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    djn3nunez31 year, 10 months ago

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    So how is the hunt for the Iraqi weapons of mass destruction going? Have they found the mobile chemical production plants yet? How about those massive stock piles of Chemical and biological weapons that the administration knew where theyt were, have they been found yet, or was that just a pack of lies to lead you guys head long over the clif.... um, er.. head long into the invasion and occupation of an oil rich arab nation that did not attack us? What about the flowers.....

    Nobody knows how many Iraqis have lost their lives because they don't count them.

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      bobo-in-texas1 year, 10 months ago

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      DJ, why don't you stick to commenting on the story at hand. I know that it's painful to accept the news that The Lancet numbers are a fraud but when even the UN doesn't agree with you, you need to accept the truth.

      BTW, I'm interested to know why it's a bad thing that hundreds of thousands of previously claimed dead Iraqis are indeed very much alive?

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        Candida1 year, 10 months ago

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        No, it's not a bad thing if hundreds of thousands of Iraqis believed to be dead are alive, but it is a bad thing that nobody really counts the dead, as if they weren't even human beings.

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          IcCaRus1 year, 10 months ago

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          part of the problem is that both the US and Iraqi govts are NOT cooperating. doing their best to NOT allow an accurate count....

          this president and his administration are a disgrace. they make good, honest, hardworking people ashamed of their own country!

          you cons will read that and say "hes a liberal, he'll hate any Rep Pres" ... you would be wrong! yes, im a Liberal, but i DONT hate all things Republican... i voted against Reagan, but ya know what? Ron made me PROUD to be an american! Duh-bya couldnt hold Reagans strap on his BEST day!

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          djn3nunez31 year, 10 months ago

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          Because all the death in Iraq, US and Iraqi citizens, regardless of the actual numbers of Iraqis killed, were all killed because of the lies from the Bush administration used about Iraqs WMD and the threat they posed to the world. The previous poster mentioned how much the left supposedly likes lies and liars. I just wanted to point out the lies that got us in this mess in the first place.

          BTW bobo I always believed the numbers in that report were exaggerated.

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            TOD3961 year, 10 months ago

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            DJ, what about the mass extermination that Saddam was doing prior to the invasion? Wasn't Saddam responsible for thousands of Iraqi's being systematically eliminated? Wasn't that one of the reasons he was removed from power?

            If Saddam was killing thousands of Iraqis, and we stopped Saddam, where do you get the position that these civilians wouldn't have died if Bush wasn't there?

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              pcknowledge1 year, 10 months ago

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              Insane logic. So it doesn't matter if Saddam killed Iraqis or this Bush led war did. First off, we don't know how many Saddam was killing. Saddam was killing those who opposed him, not random civilians. Second, the Iraqis where free to leave the country when Saddam was in power. Third, if Bush's only goal was to have Saddam killed, he could have had Saddam killed by our special forces. Saddam's whereabouts where known to the whole world. Removing Saddam didn't require such a "shock & awe" war operation. Fourth, this war killed many civilians, children & young adults who would have had children of their own. Fifth, this war is not over yet. Many Iraqis continue to die on a daily basis. Sixth, the after effects of war in Iraq will be terrible.

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                bobo-in-texas1 year, 10 months ago

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                It's sad to see someone who is so ill informed and so full of self-hatred.

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                  Candida1 year, 10 months ago

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                  Could you expand on that? In what way is he ill informed? What is the correct information?

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                    IcCaRus1 year, 10 months ago

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                    no he cant expand, its just a meaningless canned answer meant to deflect the argumenmt.

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                      bobo-in-texas1 year, 10 months ago

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                      I tried to post a detailed, and long, response twice and Netscape ate my answer. I'll try again when perhaps it's acting better.

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                        dissent1 year, 10 months ago

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                        uh huh

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                  djn3nunez31 year, 10 months ago

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                  Saddam may have been a brutal and repressive dictator (with I might add, support from Ronnie Raygun and the first President Bush), however, there was stability in Iraq. Normal citizens could go about their everyday business without fear of being caught in the crossfire in the ongoing civil war, (or being mowed down by a Blackwater convoy). Iraq was a secular nation and was not part of the Radical Islamic movement(like Iran). Women enjoyed more rights there than in any other Arab nation.

                  I have to agree with ybdog's previous post...

                  "the "Left" does not find the Lancet study to be "more believable." The "Left" recognizes that both studies have flaws and that the true number will likely not be known for years to come"

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                    Candida1 year, 10 months ago

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                    djn3nunez3: "Women enjoyed more rights there than in any other Arab nation."

                    Yes, rights that they have either already lost or are gradually losing now.

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                      bobo-in-texas1 year, 10 months ago

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                      "Saddam may have been a brutal and repressive dictator however, there was stability in Iraq."

                      Insert Hitler, Stalin or Mao and the same statement is true.

                      Is stability your gold standard?

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                        schillinfl11 year, 10 months ago

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                        Funny how everytime a liberal mentions Saddam and his past it always follows with a "but".....EVERYTIME.

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                      mesodude1 year, 10 months ago

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                      "If Saddam was killing thousands of Iraqis, and we stopped Saddam, where do you get the position that these civilians wouldn't have died if Bush wasn't there?"

                      Perhaps one reason is because al qaeda wasn't in Iraq blowing up people by the thousands each year and millions of people weren't fleeing the country to escape our bombs until we got the brilliant idea to illegally invade that country.

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                        bobo-in-texas1 year, 10 months ago

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                        Meso, you really shouldn't spread lies like the invasion of Iraq was illegal.

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                          mesodude1 year, 10 months ago

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                          I'm not spreading anything. It's common knowledge--across the globe.

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                            schillinfl11 year, 10 months ago

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                            So where are the trials?

                            Lies buddy.

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                    bill-smith1 year, 10 months ago

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                    "why don't you stick to commenting on the story at hand".

                    Yeah, BoBo, that's rich coming from you and your cohort!

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                      bill-smith1 year, 10 months ago

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                      What's the matter BoBo, does the truth hurt?

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                        bobo-in-texas1 year, 10 months ago

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                        Yes it can but it's notably absent in your comments above.

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                      Daylight1 year, 10 months ago

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                      BOBO in Texas

                      BTW, I'm interested to know why it's a bad thing that hundreds of thousands of previously claimed

                      Yeah, they will be alive on the Day of Judgment or if you take Bush and those who started and continuing the war to the war crime court the truth will come out or it will be buried along with the dead Iraqis and the dead American soldiers.

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                      Daylight1 year, 10 months ago

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                      djn3nunez3

                      The truth is they are still looking for it but they have certainly found a couple of new oil wells.

                      (Nobody knows how many Iraqis have lost their lives because they don't count them.)

                      Of course it is known only to God and those who are involved in the war.

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                        bobo-in-texas1 year, 10 months ago

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                        It makes sense that Allah would know since most of the dead Iraqi civilians were killed in his name.

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                          dissent1 year, 10 months ago

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                          We all know we'd never kill anyone in our name and even if we did we'd never admit it. That's why we need loyalists, like you boo boo, who deny it to the end even if it does become really painfully obvious and, well ya know, kind of embarassing.

                          That's coz our Mega Huge Industrial War Machine Bohemoth - with a budget that is so big, so humungously huge, gosh, we're all really impressed down here, I can tell you - couldn't have had anything to do with it coz they've been tip-toeing around trying not to offend anyone, saying excuse me and please and thank you very much, handing out lots and lots of fluffy toys (that's what the budget is for) and all the Iraqis really really luv 'em, right, boo boo?

                          And that's a much nicer story too, don't you think boo boo?

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