Baseball drug abuse list is huge: Clemens, Five MVPs... »
Posted By TechnologyExpert 1 year, 10 months ago in SportsThe list has been leaked -- and includes five MVPs. See the list at the site.
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joey-evans1 year, 10 months ago
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Cheaters....one and all.
strike them from any record book and deny any from Hall of Fame consideration.
Once they allow Shoeless Joe Jackson and/or Pete Rose their DESERVED place in the Hall of Fame, then you might consider some of these others.
JOEY EVANS
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BronxBomber1 year, 10 months ago
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Since when is the Hall of Fame based on a player's character? I thought it was based on a player's stats and performances ON the field. There are people in the HOF that I wouldn't invite to a boy scout jamboree. Yes indeed, there are people in the HOF that are worse than even gamblers. Let Pete Rose, and Joe Jackson in the HOF.
IMO.
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DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 10 months ago
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Shoeless Joe did NOT throw that series. You need to watch or read '8 Men Out'. Not gonna google, but I'd bet a nickel Joe hit well over .300 for the series. why are you slandering people that been dead for a million years? get a hobby
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tanglang1 year, 10 months ago
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Hey Tech Ex, I could not get the page to load.
Here is a link to the list of all the players who were mentioned in the report.
http://sports.aol.com/mlb/story/_a/list-of-play...
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amesburyroad1 year, 10 months ago
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Cheaters, frauds, snakes, jocks;.......arrogant stone face swollen drug muscles.
Baseball....what a joke.....and they are still taking Human Growth Hormone because you cannot test for it, so the cheating goes on!!!
And the player's union is outraged.....the jocks just do not get it....
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aceofspades11 year, 10 months ago
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Just a bunch of drugged up millionaires - they're all over the place - entertainment - (Spears, Iohan etc)
talk radio (Limburger) politics -(pick em) - its the poor schmucks doing street drugs that are doing time - the atheletes & others are just picking our pockets & we're getting chapped lips kissing their asses
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slyboy21 year, 10 months ago
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The way it looks, most of these players came in like everyone else, for the love of the game and were decent at it. When they became noticed and given big contracts it was expected for them to perform big. Personally if I was given a 50 million plus dollar contract or something, the temptation to keep performing well would be there. Money makes people do a lot of risky things.
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chevydog1 year, 10 months ago
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Don't think I like the use of these chemical things. But the longer I think about it, the more I can't logically say why.
No, I don't like records coming "out of a syringe". Yes, there are often long-term health problems associated with these substances. And I certainly don't like younger athletes emulating any of this use. Most especially if the stuff is illegally obtained.
On the other hand, we tend to glorify athletes who "play hurt". In baseball, this often includes the use of cortisone shots. Perhaps I'm missing something, but all other things being equal is there a moral difference between taking a cortisone shot to play and getting injected with HGH to speed up recovery from a torn muscle? Just where's the line?
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IcCaRus1 year, 10 months ago
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theres a very simple way to eliminate this:
test EVERY player THREE times a year-
opening day of spring training, last game b4 all star break, last day of the season
1st offense - 81 game suspension; forfeit 1/2 that seasons pay
2nd offense - full season suspension, lose whole seasons pay
3rd offense - lifetime ban, name removed from record books, lose eligibility for Hall of Fame.
only exception they should even consider might be HGH,ONLY if prescribed by doctor as part of treatment for an injury...
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capn_caveman1 year, 10 months ago
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If you mandate a drug test schedule (i.e. "opening day of spring training, last game b4 all star break, last day of the season") then you'll never catch anyone breaking the rules. The only way to catch cheaters is through a random testing program.
If I was a commissioner of a baseball league, players would be tested 10 times a year without warning - during the off-season or during the baseball season. If anyone had a problem with that, then see you later.
Of course that would never happen in MLB because of the power of the player's union.
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CaptainLucid1 year, 10 months ago
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If you allow HGH for an an injury then suddenly you will see a major increase in "injuries". The NBA finally ended the nonsense of its IR list and changed it to an inactive list. And don't make the dates certain. Some players will use a catheter to put clean urine from someone else in their bladder.
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chevydog1 year, 10 months ago
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Think it's always been a business, at least to the owners. Maybe a game to the players and spectators.
Like other businesses, it gets (or tries to get) its operating expenses paid for by the consumers of its product--through ticket prices in this case. And when it can, it tries to get costs covered by the general public--tax subsidies and the like.
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ConquerorWyrm1 year, 10 months ago
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WHO CARES?
This is absolutely STUPID!
It is a game. Why is this even news? Does this matter in anyway at all?
Oh sure, some folk like to watch the game, but how does that rank against ANYTHING else that is going on in this world. For even 10 minutes spent on this subject is a waste of time.
Baseball is a game. It serves the same purpose as religion and dandruff...it gives people something to waste their time and money on, nothing more.
Can any one of you out there give me one objective reason as to why this even should make the back page of anything but the sports section?
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chevydog1 year, 10 months ago
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In the larger view, one could argue that most sports don't matter. All we really need is food, clothing, and shelter. But lots of people enjoy watching them and investing psychic energy in them. Reasonable or not, like it or not, thats' a reality. Who knows what else would be done with that energy? And whether it would be "useful"?
The one thing sports does do is mirror society in a concrete setting. Sometime during the last X years, we as a society have turned to drugs to help with everything from improving sex to controlling unruly children. Is it good? Dunno. So I guess it shouldn't be a great surprise that drugs have enetered into the sports picture.
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harmlessoldman1 year, 10 months ago
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Major League Baseball is becoming the "sport" of the large markets. Its not "playing in Peoria" like it did in the 60's.This whole situation does not deserve the sweat off of my reproductive facilities. The game is ruined and it deserves what it gets. Nothing will change! I will say though, when people break federal drug laws and there is no consequence, then that concerns me. If Julio, Jamal, or Bubba had doen this in the local YMCA how would they be treated? Says a lot doesnt it. That pedistal you folks put these guys on has a tinge of brown on it and it stinks! Let the congregation say AMEN!
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jimdoze1 year, 10 months ago
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This bruhaha illustrates some simple facts. 1. Those who naturally excel as professional athletes are those whose bodies are on the extreme edge of the bell curve of production of "strength enhancing" substances, namely testerone. 2. Those who naturally exhibit longevity in professional sports are those whose bodies are on the extreme edge of the bell curve in the production of "repair and restore" substances, namely human growth hormone. 3. The development of "skill" emanates from a blend of 1 & 2 plus motor coordination and will. Without 1 & 2, the rest won't matter.
Lastly, we stand on the threshold of being able to genetically tweak for 1 & 2. Therefore, I would venture to say that in 25 years, athletics will somehow look very different than it does today.
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Codi69341 year, 10 months ago
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Are you going to demand that all actors and musicians return there awards for work they did in a heroin induced stooper. NO
So, what is the difference? If you are going to hold one form of entertainment to a standard, then you must hold all to the same.
P*ss test artist signing to a record label, see how many that come up clean.
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afoaf1 year, 10 months ago
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your comparisons don't square.
the point of sports is a contest played on an even field.
to imply that a painter should be held to the same strict standards as an olympic or domestic sports athlete is nothing short of ridiculous.
do you really believe that baseball is on par with the WWF in terms of expectations of reality and competitive validity?
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AnteUp1 year, 10 months ago
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Someone who really follows baseball, please?
What was it that Bonds did that made it so important
that he PAY for this transgression, more than anyone else?
Did he offend or stiff the sport's press or what?
IMO - they have had a hard-on for Bonds.
This report can't be news to professional baseball OR the
media - so why did they single out Bonds when they had to
know (even if we didn't) about the other players?
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Harbeas1 year, 10 months ago
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Maybe someday people will quit living their lives through sports figures. For all the athletes who used something other than talent and hard work, to hell with you. We could all be better athletes if we used performance enhancing drugs. Most of us choose not to go that route. The image they are projecting to the youth is unacceptable. They are telling these young impressionable kids that it is ok to take drugs and this is wrong, wrong and wrong.
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schillinfl11 year, 10 months ago
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Bud Selig is a slimeball as is the owners. They are trying to act like they had no idea that players were taking steroids. Bud Selig knew. The owners knew. After the strikes, baseball was in the toilet. As soon as the homeruns starting flying over the fences, the popularity of te sport rose. So the dear old commish and the owners turned a blind eye. Now they are acting as if they didn't know about the "culture of drugs" in the game. They didn't mind when ticket sales were going up, that's for sure.
What a sham.
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Raiderwall1 year, 10 months ago
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In the steroid era ballplayers did some amazing things, set some astounding records, but that's all tainted now. I wonder, in the future, if the steroid records are not broken, if people will look at these freaks with awe for their accomplishments, the sheer numbers they put up, or with disdain for violating the laws of nature, and risking harm to their bodies for the sake of sports glory.
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MyCampingMall1 year, 10 months ago
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If 95% of the players were using steroids or HGH, how could one claim to be cheating? If pitchers are stronger and hitters are stronger, that's a wash. Of course, I'm not convinced that these drugs improve performance that much in baseball and basketball. It obviously is a big help to football players and wrestlers where strenght is the main ingredient. Where it helps a baseball or basketball player in the short run is in recovery from an injury quicker. Of course, it may shorten his life in the long run. It does not help one to see the ball better or speed up the bat swing. For basketball players, bucking up could adversely effect one's ability to be athletic.
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slate1 year, 10 months ago
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I too used to be sport-a-holic, living vicariously through professional sports. Unfortunately, I live in Houston so you know that other than basketball it was about Home Team Spirit than anything. Now days, I'm lucky to feel the need to watch maybe 3-5 games of any of the big three.
What has turned this once zealous fan away?
· I think the first was the baseball strikes in the past.
· The extortion of billionaire owners and millionaire players for a city to build costly stadiums at our own expense for the 'privilege' of having them stay in our city. If you say no thanks, there is nothing wrong with the (still unpaid for) stadium we have now, they walk on you after decades of your support. This would be akin to the local grocer to come into your neighborhood and ask for you to pay for their facility then demand exorbitant prices for their goods because of the 'privilege' of their services.
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slate1 year, 10 months ago
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Then the number crunching came in. It would take 20 years for someone that makes 50K a year to make 1,000,000 dollars in salary. That is one-tenth of what many of these 'talents' make in one season, for essentially playing at the top level of a child's game. Then these people want to charge you to sign a ball, make you pay over 200 dollars to watch them play in person?
· This latest 'steroid' thing is no surprise to most of you here, heck it's been fairly well known for some time now. Even the 'average Joe' could see the bulk these guys have and have a reasonable suspicion of steroid use.
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