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saintetienne1 year, 10 months ago
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"Let it go! Do you suffer from BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome) too?"
Yes, he does. It's chronic amongst Liberals, Baby boomers, the "poor", the homeless, or the otherwise whiny, useless dregs of society - blame Bush for EVERYTHING, because it's much easier to point fingers at someone else instead of examining your own miserable, worthless, go-nowhere life.
A year from now we'll be getting a new president, and they'll all just transfer their negative energy over to that person, whomever it is. If it's Hillary or Obama, they'll be happy for a while, buoyed by the empty promises those two yap on about, until, like usual, their lives go nowhere, no matter WHO is in office. Then they'll start complaining and criticizing THEM.
It's a never-ending cycle with these people. Blame the president, blame the government, blame the American public, blame ANYONE but themselves. But when it comes time to taking some responsibility and DOING something?
(crickets)
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eugenegerard1 year, 10 months ago
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The Bush Crime Family has destroyed the Constitution and Bill of Rights of this country. It has lied to get into an illegal war. It is responsible for the deaths of over 4,000 GIs, 60,000 mutilated GIs and hundreds of thousands of dead and mutilated innocent Iraqis. It has spread DU all over the MidEast and has crippled the economy of the US.
You sir are the deranged party.
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saintetienne1 year, 10 months ago
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eugeneretard,
Would you mind telling me how/where/when the "Bush Crime family destroyed the Constitution and Bill of Rights"? Last I checked, these documents were still in place, still being followed, and still a shining example for most of the other putrid thug caucuses that pass for governments in the rest of the world.
"lied to get into an illegal war"? The Bush administration was presented evidence and information, made their decision, and was backed by many Democrats including your goddess, Hillary.
"responsible for 4000 GI deaths, 60,000 mutilated GIs and hundreds of thousands of dead and mutilated innocent Iraqis"? You've got that backwards. The Taliban, insurgent rebels and religious nuts are responsible for those deaths.
"crippled the economy of the U.S."? Not here. My stocks are up, inflation remains down, trade is robust, employment is low....
What's wrong with YOUR life?
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eugenegerard1 year, 10 months ago
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The Patriot Act, The Military Commissions Act and hundreds of presidential orders giving him dictatorial powers. The only problem with being a dictator is peoples willingness to abide by his edicts.
Inflation has not been reported for a couple of years. The Federal Reserve has been cooking the numbers. Why do you think everything costs more.
Your stocks are being propped up by printing dollars. Have you noticed countries all over the world dumping dollars? Of course not. You are a sheeple. Keep believing the kool-Aid.
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saintetienne1 year, 10 months ago
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"The Patriot Act, The Military Commissions Act and hundreds of presidential orders giving him dictatorial powers."
NONE of which affect me, a legal, law-abiding, hard-working, tax-paying American citizen. The Patriot Act, the Military Commissions Act and "hundreds of presidential orders" are directed at illegals, law-breakers, terrorists and suspect people who should NOT be in the U.S. in the first place.
"Why do you think everything costs more"
WHAT? WHERE? I'm paying virtually the same amount of money for groceries, clothing, electricity, phone service, etc. as I was five years ago. Sure, gas costs more, but I don't pay for that - I ride public transportation. If you had any sense, you'd cut back on YOUR oil consumption, too. But you won't. You Libs scream the loudest about oil conservation, yet do NOTHING about it personally.
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SpazMat1 year, 10 months ago
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I was with you until you said "a legal, law-abiding, hard-working, tax-paying American citizen".
Padilla is an American citizen who, whith out being convicted, was denied his freedom, habeas corpus, the right to a speedy trial, you name it.
The constitution is not just for the protection of people like you, it is for the protection of all.
Just for grits and shins, assume you are innocent, and Bush does not know it. Or does not care. Or thinks yo will confess with enough 'help'.
When you have to be "a legal, law-abiding, hard-working, tax-paying American citizen" for the constitution to work for you, you are already screwed, you just don't realize it yet.
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Endoscopy1 year, 10 months ago
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SpazMat here is an update
Jose Padilla (born October 18, 1970), also known as Abdullah al-Muhajir or Muhajir Abdullah, is a United States citizen convicted of aiding terrorists. Padilla was arrested in Chicago on May 8, 2002, and was detained as a material witness until June 9, 2002, when President Bush designated him an illegal enemy combatant and transferred him to a military prison, arguing that he was thereby not entitled to trial in civilian courts. However, on January 3, 2006, he was transferred to a Miami, Florida, jail to face criminal conspiracy charges. Jose Padilla was found guilty of all charges against him on August 16, 2007, by a federal jury, which found that he conspired to kill people in an overseas jihad and to fund and support overseas terrorism. He was scheduled to be sentenced on December 5, 2007, but his sentencing was postponed to January, due to the death of a family member of the Judge who will sentence him.
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SpazMat1 year, 10 months ago
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The point is not how he is treated while he is guilty, the point is how he was treated when he was not. An American citizen, he was held for 3 years 6 months with out his "guaranteed" rights, by the US government.
THAT is totally unsat.
Now that he is guilty, branding irons, pliers on the nails, that kind of thing (not really), but he was NOT a guilty SOB until he was a guilty SOB.
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saintetienne1 year, 10 months ago
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CONT.
"Have you noticed countries all over the world dumping dollars?"
No, but I HAVE noticed my portfolio expanding, my holdings increasing, my personal savings going up, up, up and my personal financial value hit an all-time high. I don't know what you people's problems are. If you couldn't make money in the last 5 or 6 years in this country - in this economy - I doubt you'll ever be even moderately wealthy. You call ME a "sheeple". What have you done with YOUR money? I've saved and invested mine, and created a solid future for myself. And you? Don't tell me - let me guess. You've spent it all on cheap consumer goods, and have run up massive credit card debt like most of the rest of the country.
"Keep believing the kool-Aid."
If I knew what you even meant by this, I'd respond, but since it's a nonsense statement, I'll have to abstain.
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Teech1 year, 10 months ago
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Jeeez....chill out guys!
First of all who gives a sh!t who's printing them. Whether it's George and Dick having fun after hours in the mint, or the CIA doing whatever it is they do. Or Hillary or North Korea or the Saudis. Why? Because our currency is supported and backed up by nothing but faith and trust anyhow! If the fakes are that good, they will have the same value as those that are real. And what is the dollar REALLY worth anyhow? The only way this would hurt you or me is if we got caught inadvertently holding one. When it is seized, we lose, it does not get replaced by the "bank." But if they're that good, who will know?
Besides, the 50 million that have been seized, and the few hundred million that may be circulating ARE EQUAL TO A FEW MINUTES OF INTEREST ON THE PAST SEVEN YEAR'S 10 TRILLION ACCUMULATION OF THE NATIONAL DEBT! It's not like it's "real" money.
So, ultimately.....W. T. F. difference does it make???
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CaptainLucid1 year, 10 months ago
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Damn, learn some economics. If I have real bills and someone prints a dumptruck full of fakes that will lead to inflation and my real dollars will be worth less. The dollar has been in a freefall recently. Right now our dollar is approaching a critical point as far as trust. Other countries are begining to keep their reserves in euros. If the world starts dumping dollars for euros we will have a third world currency overnight.
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saintetienne1 year, 10 months ago
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"If the world starts dumping dollars for euros we will have a third world currency overnight."
...to match our third world population, our third world diseases that are beginning to affect us, our third world mentality, i.e., stupidity and ignorance, and our third world demand for free benefits from the government.
Yes folks, like it or not, we are becoming the United Socialist States of America. Vote for Hillary or Obama so that we can complete the experiment.
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CaptainLucid1 year, 10 months ago
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We are not becoming socialist at all. If you look at government policy it has all been about consolidation if big corps, reducing taxes for the mega rich, unlimited corporate power, and breaking down the working class. Are you even aware of what our government has been doing the last 7 years and under Reagan/Bush I? I am amazed that neocons can say in one sentence that they lowered taxes on the rich and in the next announce we are on a dangerous path to socialism. You are trying to convince us that while the neocons controlled both houses of congress, the presidency, and the supreme court we were following the path of socialism. Do you seriously expect us to believe that?
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wtagg1 year, 10 months ago
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Please remember that if the administration is not to blame for their actions, they cannot take credit for their actions. Either they are responsible for the good and the bad or they are responsible for neither. You can't cherry pick.
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xlegultx1 year, 10 months ago
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"Not here," obviously not where you live and god knows where you or what you live in. Our economy is crippled, our trade involves outsourcing jobs. Only reason its barely noticeable is due to the false influx of resources, which are bound to come crashing down.
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browntiger1 year, 10 months ago
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Got my neg for your worthless b**ching...
We know what the truth is. I don't buy those
right is left
polution = clean air
lie = truth
Those are pure excuses from neoclowns.
It was not a congress that went into war it was dumboW.
It was not a congress that miss managed war funds.
It was not a congress that did not secure weapons depot.
It was not a congress that destroyed vital Iraq infrastructure.
It was not a congress that authorized torture
It was not a congress that lost Ossama.
It was not a congress that instead of letting Saddam go into exile, decided it is better to waste 2 trillion USD.
>"crippled the economy of the U.S."? Not here. My stocks are up, inflation remains down, trade is robust, employment is low....
This sounds like a typical republican moto:
"I don't care if my neighbors house burns down as long as my hands are warm"
We have high unemployment and under employment, layoffs, food prices going up hourly, mortgage crisis.
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SpazMat1 year, 10 months ago
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It is congress that is continually funding the war.
It is coongress that accepts that it is out of budget spending, so it does not count against deficit capping.
" It was not a congress that instead of letting Saddam go into exile, decided it is better to waste 2 trillion USD."
Do you mean by having the war congress funded? I'm not yanking your chain, I'm trying to understand what you mean, since I don't think Saddam was planning on going into exile anytime soon.
" We have high unemployment and under employment, layoffs, food prices going up hourly, mortgage crisis."
We have 5% unemployment, compare that to the 70's.
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