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joey-evans
Dec. 13, 2007, 4:42 p.m.Cheaters....one and all.
strike them from any record book and deny any from Hall of Fame consideration.
Once they allow Shoeless Joe Jackson and/or Pete Rose their DESERVED place in the Hall of Fame, then you might consider some of these others.
JOEY EVANS
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tanglang
Dec. 13, 2007, 5:10 p.m.Hey Tech Ex, I could not get the page to load.
Here is a link to the list of all the players who were mentioned in the report.
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amesburyroad
Dec. 13, 2007, 5:20 p.m.Cheaters, frauds, snakes, jocks;.......arrogant stone face swollen drug muscles.
Baseball....what a joke.....and they are still taking Human Growth Hormone because you cannot test for it, so the cheating goes on!!!
And the player's union is outraged.....the jocks just do not get it....
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aceofspades1
Dec. 13, 2007, 5:50 p.m.Just a bunch of drugged up millionaires - they're all over the place - entertainment - (Spears, Iohan etc)
talk radio (Limburger) politics -(pick em) - its the poor schmucks doing street drugs that are doing time - the atheletes & others are just picking our pockets & we're getting chapped lips kissing their asses
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jmopinion
Dec. 13, 2007, 7:21 p.m.They probably destroyed some kids dream by playing in the big leagues by having such an advantage. Look what happened to Marion Jones when she quit taking steroids.
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jmopinion
Dec. 13, 2007, 7:23 p.m.They have already made their millions. Maybe they should have to pay the money back just like Marion Jones.
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mamasan
Dec. 13, 2007, 8:22 p.m.sports have sunk to a new low.
all the guys care about is the money.
Do any of them even love the game anymore?
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BronxBomber
Dec. 13, 2007, 11:16 p.m.Hey misio,Get outta here or I'll take my ballbat & hit you so hard, that you'll have to unzip your pants to say hi!
;o)
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chevydog
Dec. 13, 2007, 9:36 p.m.Don't think I like the use of these chemical things. But the longer I think about it, the more I can't logically say why.
No, I don't like records coming "out of a syringe". Yes, there are often long-term health problems associated with these substances. And I certainly don't like younger athletes emulating any of this use. Most especially if the stuff is illegally obtained.
On the other hand, we tend to glorify athletes who "play hurt". In baseball, this often includes the use of cortisone shots. Perhaps I'm missing something, but all other things being equal is there a moral difference between taking a cortisone shot to play and getting injected with HGH to speed up recovery from a torn muscle? Just where's the line?
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IcCaRus
Dec. 13, 2007, 9:54 p.m.theres a very simple way to eliminate this:
test EVERY player THREE times a year-
opening day of spring training, last game b4 all star break, last day of the season
1st offense - 81 game suspension; forfeit 1/2 that seasons pay
2nd offense - full season suspension, lose whole seasons pay
3rd offense - lifetime ban, name removed from record books, lose eligibility for Hall of Fame.
only exception they should even consider might be HGH,ONLY if prescribed by doctor as part of treatment for an injury...
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ConquerorWyrm
Dec. 14, 2007, 7:19 a.m.WHO CARES?
This is absolutely STUPID!
It is a game. Why is this even news? Does this matter in anyway at all?
Oh sure, some folk like to watch the game, but how does that rank against ANYTHING else that is going on in this world. For even 10 minutes spent on this subject is a waste of time.
Baseball is a game. It serves the same purpose as religion and dandruff...it gives people something to waste their time and money on, nothing more.
Can any one of you out there give me one objective reason as to why this even should make the back page of anything but the sports section?
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harmlessoldman
Dec. 14, 2007, 8:21 a.m.Major League Baseball is becoming the "sport" of the large markets. Its not "playing in Peoria" like it did in the 60's.This whole situation does not deserve the sweat off of my reproductive facilities. The game is ruined and it deserves what it gets. Nothing will change! I will say though, when people break federal drug laws and there is no consequence, then that concerns me. If Julio, Jamal, or Bubba had doen this in the local YMCA how would they be treated? Says a lot doesnt it. That pedistal you folks put these guys on has a tinge of brown on it and it stinks! Let the congregation say AMEN!
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jimdoze
Dec. 14, 2007, 9:04 a.m.This bruhaha illustrates some simple facts. 1. Those who naturally excel as professional athletes are those whose bodies are on the extreme edge of the bell curve of production of "strength enhancing" substances, namely testerone. 2. Those who naturally exhibit longevity in professional sports are those whose bodies are on the extreme edge of the bell curve in the production of "repair and restore" substances, namely human growth hormone. 3. The development of "skill" emanates from a blend of 1 & 2 plus motor coordination and will. Without 1 & 2, the rest won't matter.
Lastly, we stand on the threshold of being able to genetically tweak for 1 & 2. Therefore, I would venture to say that in 25 years, athletics will somehow look very different than it does today.
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Codi6934
Dec. 14, 2007, 10:08 a.m.Are you going to demand that all actors and musicians return there awards for work they did in a heroin induced stooper. NO
So, what is the difference? If you are going to hold one form of entertainment to a standard, then you must hold all to the same.
P*ss test artist signing to a record label, see how many that come up clean.
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AnteUp
Dec. 14, 2007, 10:58 a.m.Someone who really follows baseball, please?
What was it that Bonds did that made it so important
that he PAY for this transgression, more than anyone else?
Did he offend or stiff the sport's press or what?
IMO - they have had a hard-on for Bonds.
This report can't be news to professional baseball OR the
media - so why did they single out Bonds when they had to
know (even if we didn't) about the other players?
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Harbeas
Dec. 14, 2007, 12:19 p.m.Maybe someday people will quit living their lives through sports figures. For all the athletes who used something other than talent and hard work, to hell with you. We could all be better athletes if we used performance enhancing drugs. Most of us choose not to go that route. The image they are projecting to the youth is unacceptable. They are telling these young impressionable kids that it is ok to take drugs and this is wrong, wrong and wrong.
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schillinfl1
Dec. 14, 2007, 1:19 p.m.Bud Selig is a slimeball as is the owners. They are trying to act like they had no idea that players were taking steroids. Bud Selig knew. The owners knew. After the strikes, baseball was in the toilet. As soon as the homeruns starting flying over the fences, the popularity of te sport rose. So the dear old commish and the owners turned a blind eye. Now they are acting as if they didn't know about the "culture of drugs" in the game. They didn't mind when ticket sales were going up, that's for sure.
What a sham.
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Raiderwall
Dec. 14, 2007, 3:36 p.m.In the steroid era ballplayers did some amazing things, set some astounding records, but that's all tainted now. I wonder, in the future, if the steroid records are not broken, if people will look at these freaks with awe for their accomplishments, the sheer numbers they put up, or with disdain for violating the laws of nature, and risking harm to their bodies for the sake of sports glory.
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MyCampingMall
Dec. 15, 2007, 10:54 p.m.If 95% of the players were using steroids or HGH, how could one claim to be cheating? If pitchers are stronger and hitters are stronger, that's a wash. Of course, I'm not convinced that these drugs improve performance that much in baseball and basketball. It obviously is a big help to football players and wrestlers where strenght is the main ingredient. Where it helps a baseball or basketball player in the short run is in recovery from an injury quicker. Of course, it may shorten his life in the long run. It does not help one to see the ball better or speed up the bat swing. For basketball players, bucking up could adversely effect one's ability to be athletic.
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slate
Dec. 16, 2007, 10:48 a.m.I too used to be sport-a-holic, living vicariously through professional sports. Unfortunately, I live in Houston so you know that other than basketball it was about Home Team Spirit than anything. Now days, I'm lucky to feel the need to watch maybe 3-5 games of any of the big three.
What has turned this once zealous fan away?
· I think the first was the baseball strikes in the past.
· The extortion of billionaire owners and millionaire players for a city to build costly stadiums at our own expense for the 'privilege' of having them stay in our city. If you say no thanks, there is nothing wrong with the (still unpaid for) stadium we have now, they walk on you after decades of your support. This would be akin to the local grocer to come into your neighborhood and ask for you to pay for their facility then demand exorbitant prices for their goods because of the 'privilege' of their services.
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