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engineer1 year, 9 months ago
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You're out of your mind
http://www.dems.gov/index.asp?Type=B_PR&SEC={D6...
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PapaWolf1 year, 9 months ago
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>>I'm simply saying, if we get a Dem president, they will raise taxes on us in countless ways. The economy will die.
Can't you see that's what Bush's tax "CUTS" have gotten us? The only ones to see a real "cut" were the wealthiest 1% and the biggest corps, mostly the oil & energy sector - W's buddies.
All those tax cuts meant lower federal moneys to state & local gov'ts, which meant higher state & local taxes, and/or higher prices for just about everything. Not to mention cuts in services formerly available from the gov't that now costs money or more money than it used to.
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flyonthewallzz1 year, 9 months ago
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"The average worker in China makes about $1000 US dollars per year."
Yet somehow they are able to nurture their family.
If you where to make a pie chart of your Wallmart flat screen I would hazard to guess that the labor cost per unit would be a fatter wedge.
How long is the "cool stuff" going to last?
Singer sewing machine got smart and traded their indestructible machines for ones that offered fancy chain stitching.
They smashed the returned machines.
The concept of Planned obsolescence only speaks to those that lack the ability to come up with an original idea.
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PapaWolf1 year, 9 months ago
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>>I wonder how many flat screen TVs are being loaded onto container ships as I type?
You mean ships from countries that are making them by US companies that are getting tax breaks for sending US jobs to those other countries that are making our tv's?
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GWHayduke1 year, 9 months ago
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Thats right, keep on spending. Dont save a penny. Hell, get yourself TWO flat screens.
Now THATS sound fiscal policy brought to you by the Republican party!
McCain / Romney going to continue right along with that brilliant economic insight too?
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Blackacereturn1 year, 9 months ago
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I will give mune back in a heart beat if it fixes our economy! i cant see how an extra 1500 or so can take the place of me losing my job in a bad economy! But you might want to explain that to me if you can.
Taxes is what made this nation and without it we will be nothing but a nation ow have and have nots!
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PapaWolf1 year, 9 months ago
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>>The unemployment rate is at about 5%
That's the biggest farce second only to "Iraq has WMD's"
The "official" unemployment rate doesn't take into account those who have not been able to find a job after a certain period. It also doesn't take into account those who lost their good-paying jobs to overseas workers & are making minimum wage at that wallmart where you're going to buy your flat screen tv.
There was a study a few years ago by Queens College that showed the ACTUAL unemployment rate was closer to 20% of those capable of doing, & wanting to find, a job but couldn't.
Not to mention that both Reagan AND W changed the way they counted the unemployed to boost their numbers.
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Blackacereturn1 year, 9 months ago
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The big lie about Unemployment is once you are off of it job or no you are no longer counted as being Unemployed. I do wish people would not be led by the nose like a crazed bull and do some thinking and research before opening their mouths.
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MonkeyBiz1 year, 9 months ago
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I think you must be familiar with schools for the retards, or you are very rich. Nobody in my working class family got much of a tax cut, but I know a couple of wealthy individuals that got HUGE tax cuts. Don't you remember the mantra, "the ones paying the bills should get the tax cuts." There was little to no tax relief for the working class in any of the repug tax cuts. And whatever there was was lost to the higher local taxes to make up the difference in the lost federal funding.
Also check your history before making such nonsense statements as "if we elect a democrat, the economy will die." That is ignorant at best, a flat out lie at worst. Most major economic meltdowns have come at the hands of Repug presidents, not dems.
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amazed1 year, 9 months ago
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It is true that in absolute dollars the richest got much bigger tax cuts,but if you take it as a percentage of taxes paid, the cuts to the lower income earners were bigger. In addition, the threshold of where people begin to pay taxes was increased. Yes, some people got a $100,000 tax break, but it's hard to give someone that kind of tax cut if they're only paying $1500 / year in taxes in the first place. But, if I was at the lower limit of taxability and I was paying that $1500 / year in taxes, but now I pay no taxes at all, is that really less of a tax break than the guy who was paying 900K and is now paying 800K?
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cosmogenium1 year, 9 months ago
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Not true. Percentage wise or money wise, the rich got richer and the poor got more numerous.
Whatever happened to the idea that those who can afford it should pay for the privilege? The super-rich got rich on the backs of the people. Why shouldn't the people get something in return?
CEO pay went up 2000% in the last twenty years while average worker pay went nowhere adjusted for inflation. 1% of the people hold 90% of the money. Shouldn't they be paying their share? If they don't, where will it come from?
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PapaWolf1 year, 9 months ago
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>>CEO pay went up 2000% in the last twenty years while average worker pay went nowhere adjusted for inflation.
You're right. The only time since Reagan took office that the real salaries of average workers was NOT stagnant or declining was under Clinton.
So much for their theory that Democrats ruin the economy.
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Blackacereturn1 year, 9 months ago
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Second - take a look at the state of the economy that's an indication on how well this bush tax cut worked...under clinotn taxes were raised, however companies were making sooo much money they were offering recent grads $50,000 to come work for them. How do i know this you ask, because I got a BMW and $25,000 to move to New York from OSU you don't hear about things like this anymore!
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PapaWolf1 year, 9 months ago
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>>The Bush administration gave us all tax cuts and actual $ refunds to most all Americans.
Don't you realize that that "refund" they sent to everyone was an advance & was actually considered income on the following tax return?
That whopping $300 my wife & I received didn't even pay for 1 week's worth of child care. Wonderful tax cut.
And my refunds were LOWER than my refunds under Clinton's tax "increases." You don't get it. W's tax cuts went to the wealthiest in this country. And the reduced revenue caused federal funding to states & localities that either raised local taxes & fees or cut formerly free services all together.
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MRCOFFEECAKE1 year, 9 months ago
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You don't understand government, but you certainly understand the old man's philosophy of lower expectations because higher expectations cost more...
I imagine you still won't admit that it is the "old men" who put us in this situation...
Try thinking young for a change...It's refreshing!!
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