Clinton Upsets Obama in NH; McCain Wins »
Posted By david_nwpa 1 year, 5 months ago in NewsSen. Hillary Rodham Clinton won New Hampshire's Democratic primary Tuesday night in a startling upset, defeating Sen. Barack Obama and resurrecting her bid for the White House. Sen. John McCain powered past his Republican rivals and back into contention for the GOP nomination.
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vor1 year, 5 months ago
"So much for Obama media hype."
One of many just idiotic comments we would expect this morning. I am even beginning to see Republicans openly root for Hillary.
But to say Obama failed to live up to expectations is pure media hype as well. He was like 20 points down in New Hampshire prior to Iowa. And the crowds that came out last week were no illusion. We will have change, change is absolutely necessary and Hillary is not the candidate of change. Edwards is done, even in SC he will not win. Eventually he will put his support behind one of the other candidates and that should decide things for good. That is much more likely to be Obama. Oh sure we hear the rhetoric that he will fight to the end but that is nothing new. He could be out in a few weeks. Maybe end up back in the VP slot.
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jordan111 year, 5 months ago
After watching this, I'm not going to say anything about who will take the presidency, lol But if this doesn't show people who don't bother to vote that they DO have the power of politicians, nothing will.
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scott42611 year, 5 months ago
David,
First, I join you in congratulating those who support John McCain and Hillary Clinton. But with due respect, I vehemently disagree that Barack Obama could not take the presidency. I have looked at this race from all angles (and I'll admit that I have been able to predict this race about as accurately as the the pundits have - which is to say I haven't been able to predict accurately), but here goes:
Hillary Clinton had great organization on the ground in NH and it worked to her benefit. We still have Michigan, Nevada, South Carolina, and Florida to go before February 5th. How these races will turn out is anybody's guess.
I will say this: If McCain is the GOP nominee and Hillary the Democrat, Hillary loses in November. If Obama is the Democratic nominee, McCain loses. Why? Because, Obama is activating young America to vote more than any other candidate since John F. Kennedy. And unlike the 1960 vote, those 18-20 can vote in 2008. This could make a huge difference.
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jordan111 year, 5 months ago
This is fun, if nothing else. We still have no idea who it will be on either side. Looks like Americans aren't going to make this easy on the politicians. Well, turn about IS fair play, I'm told, I wish I were a fly on the wall, watching both party headquarters trying to figure this out.
McCain's lead was a good one. Not close at all. But Clinton only took Obama by two points, & that is close. How refreshing though, to see a black man and a woman in a close race like this. Never thought I'd live to see this day. Amazing. Just amazing! I look forward to next Tuesday, for sure. Maybe Edwards will upset them both. Who knows.
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david_nwpa1 year, 5 months ago
Onward to Michigan and South Carolina. Democracy lives in the United States. We could have legitimate conventions this summer, instead of a sleeper.
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TimALoftis1 year, 5 months ago
Senator Clinton showed New Hampshire and the country that she is indeed a fighter. Women turned out in droves and overwhelmingly voted for her..something that they did not do in Iowa. The media/talk radio making fun of Hillary's emotional moment on Monday ended up helping her as well.
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FSU92grad1 year, 5 months ago
I must say Hiliary did look a little "human" tonight....She's still a Socialist and I do not like her policies nor her liberal side, but at least I saw some sense of humility and glee from a woman that is commonly glum and somtimes fake
I do hope the American people vote for someone not because of their genitalia or color of their skin...Certainly don't vote for "Anyone but Bush", but really look at each candidate seriously regardless of political affiliation and really put them under scrutiny...Vote for the best LEADER...Not the one with the best smile or most personable..>Those things are great, but they're not the qualities that make up a great leader..Whether that be male or female, Democrat or Republican, liberal or conservative, vote for the one that you feel will get the job done...
I know I will...
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Spadecaller1 year, 5 months ago
Regardless of which candidate any of you support, the victory at this moment in time is with the people.
The nation's voice for change is being reflected by Clinton and Obama. This is not coming from a partisan, because I haven't been enamored with either parties.
I make this comment simply because mainstream media tried to manipulate the people of Iowa and New Hampshire, but this time they failed.
Americans have won a battle. The media must sit back in their seats humbled by the fact that the people ultimately are the ones who retain the right of choice, as it is supposed to be.
While Hillary Clinton is not my preferred choice, I must applaud her victory. Though many mainstream pundants have already claimed that Obama was the loser. I disagree.
Obama's run in New Hampshire was reflective of an inspired electorate, who are also dedicated to real change.
Congratulations America for waking up. It's about time!
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cushi1 year, 5 months ago
Bravo, SC, you are on point. The media needs to back the heck off and let the people decide these things for themselves.
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mmrhe1 year, 5 months ago
Did anyone see McCains victory speech? Terrible...They're ripping on him on MSNBC
PS: Hillary's wasn't great either. HELLO...SPEECH COACH!
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david_nwpa1 year, 5 months ago
Funny you mention that, because CNN was praising McCain all evening. Furthermore, I noticed tonight how long it took CNN and MSNBC to make their call for Senator Clinton. They needed way over 70% of the votes before making a projection. However, Senator Clinton held her lead all evening. All the pundits and pollsters kept talking about her having an impressive second place finish, but she never fell behind. They were all wrong. Perhaps they should take jobs forecasting lake effect snow storms off of Lake Erie!
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mmrhe1 year, 5 months ago
Please God not another President who butchers the language and makes us look like a nation of Homer Simpsons!
Amen...!
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NelsonR1 year, 5 months ago
Hillary has received more political donations then most. From Insurance companies, Drug companies, Special interest groups, Lobbyist and more, now do you fail to grasp one simple fact, if elected it's pay back time. Who do you think she will represent, you? if you think yes you should go live with Alice in Wonderland. Why do party hacks vote party lines, jobs and favors that in the end comes, again out of your pocket.
Our corrupt political system remains in tune with reality.
Republicans are elated since now they have a chance at winning against the divider. Cry some more Hillary the dolts fell for it. You deserve an Oscar and Emmy combined.
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lovemylibs1 year, 5 months ago
"Who do you think she will represent, you?"
Why, Hillary represents hope and democracy, Nellie. You can see it in her eyes. And I'll bet you that Republicans are not so much elated as they feel like Hillary did last night. Except their tears probably sting and are wetter.
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Xaos1 year, 5 months ago
I have to agree with you NelsonR, she is not the candidate of change but more like the candidate that represents more of the same. About the only ones who will see real benefit in Hillary being president are big business and globalist. Sad to say, that also sums up most of the other candidates too.
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NoWayMan1 year, 5 months ago
Its like saying everyone with the last name Bush must be incompetent at their job.
ie: Reggie Bush is incompetent as a running back in the NFL.
now do you get ani's logic?
its like racism, only with names.
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NelsonR1 year, 5 months ago
Between McCain and Hillary, independents will be drawn to McCain and the Dems would have accomplished their usual understanding of the electorate and lost again.
Hate this war, hate the illegal immigrants but like myself independents will never accept Hillary. Realistic, pragmatic and that's the way it is. If its Hillary McCain will be the President. At least he has ethics and is willing to speak his mind regardless of the outcome.
The song "Crying in the chapel" comes to mind with the new insertion to the song, "Crying in the chapel on my way to the White House".
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tchef1 year, 5 months ago
I may be inclined to support McCain over Hillary. I used to like him until he took it in the posterior for George. Still I see Hillary as a phony who will say and do anything to win.
I am however very apprehensive about giving another Republican control, after Bush we really need a change in direction.
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nostalgia1 year, 5 months ago
NelsonR
We agree on many things but I must draw the line at "At least he has ethics"
Remember the Keating Five scandal from 1989?
How many times did McCain meet with lobbyist Jack Abramoff?
McCain still supports his campaign finance reform bill (McCain-Feingold) It gave us the current fiasco in campaign financing. That bill simply discarded what were once considered constitutional rights of free speech and political association. It is not that these rights have vanished - they are no longer constitutional guarantees. They're governed by limits and qualifications imposed by Congress, the courts, state legislatures, regulatory agencies -- and lawyers' interpretations of all of the above.
His support of the immigration bill also angered many conservatives.
He may draw support from independents but many conservatives will have to wear a mask AND hold their noses to vote for him
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scriblerus11 year, 5 months ago
The real story here is that the Clintons did a brilliant job of managing expectations. They leaked that Hillary would probably lose by 12 to 15 percent. This energized Hillary's supporters. Moreover, voters leaning toward Obama but comfortable that he would win anyway then decided to vote for Edwards or McCain.
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StarLord1 year, 5 months ago
Having read Clinton's Foreign Policy Manifesto, I am at least somewhat impressed. Found here:
http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20071101faessay86...
Interesting reading.
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NoWayMan1 year, 5 months ago
if hillary's tears really helped her, and she only won by 2%, then she's in big trouble. whats she gonna do, cry in every state?
edwards should take SC but its his home state. I like him but he's fading as people begin to choose between obama and edwards to take on hillary.
so obama still has the edge.
everyone I know is voting for him.
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Albmore1 year, 5 months ago
Although I figured Hillary would win somewhere, this only goes to show the Democrats are still not about change. There are still many who will vote for the old Clinton status quo.
Hillary on health care? How much money do you think she is being supported with from Medical companies?
The media to hard on her as BILLY BOY was saying- Well answer this question Billy Boy. IS THERE ANY CANIDATE OR ANYONE COVERING THE ELECTION THAT COULD HUMILIATE; SHOW LITTLE RESPECT FOR OR DIGRACE HILLARY AS YOU DID HAVE WHILE LIVING OFF OUR TAX DOLLARS AND IN OUR WHITE HOUSE?
If the Democrats are so dumb to bring Hillary as their canidate then they deserve to lose and should keep their mouths shut for the next 4 years.
As a republican I would consider supporting Obama but I would NEVER vote these two liars back into the white house.
How can the voters be so off to yell for CHANGE and then bring the old back in.
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