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Posted by: TechnologyExpert 2 years agoPresident Bush vetoed legislation Wednesday that would have expanded government-provided health insurance for children, his second slap-down of a bipartisan effort in Congress to dramatically increase funding for the popular program.
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bubba2
Dec. 12, 2007, 7:50 p.m.And a "BAH, HUMBUG" to you, too, Mr. Bush ... but I expect that you will get more than a lump of coal in your Neiman-Marcus Xmas stocking ...
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nostalgia
Dec. 13, 2007, 9:09 a.m.I heard this AM on the news that they introduce legislation immediately that will cover the shortfall between now and the end of the fiscal year
The program will continue under the old rules
Now if they can just stop the waivers to cover adults, maybe the program will work as it was intended - cover CHILDREN
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rightfromwrong
Dec. 13, 2007, 9:13 a.m.Let's face it....Bush is a criminal and he should be dropped off in the Iraqi desert along with his other thugs Pearl, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld and Cheney so they can all be tortured and put to death. Make sure they destroy the tapes thought!!!!
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bill2936
Dec. 13, 2007, 9:49 a.m.I was watching a series on NBC news about the FRAUD in Medicare, imagine how much more fraud there will be with government paid 'universial care'.
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cherev
Dec. 13, 2007, 10:17 a.m.Yeah, all us Republicans are cold, heartless b@st@rds who want children to suffer and die because of a lack of healthcare. While the Democrats are just warm hearted Pollyanna types who bring sunshine and love to the masses....for the sake of the children.
People will live up or down to your expectations. If anyone truly wanted to address the issue of American health care (or wellness), demonizing those who don't see things as "clearly" as you do is definitely the first step to accomplish the goal.
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THOMNH62
Dec. 13, 2007, 11:51 a.m.yeah, another entitlement program bites the dust, get a job and stop having babies you can't afford.
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Skeptic
Dec. 13, 2007, 12:26 p.m.I support providing health care for indigent children and in some cases, their parents. I do not support the plan submitted by congress because of unreasonable earnings guidelines. You need only to compare costs of private insurance and the projected cost of the current proposal to realize that there has to be a better plan. The following chart can give you an idea of the cost of private insurance:
Male, 40; Female 37; 2 children ages 10 & 7 - $199/mo
Male, 40; Female 37; no children - $141/mo
Male, 30; Female 27; 2 children ages 10& 7 - $157/mo
Male, 30; Female 27; no children - $142/mo
Male, 25, single - $60/mo
Female, 25, single - $72/mo
If you think that all your expenses should be paid for by insurance, well that is going to be a bit more. Would you be willing to pay for auto insurance that covers routine maintenance as health insurance pays for periodic checkups?
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panzerv
Dec. 13, 2007, 12:44 p.m.Check out "Zietgeist-The Movie" on youtube. Food for thought! Peace
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bill2936
Dec. 13, 2007, 12:46 p.m.To see how well the governemnt would run a socialized medicine scheme, look at the fraud in the Medicare system. Now just multiply it by the size of the new system.
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BuffaloJ
Dec. 13, 2007, 12:52 p.m.bush's veto doesn't suprise me a bit. He sees it as the first step towards government run healthcare.
This makes me mad, tho...when he vetoed the last SCHIP bill the increased cigarette tax was already in place and being collected. He vetoed the bill again this time and still I pay the increased cigarette tax(btw, yeah, yeah, I shouldn't smoke...I'm driving up healthcare costs...dar, dar, dar. move on.).
If they were going to pay for the SCHIP epansion with cigarette taxes and they are going to continue to collect these additional taxes then APPOVE THE HEATLTHCARE BILL!!! ITS ALREADY PAYED FOR!!!
BUT, because bush wants to privatize as much of government as possible I get to pay additional taxes for nothing!!!
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oneironaut420
Dec. 13, 2007, 1:11 p.m.Could those who are claiming universal health care is failing in other countries provide some verifiable sources to back that up?
My husband is a health insurance agent who, because of our geographical location, talks to a number of Canadians about health care. They rarely have any complaints about the quality of their medical care, and most are absolutely shocked at how much we pay.
No offense, but frankly, I tend to believe those who actually live in Canada and have experienced the system first-hand. 8)
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willottica
Dec. 13, 2007, 1:13 p.m."Ultimately, our nation's goal should be to move children who have no health insurance to private coverage, not to move children who already have private health insurance to government coverage."
That's a great idea, P. Bush! That way, when the children become sick, their private health insurance can deny them coverage and they will die and be less of a burden on society. Gah!
Insurance companies should have minimum payout guidelines, say, they have to pay out 75% of premiums in benefits. 25% still seems like a huge amount of overhead, but it would be much better than the 75% overhead they now claim.
And if they deny claims to reduce fraud, that's all well and good, but if they 'accidentally' don't pay out enough, they should have to refund a portion of the premiums.
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willottica
Dec. 13, 2007, 1:19 p.m.As for drawbacks to the Canadian Health Care system. Yes, we currently have excessively long wait times in our system. Why is this? Because we have a doctor shortage in the country... the government took the bonehead notion that limiting the number of students who were allowed to enroll in Medical School was a good thing... thus, not enough graduates to fill available jobs.
Is this a flaw of Universal Health Care? Nope. It's a problem with meddling too much with the 'how' rather than just sticking to the 'what'.
A big part of the American problem is 'malpractice insurance'. Doctors are trying to help... so don't bloody well sue them if they aren't perfect or they'll just refuse to try! (This may be a symptom of the private health problem, I'm not sure. If hospitals are in it for profit, then why can't patients be?)
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simonsez
Dec. 13, 2007, 1:46 p.m.I think it is a flaw, willo, as I believe it will reduce the number of bright young people to enter the profession.
I agree malpractice is a problem down here, the "treble damages" portion of the lawsuits should be removed.
I wonder if you have as much problem with gangs and drugs in your country. Our emergency rooms are generally filled with shootings, stabbings, overdoses, and other drug related traumas.
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THOMNH62
Dec. 13, 2007, 1:58 p.m.so Coreyspring, are you talking about the same parents that have two car payments a tv in every room, dvd players, x box, because thats the poor in this country. Trash that lives off the systems you libs have created for generations making sure you have dependent voters forever. Get over it people extort the system, this would have been another bloated buracracy. I will give you this though, Bush has led us down a path of disaster with this war. When he was elected, as a fiscal conservative I thought great way to cut taxes, fix ss, help the small buisness guy, close the borders, but he has been a huge disspointment to many of us neocons. Oh yeah, Hillary won't fix anything.
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bill2936
Dec. 13, 2007, 2:20 p.m.MEDICARE FRAUD: OUTRAGEOUS
http://dailynightly.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/...
MEDICARE FRAUD: HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN?
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Klarissa
Dec. 13, 2007, 2:22 p.m.There is a law pending in Congress that would make all health care insurance available in every state, As it is now, insurance policies can't be sold across state lines. Talk about anti-competition!
Please support the new law.
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not2needy
Dec. 13, 2007, 3:27 p.m.Yet again, 7 times in 7 years, Bush flips the bird at America's children.
Then he thumbs his nose and moons the rest of us!
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mamasan
Dec. 13, 2007, 3:43 p.m.From reading all the comments on here I can see
YOU CONS
know nothing about corporate welfare.
Oh you whine like big fat babies when it comes to giving
the average citizens the tools for a normal life
while big business eats up more money off of
corporate welfare than any program to provide med coverage
ever would.
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hyperbola
Dec. 13, 2007, 4:05 p.m.We should do away with all socialist vestiges in the US government - starting with the military. I don't want such a corrupt, inefficient organization to "defend" me.
Then, get rid of the CIA, FBI, NSA and all such socialist crap aimed at controlling americans.
Then we should do away with the justice system, especially the commercial part. This mainly serves to protect corrupt corporations. I don't want such a corrupt, inefficient socialist organization to provide "justice".
Next, do away with all organizations that register private property. This is socialist crap - no one should have to register their house and they can buy a gun to protect themselves from corporations that want to build on their land.
Next, do away with all police and fire departments. None of the socialist cooperation crap please.
Next, get rid of all roads. Everyone should be free to go where ever he wants and not have the routes determined by government socialists.
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