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HR Res 888 purports to support "education on America's history of religious faith." Editorial presents selected videos in support of legislation and against. Included in the article is a sample email calling on lawmakers to oppose the legislation on the grounds that it crosses the line respecting separation of church and state.

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Spadecaller
Jan. 5, 2008, 7:41 p.m.
Should any politician place their personal and religious affiliations above their oath of office, they are not fit to serve; and it is up to the electorate to prevent their re-election.
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scott4261
Jan. 5, 2008, 7:53 p.m.
I will repeat what I stated in the other thread:
One of the great features of the great American experiment is that we are free to believe - or not believe - whatever we want.
This resolution ignores the pluralism that is truly American. Period.
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Spadecaller
Jan. 5, 2008, 8:30 p.m.
BTW: I submitted the Email note posted on the site and sent it to my representative. I certainly have no right asking anyone else to do what I, myself, have not done.
For those of us who want to take action and exercise our rights, you can simply paste the email and send it to your representative. The link to contact your rep is also provided on the webpage. Of course, you can also rewrite and submit your own message.
And of course, anyone is free to oppose my position and post those comments here, as well. :~)
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icono1
Jan. 5, 2008, 9:10 p.m.
Well what kind of politician or person is the "right kind of Christian" to get elected? Do we now have Christians that are more perfect than other Christians because of type of Church affiliation, ie are Southern Baptists more Christian than Methodists or Catholics etc, or is there a predetermined genetic disposition to become the "right kind of Christian" which naturally enables one, in a Darwinistic sense, to become a politician or a president?
Thanks Spade. I will contact my rep..ASAP.
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2sidestoeverything
Jan. 6, 2008, 12:36 a.m.
Spade thanks for the head up on this I will be contacting my representative to defeat this bill. America is a melting pot of all kinds of people some who believe and some who do not. We are taking a giant step backwards here.
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Itachirumon
Jan. 6, 2008, 1:15 a.m.
Yea this is pretty wacko, we must stop these nutcases from revising reality!
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Spadecaller
Jan. 6, 2008, 2:01 a.m.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."
Today is the best day to demand the restoration of the constitution for which this government must rely upon to survive or for which this government must fall by the wayside, should it fail to exist for the people and by the people.
"That whenever any form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
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Spadecaller
Jan. 6, 2008, 2:32 a.m.
If we hold these principles to be true, then we must petition the government that has fallen into the hands of special interests groups and elitists. It is become a self-evident truth that the ruling bureacracy has recruited our federal workers from all branches of the govenrment, abandoned their oaths of office, and are currently delinquent in their duties of serving the people.
Without the consent of the people, it is the right and the obligation of the people "to abolish it, and institute new government,laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
For that reason, I have petitioned this government and have called on you, partisans and nonpartisans, religionists or secularists, to do the same.
Keep our nation free from religious tryanny and religion free from political corruption.
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Spadecaller
Jan. 6, 2008, 10:05 a.m.
"If we cannot end now our differences, at least we can help make the world safe for diversity."
John F. Kennedy
Diversity in America is more at risk than ever before.
Let your representative know what you think!
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Spadecaller
Jan. 6, 2008, 10:16 a.m.
When zealots and extremist ideologues take the actions to participate in government and we stand by silently, we should expect that pluralism in America would eventually disappear. It's up to you to make a difference.
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Searchbeam
Jan. 6, 2008, 11:08 a.m.
Keep God in your heart, your religion in your place of worship, and your atheism in your personal sanctuary!
Let the country be governed by the Constitution and the laws that RESPECT and abide by the Constitution!
My reps will be hearing from me very soon!
Thanks for the heads up, Spade!
BTW, you are welcome to copy and email my post " Taking Back Our Country",
http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/01/05/...
Thanks for keeping the flame burning!
Peace and Blessings!
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Spadecaller
Jan. 6, 2008, 11:21 a.m.
Thanks searchbeam.
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Searchbeam
Jan. 6, 2008, 11:24 a.m.
If people want Bible to be the driving force of their lives, they can do that in the privacy of their homes and in the sanctity of their churches. If you want to teach Bible to your children, do that in those places, and NOT in the schools!
As it is, we have fallen to the 26th place in the world in the quality of our education. We do not need another handicap to pull our children down even further.
Schools and legislative bodies are not the vehicles of any particular religion. Our Founding Fathers knew that very well, looking at what the Monarch being the Head of their Church did to the nation of England, and the wars, atrocities and torture it performed, including slavery.
You can choose to run your life based on faith that does not need logic as its cornerstone. When it comes to governing our nation, including our Judiciary, logic is, should and will be the cornerstone! There is no "if", "but" and "nevertheless" about it.
Peace and Blessings!
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Searchbeam
Jan. 6, 2008, 11:45 a.m.
Here is something else we can do:
We can alert our Senators that if this house resolution 888 ever passes the house and comes to the Senate for passage, they should REJECT IT!
Here is a sample email for sending to your Senators:
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Itachirumon
Jan. 6, 2008, 4:07 p.m.
"What a joke. Spadecaller is obviously ignorant of the myriad of truths within our history. He must be another of those types that hates to speak of God. Does anyone believe spadecaller?"
Sorry that I'm about 35 comments too late, I've been asleep, Saint Joseph gave his name to one helluva city!
Anyway I'm just gonna say simply, that I believe him. These people are monsters and they bastardize Christianity into something lesser than it is or should be. I wonder as I sit here, if these people even CARE about the fact that there are other religions out there that deserve equal representation. Whether they believe they are right or not shouldn't matter, if they're gonna teach Christian history affecting our country, then I want to hear how Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist Shinto, Taoist and Wiccan ALSO affected our country. But oh NO you won't hear them talk about that now will you, because they are "right"
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hyperbola
Jan. 6, 2008, 4:14 p.m.
Why repeat mistakes we have already outgrown.
Religion and Nationalism: A Dangerous Mix Throughout History
... In his autobiography, Thomas Jefferson, discussing the early days of colonial Virginia shows how making any religion "official," tends to corrupt religion and its spiritual role in society: "As soon as the state of the colony admitted, it was divided into parishes, in each of which was established a minister of the Anglican church, endowed with a fixed salary, in tobacco, a glebe house and land with other necessary appendages. To meet these expenses, all the inhabitants of the parishes were assessed, whether they were or not members of the established church. Towards Quakers who came here, they were most cruelly intolerant, driving them from the colony by the gravest penalties.
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ChefEOD
Jan. 6, 2008, 4:35 p.m.
Thanks for the alert Spade, this one had slipped by me. I have already been on the phone, sending emails, etc and getting friends & family alerted to this bill, even telling as many as possible in church this morning and doing what we need to get it pushed through.
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Howtogo
Jan. 6, 2008, 6:11 p.m.
Already contacted my Representatives & Senators to vote yes on HR 888. Thanks Daily KOS for the information.
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Helixbuilder
Jan. 7, 2008, 12:01 a.m.
This is a joke, right?
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getreal1
Jan. 7, 2008, 10:41 a.m.
The Christian religion is not the only religion in America. It is really sad to think that some people always think their concept of God is the most supreme. America cannot stay a free nation if the people had to worship the same concept of God. No one on this earth knows what the creator looks like or any thing of him. We only have what man has written with too many centuries past for it to be always reliable. There fore he is described as nature's God. To be fair about teaching the bible in school we must also teach to other 99 thousand religions as well. Religion has become a money making Enterprise, like a corporation. Did not Jesus chased the money changers out of the temple?
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getreal1
Jan. 7, 2008, 12:06 p.m.
Let me rephrase this. We only have what has been written by man's hand with too many centuries gone by for it to be reliable. Therefore, God is described as nature's God in the constitution. to be fair about teaching the bible in public school we would have to teach the other 99 thousand religions as well. Religion, has become a money making enterprise, like a corporation. Did not Jesus, chase the money changers out of the temple?