The Christian Fundamentalists Who Support Huckabee »
Posted By Spadecaller 1 year, 6 months ago in NewsMike Huckabee is relying on an the pastors of churches to get out his message today. Pastor Rick Scarborough just hosted a conference call with Iowa pastors to discuss the caucus. Joining him were Dr. Tim LaHaye and Dr. Michael Farris. Who are these Christian Fundamentalists supporting Huckabee and why are they rallying voters?
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Spadecaller1 year, 6 months ago
Pulpits aflame with righteousness are the best counter to a liberal media that is openly hostile to Christianity." Says Rick Scarborough.
"People don't want America to go off into oblivion. They want you to be successful. Because you know what, everybody, infidels and all, will benefit if Christians are successful in returning this nation to moral sanity." Rick Scarborough
Rick Scarborough, Tim LaHaye, and Dr. Michael Farris --supporters of Mike Huckabee are getting the "word" out in Iowa today. The crusaders against pluralism in America are on the march. What kind of America do they want? What if they get it?
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MonkeyBiz1 year, 6 months ago
They are the American Taliban. Our way or the highway, theocracy promoting, anti-American extremists that are more dangerous to America than any muslim terrorist.
The hate filled rhetoric and self righteousness of these freaks is an un-American ugliness that sane, patriotic Christians should do every thing in their power to counter, just as moderate Muslims should do every thing in their power to counter Islamic extremism.
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scriblerus11 year, 6 months ago
Tim LaHaye! That removes all doubt about Huckabee. LaHaye--one of the coauthors of the Left Behind series--is a predator in more ways than one. He is a con artist preying on the ignorant cultural conservatives. LaHaye, like many in the religious right has ties to and has taken money from Sun Myeung Moon of the Moonies--the group that used to brainwash runaway kids into their "communes" back in the 70s and 80s. Moon is an important behind the scenes figure in the Right.
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1-2-Oscar1 year, 6 months ago
You chose to send me a private message referencing this thread. When I responded at some length, my response was rejected (and hence lost) because you do not accept private messages from the general public. If you are unwilling to hear my response, I think that you should not use that medium to make your own points. This evident desire, on your part, to attack others without having to endure their attempts at refutation or self-defense simply reinforces my already low opinion of you.
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DropkickaLib1 year, 6 months ago
Looks like some Lib has been mailing threatening letters to pastors supporting Huckabee in Iowa, fraudulently implying that they will lose their tax exempt status for endorsing him. Anyone here know anything about that? Hhhmmmm...
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mesodude1 year, 6 months ago
"What kind of America do they want? What if they get it?"
--Well their view of what the word "morality" encompasses is extremely narrow so my guess is that they'll continue to do what they've been doing for the last decade or so--allow the GOP to wh0re the planet out to defense contractors and corporations in exchange for the tiniest of incremental steps towards both criminalizing all abortion and preventing a gay couples from getting married and being as miserable as they are .
Oh yeah...Add to that their latest goal--to cleanse America of the millions of horrid brown skinned people who have risked their lives coming here and endured work and living conditions that aren't fit for animals, for the purpose of feeding their families.
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Francisca1 year, 6 months ago
I really don't know what to say: it's frightening because so many people seems to be excluded...It would be unthinkable to see that in Europe NOWADAYS whatever the Religion ( catholic, protestant,judaism, muslim....etc). It would be a "flashback". So dangerous to mix Politic and Religion!!!See what happened with Cardinal de Richelieu or Cardinal Mazarin...of course they realized huge good reforms and laws, but at what price!!Strangely enough for me.
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DropkickaLib1 year, 6 months ago
Have you seen the cars burning in French cities? European Muslims are organizing in a truly frightening way. Being motivated by your religious convictions to operate within the political system is not alarming.
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Dionys1 year, 6 months ago
Absolutely take the non-profit status away from Churches who mix in politics. *However* you absolutely should NOT remove tax-exemption from Churches in general because once you do that, you remove the essential seperation of Church and State. Taxing a Church (or all Churches) then allows for Churches and religion to demand a place in politics. Something I personally do not want to see happen.
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polncorect1 year, 6 months ago
You are a very sad person, midleft. Do you understand that private property is the basis of a free society? Are you a communist? You are talking like a communist.
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Spadecaller1 year, 6 months ago
I welcome a pluralistic America and want to restore that concept to its fullest extent.
I respect the rights of all relgious people, secularists, agnostics, and atheists. I did not submit this article to denounce religion or Christians.
I posted this story becaue there are some fundamentalist Christians who have crossed the line that separates Church and State and who are urging their followers to crusade against pluralism and the constitution of the United States.
And if we can show tolerance for those of us with different belief systems and respectfully object to ideologies rather than to stereotype people of religion, I believe we would be taking the high road.
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crghss1 year, 6 months ago
"who are urging their followers to crusade against pluralism and the constitution of the United States."
You keep preaching this but I fail to see it except in some extreme cases. Sometimes you let your true colors come out and they expose your anti-Christianity stance. Which is fine because people can say and believe what they want. You constantly post articles and make statement against Christianity but then claim "I did not submit this article to to denounce religion or Christians." But that is exactly what you do. Which is fine but at least be honest about it. I have more respect for Daylight and Hyberbola (which you are catching up to) because at least they're upfront and honest about their beliefs.
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RickyDawkins1 year, 6 months ago
"Love the hate...
Makes me all warm and fuzzy all over.
Can't we join hands and get along????
Makes me want to break out and sing Kum By ya..."
-rockman069
http://religion.propeller.com/story/2007/12/28/...
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Spadecaller1 year, 6 months ago
"Yes, religion and politics do mix. America is a nation based on biblical principles. Christian values dominate our government. The test of those values is the Bible. Politicians who do not use the bible to guide their public and private lives do not belong in office." According to Beverly LaHaye, Tim's wife. What a lovely couple.
"God will destroy this earth that is so marred and cursed by Satan's evil."
Tim LaHaye, her husband, can't wait to leave.
I must agree with Mark Twain:
"Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company."
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Shadowolf1 year, 6 months ago
ANYTIME I find Albacore blind-negging me,it is a sign I am right on the money...
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Jaydee401 year, 6 months ago
Are Americans stupid or just plain old hard headed? Forty years ago they were in the midst of an unjust war because the CIA and big money wanted it even though the people mostly didn't. Jump ahead forty years and they repeat the same mistake, have you learnt nothing? Just eight years ago Bush brought religion into the White House and look how that worked out. There should be no question of the Republican party putting a president in office until they have made amends for the current administration and any talk of ones religion should result is the loss of total support for the candidate. To run for office it to serve your fellow man, no person can serve two master, I want a person who serves me and my neighbour, not some might be deity.
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Spadecaller1 year, 6 months ago
About Scarborough:
Rick Scarborough had pushed Senate Republicans to change the rules so that Democrats cannot block President Bush's judicial nominees.
The fight over the judgeships was once a largely academic argument over the constitutionality of the filibuster. But now it is the essence of the cultural war. Scarborough is emblematic of the Christian right leaders who been drawn into politics.
Scarborough and other grass-roots conservative religious leaders believe the federal courts are trouncing Christian values on marriage, abortion and other right-to-life issues raised in the Terri Schiavo case.
While he lacks the name recognition of more prominent religious activists, such as James Dobson of Focus on the Family, Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council and evangelist Pat Robertson, Scarborough is a significant force with close ties to former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Tex.) and other influential Senate conservatives.
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1-2-Oscar1 year, 6 months ago
The legitimacy of our government is derived from the participation of ALL THE PEOPLE. It would be improper for me to seek the exclusion of atheists, Hare Krishnas, Jehovah's Witnesses, or Jews simply because I disagree with their fundamental beliefs. By the same token, it is equally improper for Spadecaller to attempt to marginalize and/or exclude persons who profess to be Christians.
Spadecaller, in his essay, admits that the "offenders" did not mention Huckabee in their message to Iowa congregations, and that they broke no laws. That is as it should be. There is no justification for excluding them.
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DropkickaLib1 year, 6 months ago
The majority of posters here make the erroneous assumption that a pastor gives up his right to have a political viewpoint. That is not so. While he can't legally and shouldn't seek to endorse candidates in the course of a sermon, he has every right to endorse a candidate who represents his moral and religious views.
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Spadecaller1 year, 6 months ago
Ocars personal attacks, though unpleasant and inacurrate, are welcome.
I also demonstate my right to resist individuals who disregard the spirit of the constitution, who openly advocate the destruction of pluralism in America, and who seek to establish a Christian nation in the name of a God, that they believe supports killing, war, and the subjugation of women and their rights.
In addition, Oscar has called on Propeller to ban our right to present our views, because he claims it violates the Terms of Use regarding religion. This is nonsense.
When a an Islamic Fundamentalist of the Taliban calls on a holy war against America or a Christian Fundamentalist calls for excluding secularists, Jews, and conservative Muslims, it should be met with opposition and in the open.
I am exercising that right and fortunately I am not alone.
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simonsez1 year, 6 months ago
The litmus test for fundys is "pro choice".
As long as Roe v Wade stands, it will be the rallying cry that will allow their leaders to deliver votes to the Huckabees of this world.
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tanglang1 year, 6 months ago
Funny you should bring up Nascar seeing as how the democrats told their party members to treat Nascar events the same as traveling to third world countries. They told them in a memo that before attending a Nascar event, that they should get fully inoculated.
How progressive of them.
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Albmore1 year, 6 months ago
I agree. All I have seen is atheist crying the entire time about religion and the canidates. Thats because they are the minority . With 90 percent claiming to be religous YES religion does play a role LIKE IT OR NOT ATHEIST. These Pastors have the same rights to support their canidate as the liberal actors in Hollywood, the pro abortioners, ect.
You can put down these religious leaders all you like. I do not totally agree with all their veiws, but they are just entitled to them as you as Atheist are with your veiws.Do not forget though we live in a political system that is voted on and the MAJORITY wins. Evidently your case against God is not strong enough to convince the masses. So you cry in defeat.
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Bkumm1 year, 6 months ago
We're gaining ground. That means that you're losing ground. And if these "religious leaders" have the right to speak then SO DO WE. And our voices will be heard. We will never again be silent.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 6 months ago
Ultimately I believe Americans would not allow a theocracy, this horseshirt may fly in backwater hodowns among clansmen, those who marry their cousins, and snake kissers speaking in tongues but we got a can o' whoopa$$ ready to open for these clowns if you come to Jersey! I don't imagine that many states have significant enough cretin populations for this to fly.The closest they've come is the Bush appointment and every trick in the book was used. The people with intact cerebellums all know they were duped. They won't be led so easily for an election or 2. Of course you still have your diehard brainwashed followers, but if Church and state are intertwined, Catholics outnumber the other religions so Hail Ceaser! Rome will rise. How do you like dem apples?? No Americans as a whole won't stand for this. It is very bad for government and very bad for religions both.
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