Breaking the Propaganda Code With a Moral Code »
Posted By trnscndr 8 months, 2 weeks ago in NewsToday's politics is full of good metaphors (if "metaphor" becomes a metaphor for "BS), but I find myself needing to address this with stark reality in order to make sense of it. As a college teacher of Logic and Critical Thinking with most of my education in Literature and Comp, I am adept at dealing with analogies, but the propagand
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1)Of all my political tenets the one I know to be true is that emotional politicians who ignore logic are enemies of the state ...
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Truzseeker8 months, 2 weeks ago
hmmm....already broke the propaganda code through many hours of independent research and thinking. After that I learned how to think instead of being told what to think, and the more research I become involved with, the more I learned just how much the American public allowed themselves to be screwed. Today the easiest way to break the propaganda code is by searching for alternate news sources regardless of what others call them by name.
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trnscndr8 months, 2 weeks ago
That is the key, thinking instead of emoting. Finding the logical word to replace those with colored and hidden meaning.
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libsRfunny8 months, 2 weeks ago
"Even on US news we here [sic] such ridiculous terminology that ignores and veils the goal of objectivity."
All I have to say is, any college employing an alleged teacher of "logic" with alleged training in literature yet does not know the difference between "here" and "here," has to be as big a joke as the idiot "editor" who missed that simple grammar/spelling error. What moron would pretend to edit/publish that rubbish??
Yes, liberals do need to stop emoting and join the rest of the logical thinkers living in reality.
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tehranchik8 months, 2 weeks ago
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trnscndr8 months, 2 weeks ago
I say these things every day. I just thought Propellers would appreciate they were not alone!
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donald518 months, 2 weeks ago
...such has been the state of life in America since Dubya took over as president... validating the true evil of the Republican party! Only so unscrupulous a party would continue to tell you up is down... the economy is doing great... we don't torture...
When Clinton left office with his 65% approval rating, did we feel the same?
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marlenebomer8 months, 2 weeks ago
Um Donald... you need to go back further -- try during the Reagan Regency.
It was then when the media tycoons started lobbying politicians like Mike Oxley to allow them to own more and more media outlets, deregulating like mad in the myth that free markets meant better competition, which just the opposite!
Now we have media giants who can now *leterally* own every media outlet in a town: from the radio station to the TV station to the local paper and even the billboards!
Too bad the closest thing the country had to another Teddy Roosevelt had to drop from the campaign for the presidency, Dennis Kucinich. He would've broken up the mega-media monopolies as quickly as he could!
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Beau78908 months, 2 weeks ago
Yes, it's maddening. As a teacher of logic and critical thinking, Bryan, must be doubly frustrating for you. You can teach people what it means to analyze an argument and how to think for themselves, but it's still hard to get them to apply it and to get past the rhetoric behind the tactics of propaganda.
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ProudBlueTexan8 months, 2 weeks ago
I donated my copy of Naomi Wolf's "The End of America" to my local public library, and so don't have it here to quote exactly, but one of her points about the 'fascist shift' had to do with beating down the public...'demoralizing' was the word she used. Enough illogic and blatant distortions and lies will eventually cause enough people to simply throw up their hands and give up; then any counter-movement collapses. How many times has it happened in the past 100 years? Well, people, that's what is happening now right here. You are witnessing history, but it will probably not be written into the history books the way it's unfolding today.
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libsRfunny8 months, 2 weeks ago
"As a teacher of logic and critical thinking, Bryan, must be doubly frustrating for you."
Doubly frustrating that his students aren't getting much of an education. I mean, he doesn't know the difference between "here" and "hear"?
Next time someone tells you our college campuses are run by illiterate hacks with a liberal agenda, Duly Consider the tripe Bryan is plying to kids. How much do you want to bet none of his students DARE to challenge his ill-informed, arrogant views?
You ever give conservative students good grades, Bryan, or did you them straight over for National Socialist indoctrination??
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sumptuousdigs8 months, 2 weeks ago
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sumptuousdigs8 months, 2 weeks ago
trnscndr, sorry pal, I've become nothing but emotional. Sickened, twisted, and deranged. Did I mention angry. Disgusted beyond all endurance and contemptuous of the apologists and rah rah boys and girls, and the morally and intellectually bankrupt.
The feigned dismay of politically incorrect outrage by the greedy and the wannabes with a blindspot the size of the Cosmos, has become my latest bugaboo, if only because my snarky little comments get some response.
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tehranchik8 months, 2 weeks ago
On the other hand your comments are quite eloquent and very factual from what I've read.
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trnscndr8 months, 2 weeks ago
Hey Digs, having an emotional response after logical processing is inevitable and appropriate but we have been totally manipulated by those who expect us to abandon our logic and morality in favor of purely emotional bigotry.
I absolutely have FEELINGS about this issue, but they are rationally based as are yours.
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libsRfunny8 months, 2 weeks ago
"...we have been totally manipulated by those who expect us to abandon our logic and morality in favor of purely emotional bigotry."
Yes, those Democrats are a surly, bigoted bunch, aren't they? Hell, look how many people they murdered just to keep slavery. Look how many they murdered to keep Democrat-enacted Jim Crow laws in effect until reality and Republican support overtook them.
Look how many women Bill Clinton raped and abused, all the while appealing to the emotions of liberals because anyone with half a rational thought in his or her head knows what a slime bag the Clintons are and never would support such a sleazy duo.
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Charlson8 months, 2 weeks ago
"It's time for the Truth, and it's time for some Justice. As for the "American Way", we must decide a way that is defined by truth and justice or the way we are going is simply a path paved with lies."
This says it all.
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Shadowolf8 months, 2 weeks ago
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engineer8 months, 2 weeks ago
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trnscndr8 months, 2 weeks ago
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Lurch8 months, 2 weeks ago
all lies can be challenged, but some challenges are more pathetic than others.
http://news.propeller.com/story/2008/01/23/fals...
BTW, CNN only reported it. It was actually the Center for Public Integrity who made the study. Check out some of the examples on their website, then imagine your typical neocon trying to challenge it.
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Obaku8 months, 2 weeks ago
A very large part of the issue regarding the absence of critical thought is that there is a long list of assumptions behind these emotional arguments, and many of those assumptions are just demonstrably false.
For instance, Americans all accept unquestioningly that we have a "free market." We don't. Not by any realistic definition. Certainly not by Adam Smith's.
No one questions that 'teenage pregnancy' is a problem. The fact is that all of human history, and all of mammalian biology, demonstrates that nothing could be more natural, or to be blunt, inevitable.
"Don't sweat the small stuff."
"Don't worry about things that are out of your control."
That doesn't leave much, does it? Seems like the politicians and bureaucrats believe nothing is to "small" for them not to regulate, nor is anything so large as to be out of their control, doesn't it?
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Obaku8 months, 2 weeks ago
Now compare and contrast:
"A penny saved is a penny earned."
A stitch in time saves nine."
"If you have faith the size of a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you."
"Don't take any wooden nickels."
"Backed by the full faith and credit of the United States."
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ProudBlueTexan8 months, 2 weeks ago
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earthlingerer8 months, 2 weeks ago
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NelsonR8 months, 2 weeks ago
Nothing will change, you are dealing with human nature regardless from what country you were raised.
Eighty to ninety percent of any population are "Followers" so irrespective of what news source they obtain their information from it's irrelevent other than what news source they accept to satisfy their idioms.
That is why nothing will ever change with apathy the norm and "followers" the majority all governing bodies pander and dictate to.
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donald518 months, 2 weeks ago
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splitrch8 months, 2 weeks ago
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fishifanb8 months, 2 weeks ago
You mean the Laffer curve.
It should be called the "Laugher" curve for all the rich folks laughing all the way to the bank.
Even Arthur Laffer says "The Laffer Curve should not be the reason you raise or lower taxes,"
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,917...
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2sidestoeverything8 months, 2 weeks ago
Great article and I have been deciphering news for a long time now. I take nothing at face value anymore I also do some of my own research as well as listening to how certain words are used.
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bonaroo8 months, 2 weeks ago
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icono18 months, 2 weeks ago
To quote the article:
"Even on US news we here such ridiculous terminology that ignores and veils the goal of objectivity."
'Nuff said.
The news, as we receive it, has to be put into a simplified format that hits quick and sticks easly in the memory. Phrases like Shock and Awe, Axis of Evil, Regan Democrat, Fundamentalist Christian, Islamofacist and etc work well because the phrases are simple to say, easily understood at a shallow intellectual level with the extra added bonus of having a strong emotional content.
For the news orgs that is easy money, which is what they really work for; market share for the advertisers not to enhance to average person's knowledge of the world.
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icono18 months, 2 weeks ago
Now for the politicians that is a very convenient way to hide their behaviour and plans behind catchy and very culturally persuasive rhetoric.
Least we forget remember: Stalin & Hitler; just two of the best at creating emotionally binding and intellectually blinding rhetoric.
Good article.
(Sorry about the split but propeller will not take a full word count post.)
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Amazing18 months, 2 weeks ago
You've put into words just how I see it. Propaganda. That's what we get for news. The only real source of news is those "alternative" outlets which are generally denigrated by the mainstream.
Our populace is generally intellectually lazy. They do not want to think because it would be in direct contrast to what they hear on the news.
What we need now is the kind of heroes who will stand up and shout "the emperor has no clothes!" We need to collectively begin our own campaign. Perhaps it is time for a new Tea Party. For when, in the course of human events....
But that is difficult. What options are there to gather together to stage a protest? I cannot tell you how many war protests I have attended. And how it was either not covered by the media, or only briefly, as if the status quo were acknowledging a fly by brushing a hand in its direction.
I am so angry about this state of affairs. Show me a leader who will walk into the street to call them out.
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Amazing18 months, 2 weeks ago
WE, the PEOPLE, need our own catch phrases. We need to find a way to DEMAND that the government pay attention to the PEOPLE.
How about "Truth is Stronger than Fiction."
Or maybe "Make the Government Fear US"
Or "Propaganda is the tool of the despot."
Or "The media isn't even medium in what it reports."
I daresay, that from what I have seen here on Propeller, there are a lot of angry people in the population. What will it take for us to find a way to stop our descent into Hell?
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texangelwings8 months, 2 weeks ago
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Radiofreeeuropa8 months, 2 weeks ago
The only thing more deplorable than this administration's heinous propaganda are the handful of malfeasant cretins who are still spellbound by anything waving a flag even if it's fascism.
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ETproductions8 months, 2 weeks ago
In tonight's MSNBC debate, Governor Romney told a blatant lie about being the #1 fund raiser in the GOP. Ron Paul holds that honor, and was also the only debater to win major aplause from an audience that had been told to hold applause to the end, when it couldn't be attached to any particular candidate.
Despite all that, the MSNBC taling heads collectively annointed Romney as the hands down winner, doing all they xould to derail McCain's move to frontrunner position.
My attitude used to be to rail against such obvious subverting of the political process. I'm becomeing increasingly resigned. If Americans truyly want to believe that Britney Spears latest antics are far more important that 9 trillion dollars in debt and a 100 years war in Iraq, they deserve what they get.
It's been said that all nations get the governmnet they deserve. It breaks my heart to see the once proud USA fall into this pit, but you simply can't fool mother nature.
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marlenebomer8 months, 2 weeks ago
Most likely! hopefully he'll be like that other rich, white elitist who tried to buy his way into the White House -- Steve Forbes -- and fail miserably!
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