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Posted by: Spadecaller 1 year, 11 months agoMike Huckabee is relying on an the pastors of churches to get out his message today. Pastor Rick Scarborough just hosted a conference call with Iowa pastors to discuss the caucus. Joining him were Dr. Tim LaHaye and Dr. Michael Farris. Who are these Christian Fundamentalists supporting Huckabee and why are they rallying voters?
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Spadecaller
Jan. 3, 2008, 9:10 a.m.Pulpits aflame with righteousness are the best counter to a liberal media that is openly hostile to Christianity." Says Rick Scarborough.
"People don't want America to go off into oblivion. They want you to be successful. Because you know what, everybody, infidels and all, will benefit if Christians are successful in returning this nation to moral sanity." Rick Scarborough
Rick Scarborough, Tim LaHaye, and Dr. Michael Farris --supporters of Mike Huckabee are getting the "word" out in Iowa today. The crusaders against pluralism in America are on the march. What kind of America do they want? What if they get it?
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Francisca
Jan. 3, 2008, 10:07 a.m.I really don't know what to say: it's frightening because so many people seems to be excluded...It would be unthinkable to see that in Europe NOWADAYS whatever the Religion ( catholic, protestant,judaism, muslim....etc). It would be a "flashback". So dangerous to mix Politic and Religion!!!See what happened with Cardinal de Richelieu or Cardinal Mazarin...of course they realized huge good reforms and laws, but at what price!!Strangely enough for me.
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Dionys
Jan. 3, 2008, 11:47 a.m.Absolutely take the non-profit status away from Churches who mix in politics. *However* you absolutely should NOT remove tax-exemption from Churches in general because once you do that, you remove the essential seperation of Church and State. Taxing a Church (or all Churches) then allows for Churches and religion to demand a place in politics. Something I personally do not want to see happen.
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polncorect
Jan. 4, 2008, 1:04 a.m.You are a very sad person, midleft. Do you understand that private property is the basis of a free society? Are you a communist? You are talking like a communist.
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Spadecaller
Jan. 3, 2008, 10:56 a.m.I welcome a pluralistic America and want to restore that concept to its fullest extent.
I respect the rights of all relgious people, secularists, agnostics, and atheists. I did not submit this article to denounce religion or Christians.
I posted this story becaue there are some fundamentalist Christians who have crossed the line that separates Church and State and who are urging their followers to crusade against pluralism and the constitution of the United States.
And if we can show tolerance for those of us with different belief systems and respectfully object to ideologies rather than to stereotype people of religion, I believe we would be taking the high road.
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RickyDawkins
Jan. 3, 2008, 11:20 a.m."Love the hate...
Makes me all warm and fuzzy all over.
Can't we join hands and get along????
Makes me want to break out and sing Kum By ya..."
-rockman069
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Spadecaller
Jan. 3, 2008, 11:43 a.m."Yes, religion and politics do mix. America is a nation based on biblical principles. Christian values dominate our government. The test of those values is the Bible. Politicians who do not use the bible to guide their public and private lives do not belong in office." According to Beverly LaHaye, Tim's wife. What a lovely couple.
"God will destroy this earth that is so marred and cursed by Satan's evil."
Tim LaHaye, her husband, can't wait to leave.
I must agree with Mark Twain:
"Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company."
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Shadowolf
Jan. 3, 2008, 12:26 p.m.I really hope to see Jesus confronting those who did (AND DO) evil in His name...my money is on the hypocrite choir crying "We didn't know you're really real!!!"
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Jaydee40
Jan. 3, 2008, 12:30 p.m.Are Americans stupid or just plain old hard headed? Forty years ago they were in the midst of an unjust war because the CIA and big money wanted it even though the people mostly didn't. Jump ahead forty years and they repeat the same mistake, have you learnt nothing? Just eight years ago Bush brought religion into the White House and look how that worked out. There should be no question of the Republican party putting a president in office until they have made amends for the current administration and any talk of ones religion should result is the loss of total support for the candidate. To run for office it to serve your fellow man, no person can serve two master, I want a person who serves me and my neighbour, not some might be deity.
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Spadecaller
Jan. 3, 2008, 12:37 p.m.About Scarborough:
Rick Scarborough had pushed Senate Republicans to change the rules so that Democrats cannot block President Bush's judicial nominees.
The fight over the judgeships was once a largely academic argument over the constitutionality of the filibuster. But now it is the essence of the cultural war. Scarborough is emblematic of the Christian right leaders who been drawn into politics.
Scarborough and other grass-roots conservative religious leaders believe the federal courts are trouncing Christian values on marriage, abortion and other right-to-life issues raised in the Terri Schiavo case.
While he lacks the name recognition of more prominent religious activists, such as James Dobson of Focus on the Family, Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council and evangelist Pat Robertson, Scarborough is a significant force with close ties to former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Tex.) and other influential Senate conservatives.
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1-2-Oscar
Jan. 3, 2008, 12:38 p.m.The legitimacy of our government is derived from the participation of ALL THE PEOPLE. It would be improper for me to seek the exclusion of atheists, Hare Krishnas, Jehovah's Witnesses, or Jews simply because I disagree with their fundamental beliefs. By the same token, it is equally improper for Spadecaller to attempt to marginalize and/or exclude persons who profess to be Christians.
Spadecaller, in his essay, admits that the "offenders" did not mention Huckabee in their message to Iowa congregations, and that they broke no laws. That is as it should be. There is no justification for excluding them.
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Spadecaller
Jan. 3, 2008, 1:01 p.m.Ocars personal attacks, though unpleasant and inacurrate, are welcome.
I also demonstate my right to resist individuals who disregard the spirit of the constitution, who openly advocate the destruction of pluralism in America, and who seek to establish a Christian nation in the name of a God, that they believe supports killing, war, and the subjugation of women and their rights.
In addition, Oscar has called on Propeller to ban our right to present our views, because he claims it violates the Terms of Use regarding religion. This is nonsense.
When a an Islamic Fundamentalist of the Taliban calls on a holy war against America or a Christian Fundamentalist calls for excluding secularists, Jews, and conservative Muslims, it should be met with opposition and in the open.
I am exercising that right and fortunately I am not alone.
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simonsez
Jan. 3, 2008, 1:08 p.m.The litmus test for fundys is "pro choice".
As long as Roe v Wade stands, it will be the rallying cry that will allow their leaders to deliver votes to the Huckabees of this world.
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crghss
Jan. 3, 2008, 1:15 p.m."Rich people are chosen by god to rule. Pathological brainwashing by the entirely right wing owned media."
That has to be one of the funnest things I've ever read on nutscape.
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tanglang
Jan. 3, 2008, 5:36 p.m.Funny you should bring up Nascar seeing as how the democrats told their party members to treat Nascar events the same as traveling to third world countries. They told them in a memo that before attending a Nascar event, that they should get fully inoculated.
How progressive of them.
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Albmore
Jan. 3, 2008, 1:15 p.m.I agree. All I have seen is atheist crying the entire time about religion and the canidates. Thats because they are the minority . With 90 percent claiming to be religous YES religion does play a role LIKE IT OR NOT ATHEIST. These Pastors have the same rights to support their canidate as the liberal actors in Hollywood, the pro abortioners, ect.
You can put down these religious leaders all you like. I do not totally agree with all their veiws, but they are just entitled to them as you as Atheist are with your veiws.Do not forget though we live in a political system that is voted on and the MAJORITY wins. Evidently your case against God is not strong enough to convince the masses. So you cry in defeat.
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Radiofreeeuropa
Jan. 3, 2008, 2:09 p.m.Ultimately I believe Americans would not allow a theocracy, this horseshirt may fly in backwater hodowns among clansmen, those who marry their cousins, and snake kissers speaking in tongues but we got a can o' whoopa$$ ready to open for these clowns if you come to Jersey! I don't imagine that many states have significant enough cretin populations for this to fly.The closest they've come is the Bush appointment and every trick in the book was used. The people with intact cerebellums all know they were duped. They won't be led so easily for an election or 2. Of course you still have your diehard brainwashed followers, but if Church and state are intertwined, Catholics outnumber the other religions so Hail Ceaser! Rome will rise. How do you like dem apples?? No Americans as a whole won't stand for this. It is very bad for government and very bad for religions both.
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