the war effort, join up or even to spy on their neighbors? Those movies were biased, distorted the truth and even lied, how is that different? I think the difference is that Hollywood isn't in support of this war and that just pi$$es some people off so bad they can't stand it.
By the way, the review is junk.
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cherev
Nov. 14, 2007, 12:39 p.m."'Lions for Lambs' is a perfect example of how the entertainment business is using movies to push their political agenda on the audiences of the world. "
You could tell this from the advertisements on the TV but so what? They've been doing this forever. Granted, they weren't so blatently leftist in the old days, but the liberal attitudes were still there. Twelve Angry Men is a good example. One of the biggest differences between then and today is the quality of what's coming out of Hollywood.
Bottom line, if you don't like what's coming out of Hollywood, don't spend your time and money at the movies. But don't expect the propoganda wing of the Democratic Party, whether it's Hollywood or the major media outlets, to ever, ever provide us with the truth. That's just not going to happen until we have a leader who'll force the issue.
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Mintyfunk
Nov. 14, 2007, 12:43 p.m.It's just one of several that are out now pandering to the Anti-War crowd, In the Valley of Elah, Home of the Brave, etc.
From the Box office draws of these movies, it's not nearly as popular a theme as Hollywood would have hoped.
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Gatsby
Nov. 14, 2007, 12:53 p.m.Hey SAAB7699
"ok! Who's Arthur?"
Good question, man. The author does have a political agenda. I've seen the movie and while it's not going to keep anybody in the edge of their seat tinglig with excitement, it does pose some very important questions about the dishonesty of US involvement in a couple of wars. It's about time Hollywood got involved.
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kiceman1
Nov. 14, 2007, 2:41 p.m.The hollywood idiots should keep their political views out of movies these people play make believe for a living and if it wasn't for our military and the willingness to use it they wouldn't have the freedoms they take for granted.They're just actors not political scholars nor are they speaking for the masses just themselves and thier agenda.Think about this if the republicans are for the rich then why are almost all actors entertainers democrats.It's because its the democrats misinformation that keeps being funneled to the public as fact instead of rhetoric!!!!!!
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Daylight
Nov. 14, 2007, 3:14 p.m.War on terror is war on Islam by the Zionist Christian and Born again Christian. Bush and Blair are the leaders of this war. It is a new Crusade to protect Israel and to steal oil.
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markmawn2
Nov. 14, 2007, 3:15 p.m.Perhaps the better term is Counter-Propaganda, with the intent to educate the public on the real story behind the headlines or the Fox News propaganda machine.
Rocky 4 was a propaganda film with an extreme right bent. Who denies this?
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Charlson
Nov. 14, 2007, 3:16 p.m.Thanks for the heads up. You've convinced me. I'm going out and see that movie. Want to make up my own mind before I say anything more about it.
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Wolfie2007
Nov. 14, 2007, 3:23 p.m.Conservatives can have the last laugh on Hollywood when the financial reports are published. They have been hemorrhaging for years.
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Truzseeker
Nov. 14, 2007, 4:17 p.m.Turn off the TV, don't go to the Cinema, and do something constructive.
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Fangarius
Nov. 14, 2007, 4:23 p.m.Problem with the reporter's POV is this: EVERYTHING within our media has political satire in one form or fashion. Obliviously she hasn't read or heard of Walt Kelly's Pogo which literally slammed the U.S. Government with political satire.
Then you have Michael Moore and his documentaries from his recent 'Sicko,' to his original 'Roger and Me'. And who could forget his little speech at the Oscars?
Not to mention George Carlin's views on how we run things in this country. The truth is, though we are patriotic for the most part, we Americans aren't stupid either. We realize we don't live in a perfect country, and we've been criticized long before Hollywood was ever established. The thing is people tend to forget is, 'it's only a movie, get over it.'
Or to put it as Mr. Kelly did, 'Don't take life too serious, it ain't nohow permanent.'
Some decent words to live by.
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navyblue2
Nov. 14, 2007, 4:46 p.m.I work in the entertainment industry, and I think the author should know that the use of entertainment media as a platform for a political agenda is not new. Shakespeare did it, Moliere did it, and never were there more films with a political slant then in the 1940s. Heck, Casablanca's whole theme was about the sacrifices we must make for the greater cause... and it was a hit on the homefront in 1942. Furthermore, Hollywood was anti-war five years ago, but they didn't churn out anti-war movies then, because the country didn't want to see them. The citizenry was all pro-war and pro-Bush. We're not anymore, and Hollywood is creating films for a nation desperate for an explanation of how we got here, and advice on how we might get out. Propaganda films tell you what to think, films like this one tell you that you SHOULD be thinking. An educated, thinking populace is what our current administration fears more then the terrorists.
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injest
Nov. 14, 2007, 10 p.m.http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/lionsforl...
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20159596,00.html
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afoaf
Nov. 14, 2007, 5:41 p.m.I think it's laughable that the author of this article (possibly Arthur) went to this movie thinking he was going to get anything even remotely unbiased.
It's a fictional movie written to lure audiences in with themes based on current events.
It's NOT a documentary (which aren't inherently unbiased themselves) or other format that presupposes an unbiased presentation of the story, whether it's fact or fiction.
Furthermore, I could have guessed this thread would have gone the way of "the liberal hollywood media" just by reading the title on the main page...with all the usual suspects and their conspiracy theories about the liberal holocaust against the poor, lil' ole christians.
The original article and subsequent thread make baby jesus cry because it's idiotic to the core.
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slate
Nov. 14, 2007, 6:46 p.m.Numbers say it all,,,,, the anti war movies aren't making money,,,,,, everyone goes to movies,,,, not just those that have a R next to their names. If this movie was a good movie, people would go see it. This movie got 4th place and that is supposed to Hollywood's Stalwart movie with all the top players. I can't remember the name of all these movies but I heard one has made about ¼ of what they spent to make it. For these movies to be making such small amounts of money, it stands to reason that only the diehard supporters of these types of movies are going and everyone else is deciding to spend their money elsewhere,,,, you do the math and come up with your own reasons why this is happening.
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GypsyFeet
Nov. 14, 2007, 7:21 p.m.dexlovex2 Send Message
Can We Say Political Agenda coming from the Arthur of this article?
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"Arthur?"
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willottica
Nov. 14, 2007, 7:23 p.m.Any good art has a message. And REALLY good art evokes emotions, be that love or hate.
What's the point otherwise. Do you really want movies to just be about entertainment and making people smile? Wanna vote Shakespeare in Love for Best Picture again? I think it's great that there is more going on in Hollywood than the traditional formula.
Guy meets girl, guy loses girl, guy gets girl back. Everyone smiles.
If I were to make a movie, HELL YES I'd want to say something with it. If you don't have anything to say, spare us the recycled garbage of another formulaic movie. I can't think of any really good movie that DIDN'T have some sort of political or ideological agenda.
It's not a conspiracy, it's an opinion.
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RedstateLib
Nov. 14, 2007, 7:42 p.m.I love movies and books that make me question things. If nobody had written books questioning the authority of King George and the right of all men to be free we would most likely have pictures of the queen on our money today. Hey those rabble rousing traitors did a heck of a job. Good thing they had minds that were open to questioning the political satus quo of their times.
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