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hyperbola1 year, 9 months ago
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Well Spade, the ultimate irony is that cries of anti-semtism are being used to cover up another holocaust - in Palestine.
What is the lesson to be learned from the Holocaust?
Religion â;; Hedy Epstein, is a German Jewish Holocaust survivor, born in 1924, whose parents perished in Auschwitz. In 1948, Hedy Epstein went to live in US. In 2003, she made a trip to Palestine. Shocked by the oppression that the Israeli government is imposing on Palestinians, she is devoting herself to make it known to the world.
http://www.propeller.com/viewstory/2008/01/14/w...
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BoxMonkey1 year, 9 months ago
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This is not new news [ anti-semitism ] . In Ridgewood a communitty that borders Queens and Brooklyn , there are many Jewish cemetaries that have been vandalized throughout the years . Tombstones that date back to the 1800's . Anti-semitism is alive in all communities I've visited . Most recently exploited in that movie " Borat " . And although the Jews get the most attention when the word Holocaust is used , let's not forget the Armenians , Kurds , Somalians and many other religious or nationalities that have faced similiar consequences that are not publisized by the press .
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Spadecaller1 year, 9 months ago
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boxmonkey
"And although the Jews get the most attention..."
All the Jews I know would not care to get the "attention" as you describe. Surely a poor choice of words or a poor opinion of Jews
"This is not news." Boxmonkey, what an insensitive remark. Just a few days ago there were people crying over the broken and desecrated graves stones of their loved ones. Are you that devoid of human compassion?
Why is that not news; it just happened and it is a horrible thing to do to anyone? Isn't it?
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xlegultx1 year, 9 months ago
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Spadecaller1 year, 9 months ago
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Blackadder19641 year, 9 months ago
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While I agree with the sentiment, i have to agree with boxmonkey. I have re-read his comment several times and see nothing insensitive there he simply points out there is also racism/hatred/oppression in the rest of the world, I would add to his list with Cambodia, Tibet, Burma, Zimbabwe, Kosovo and East Timor (under the Indonesians).
The Holocaust was a terrible thing but it doesn't excuse the building of walls or the sniping of civilians from Israeli guard towers (I have seen this my self) by the same token the PLO's (or their new sub groups) achieve nothing by sending young men as suicide bombers either, with many innocent civilians dying on either side, both sides are just setting up the next generation of hatred.
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david_nwpa1 year, 9 months ago
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I agree. I teach in classes that other genocides have occurred around the world. Some have been massive and quick such as Pol Pot. Others have been spread out over generations such as Manifest Destiny and the slaughter of Native Americans. We can hardly claim that the desecration of tombstones is NEW news. It has been an on-going problem for far too long. What I think is important is that we make it fresh by identifying the people responsible. We need to stomp out the hatred wherever and whenever we see it.
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Spadecaller1 year, 9 months ago
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david_nwpa
Why not discuss the story that was posted rather than to allow others to detour the focus elswhere?
The fact is that there are many people (over 3000 hate groups in America alone) dedicated either to deny the Jewish holocaust, perpetuate hate, silence Jews, and who support hate crimes against Jews. Why do some people refuse to acknowledge that and to discuss the subject posted?
You are free to talk about Alexander the Great and his drinking problem too, but there is a reason why the subject of anti-Semitism or racism is always met on Propeller with those who take every opportunity to dismiss, deny, or detour the focus elsewhere. Why?
Some people are so easily fooled.
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Candida1 year, 9 months ago
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It is not dismissing or denying the problem, but acknowledging that Antisemitism is just a part of a bigger problem: hatred and prejudice against groups on the basis of race, color, religion, etc. The video to which you've posted a link further below is a very powerful and scary one, but sometimes you also have your blinkers on. You are saying: "The fact is that there are many people (over 3000 hate groups in America alone) dedicated either to deny the Jewish holocaust, perpetuate hate, silence Jews, and who support hate crimes against Jews." Yes, that video clearly shows that, but it also shows that the hatred is not directed exclusively against Jews but also against blacks, and perhaps other groups as well. Are you dismissing the other problems by not including them?
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MajJohn1 year, 9 months ago
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The post as you correctly point out is about antisemitism. One can respond to it by pointing out that there are other horrible things that have also happened. This I suspect is an attempt to either justify or diminish what happened. It's another way of saying,"they got what they deserved". Another response is to claim it's not news. This is a bury your head in the sand attitude also meant to minimalise the holocaust.
Let us admit here and now that the holocaust in WW II happened and vow not to forget so as to not allow such things to be lost from our conscience. Hopefully, in some way that the memory will not allow us to let that happen again. Unfortunately, the so called civilized world does allow such things to happen but this is another topic.
Bringing up Manifest Destiny and the westward movement are also good topics for another time. Let's not deflect from the fact that hatred is alive and well and antisemitism exists. Why? Another topic!
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AntarcticIce1 year, 9 months ago
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anti-Semitism is a bad thing, the holocaust defiantly happened and that is a terrible thing and you can go to jail for denying it in Germany. There is nothing anti-Semitic in the above comments, by comparison the Armenian genocide of WW1 killed as many as 1.5 million and is totally denied by the Turkish and some have been sent to jail for raising the issue. And frankly MajJohn suggesting this somehow justifies or diminishes or says "they got what they deserved" in regard to the holocaust, is bulls%%t.
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