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Posted by: Aidenag 1 year, 10 months agoWhen Israel limited shipments of food into Gaza in 2006, a senior government adviser explained that "the idea is to put the Palestinians on a diet but not to make them die of hunger." By further restricting the supply of food to an already malnourished population, Israel has clearly decided to take its "diet" a step further.
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Aidenag
Feb. 3, 2008, 1:56 a.m.I really cannot understand how the world is allowing this to happen. Yes, Israel has a right to defend itself from rocket attacks and suicide bombers. But this is by no standards that. It in fact has many similarities to the Warsaw Ghetto in its early years. Not saying its the same thing, but nobody can deny the many things the two have in common...
Wall off a civilian population based on it's culture or race that is different from your own, Check. Include men, women and children of all ages, Check. Limit clean water and electricity, Check. Cut off proper food rations, and literally starve a population, Check. Lesson shipments of medical supplies, Check. Let Diseases pop up and spread, Check... Anything else im forgetting these have in common?
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Obaku
Feb. 3, 2008, 2:12 a.m.Construction of concentration camps, in situ.
Another fine innovation brought to you by ZioNazi, LLC.
A medieval siege, in the 21st century, made possible by cultures and religions that never left the 22nd century, B.C.E.
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tehranchik
Feb. 3, 2008, 2:15 a.m.I remember learning about the world standing by and watching this happen to another population of people not that many years ago.
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cowboygrandpa
Feb. 3, 2008, 3:38 a.m.I'm in a quandry. I love the Jewish people. But I cannot accept or tolerate the treatment of other human beings. In such a way as they were treated by the Germans.
This is not what Jesus would have us live like. Yes we must protect our families. We means all people.
This is where things get sticky. Each side of the argument claims they are doing that.
We as the world need to abolish genocide and war for the gains of countries and corporations.
This is not right whoever does it.
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Thinker22
Feb. 3, 2008, 9:06 a.m.> "After feeling imprisoned for so long, it has been a psychological relief for Gazans to know that there is a way out," said John Ging, the local director of the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA). "But it does not resolve their crisis by any stretch of the imagination."
No, it does not. Negotiating a peace agreement, however, WILL resolve the crisis. Unfortunately, the authors of the article and the advocates of Hamas here and elsewhere are, apparently, convinced that the Palestinians are INCAPABLE TO LIVE IN PEACE. If it was not the case they would, probably, entertain such option.
Unlike 'aidenag', 'obaku', tehranchik' and others with similar views I'm sure that the Palestinian Arabs CAN BE convinced that living in peace is preferable to be killed at war. The problem is to explain it to them in terms they'll understand. Closing the doors into Israel serves just that purpose while saving a lot of Palestinian lives.
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markoller
Feb. 3, 2008, 5:46 p.m.Oh please! Don't pretend that you are interested in saving Palestinian lives. That is less credible than your Osama videos.
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Bkumm
Feb. 3, 2008, 9:11 a.m.I think what people are trying to say when they say that this is wrong, is that it's not going to help in the end, unless Israel is willing to wipe the Palestinians off the map.
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engineer
Feb. 3, 2008, 10:47 a.m.The Palestinians do not want peace. The 1.5 million ele3cted a terrorist organization bent on destroying Israel. that is Hamas's main purpose. If they cared about their people, Hams would change its outlook. If the Palestinians lay down their guns, there will be peace. If the Israelis lay down their guns, there will be a batch of dead Israelis. Israel has no choice but to do what it is doing unfortunately. Israel would rather live in peace. As Golda Meir said, "When the Palestinians love their children more than they hate Israel, there will be peace.
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dexlovex2
Feb. 3, 2008, 11:49 a.m."Israel's squeeze is expressly intended to punish the entire population for the firing of those rockets by militants, which ordinary civilians are powerless to stop. "We will not allow them to lead a pleasant life," said Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert when Israel cut off fuel supplies on January 18, thereby plunging Gaza into darkness. "As far as I am concerned, all of Gaza's residents can walk and have no fuel for their cars."
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walden3
Feb. 3, 2008, 12:10 p.m.It's terrible to see a group of people suffer so much and for so long. I'm not sure of the solution.
I believe in a two-state solution, the rights of Palestinians to self governance and the need for a peace broker other than the United States.
I also believe that the future of the Palestinians lay with the Palestinians themselves. How the react, what government they elect, who they choose to lead and what actions each of them choose to take.
I do disagree with the author comparing the numbers on each side who have died and somehow using those figures to establish that one side is more at fault then the other. Fewer Israelis have been killed, not due to a lack of effort by some Palestinians, but due to inferior weapons. If these few Palestinians had their way, I'm sure many more Israelis would be dead.
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truthiness
Feb. 3, 2008, 12:49 p.m.this is horrible.
as jews they are violating there religious laws
as a nation they are violating international law
as humans they are violating morality
this has to stop. the fat that the palestinians are equally to blame for the continued escalation of the cycle of violence in no way excuses purposely starving a people. reprehensible. the silence of the US govt on this issue where we have so much influence is also reprehensible.
shame on everyone involved. the path to peace is long and arduous, but it requires a first step be made in the proper direction.
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mmrhe
Feb. 3, 2008, 12:50 p.m.How much of this kind of suffering will lead to further terrorist activity against the United States for it's support of Israel?
Let's not forget Thinker that many of Israel's leaders were members of terrorist organiizations themselves.
You say the Palestinians are asking for it by electing a terrorst organization.
Is that not hypocrisy?
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truthiness
Feb. 3, 2008, 1:01 p.m.The Israel-Palestine conflict provides an microcosm of the history of humanity as relates to war and peace. we all claim to want peace, yet we keep going to war. the wars we enter are always do to choices on both sides, that could have been chosen differently and thereby avoided war. but people choose based on pride and fear and a desire to exact control over the behavior of others.
in 1948 there were two states and a city state of Jerusalem... if they had been willing to share this situation would not exist.
once the wars started, fear perpetuated them.
now the wars are over, Israel has won, they have offered the palestinians a state more than once, but the palestinians want influence in Jerusalem, the Israelis wont give it.
Pride has prevented the palestinians from accepting a deal.
Pride has prevented the Israelis from returning Jerusalem to a city state (a fair compromise)
war continues and the suffering grows, foolish decisions, needless death.
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Mutainia
Feb. 3, 2008, 2:14 p.m."There can be no excuse for firing rockets at civilian targets, but Israel was squeezing Gaza long before the first of those primitive projectiles was cobbled together."
Right, they're just primitive projectiles cobbled together. Isreal should wait for them to be more lethal?
"The first fatal rocket attack took place four years ago; Israel has been occupying Gaza for four decades." Oh, so, LET the missiles fly, right? Sounds like OBL Jihadist logic. Well, I'm not surprised, poor Israel.
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pcknowledge
Feb. 3, 2008, 3:25 p.m.Yes I believe the Palestinians should dennounce the Hamas charter & stop suicide missions into Israel. But, anyone who's been to that part of the world, knows that wouldn't solve the problem. Israel's government would continue to try to expand their settlements. And then there is a problem with sharing natural resources. Our government (US) has helped Israel's government build pipelines into rivers that flow in the region. Thus, Israel has 4x more water then the Palestinians have. The IDF humiliates Palestinians at the checkpoints.
The Palestinians live in extreme poverty with the IDF breathing down their necks 24/7. The Israelis live in fear of rocket attacks etc & have build bunkers they can hide in.
There seems to be no power in this world that can stop the conflict in that part of the world. It's not only a conflict over religion. But also a fight for land & scarce resources.
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looker70
Feb. 3, 2008, 4:17 p.m.the only thing you have to know Israel has the right to do what it wants when it wants where ever it wants as long as big brother is standing behind them there is nothing ever can do. the suffering of palestinians will continue thinker22 keeps saying protection of his people what about the protection of the palestinaian people. like the murders that took place in sabra,shatila,dhar yasin, and countless other war crimes to many to count that came through the hands of the jewish state.
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hyperbola
Feb. 3, 2008, 4:40 p.m."I Have ... A Cunning Plan"
By Lawrence Of Cyberia
01/02/08 --- "Lawrence Of Cyberia" --- - "I have ... a cunning plan. It's as cunning as a fox who's just been appointed Professor of Cunning at Oxford University.
The thing is, we want all this land, but we don't want those Arab people what live on it.
These days, you can't simply bundle people onto wagons and cart them away, you have to have a more positive policy that will sort of ... encourage ... people to leave. [1]
So ... how about if we pretend we want to get along with them, and start having talks about how we're all going to share the land. We could call it ... a peace process. But ... and this is the really cunning part ... we make sure the talks never actually succeed in resolving how to share the land equitably [2], and we keep taking over more and more of their land even while we're "negotiating" with them over it! [3]
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canadianrancher57
Feb. 3, 2008, 5:01 p.m.I have sat and read many of these stories and have read many of the comments and at times I make comments and get my knuckes rapped for my lack of knowledge in this area. I have on occasion made reference to Ireland and have been told that this is different and is some ways it is but what I have noticed from the events, stories and comments is that far to many of us are looking the wrong direction. We are looking back at what has happened in this region and in doing so we are able to justify all actions. I am beginnig to feel no sympathy to either side in this mess. The comment on Ireland is something we should think about for if we look at what has happened there we will see that only when people look forward does change happen. It seems these stories at times are the same fight that is going on over in the mid East, because of or support for either side in a way we are encouraging more violence not less.
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cherev
Feb. 3, 2008, 6:42 p.m.In 2007, 7000 bombs fell on the Israeli town of Sederot. They were fired from Gaza. None of the "people" who today whine about the poor "Palestinians" complained about collective punishment against Jews. And they never will.
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markoller
Feb. 3, 2008, 7:36 p.m.If you need more reasons why Palestinian resistance is justified, read "Inside Scarred Minds." It is almost three years old, but the situation is getting worse.
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markoller
Feb. 3, 2008, 8:34 p.m.Even more despicable than Israeli atrocities is the American press. See "Gaza Genocide and Media Lies," by Mary Sparrowdancer.
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Natureboy
Feb. 3, 2008, 8:44 p.m.Zionism=racism. Just that simple. When the Ashkenazim of Europe elected to drive people of their so called "promised land" they went down a road of racism and genocide, much like the one they claim they will never forget. Maybe they didn't forget. Maybe they just learned how to "do unto others."
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Mutainia
Feb. 3, 2008, 9:35 p.m.Hey, where'd everyone go? Man, you start showing why poor Israel is in the state it's in due Palestinian children being brain-washed into blind hatred (with the videos to prove it), and, the Jihadists of the Pen DIS-AP-PEAR!!! Well, I guess I'll have to do this more often. :)
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markoller
Feb. 3, 2008, 10 p.m.All your video consisted of was a debate about whether the Koran believes in magic. The host of warned about all of the cyber attacks his website was subjected to, and how often the address needed to be changed, as if it was worth attacking.
For the uncensored truth about Israel, and American subservience to Israel, read "Welcome to Amerisralistan," by Chad Powers, and click the numerous links. http://www.jewishtribalreview.org/amerisrael.htm
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markoller
Feb. 3, 2008, 10:49 p.m.All of the cheerleaders for Israeli genocide are contributing to the genocide. The latest atrocities in Gaza are the result of decades of whitewashed lies about Israel.
In case anyone shouts, Jew hater, I must ask, do any of you care in the slightest about the Zionist opposition to any efforts to save European Jews from the gas chambers?
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Thinker22
Feb. 4, 2008, 6:23 a.m.> ...maybe they did not wish to see all of the British dead...
No, they did not.
> FRom what I remember they made a point of killing as many of them as possible and by using terrorist type activities...
I'm afraid that your memory betrays you. You see, the IRA declared IN ADVANCE that they were going to plant bombs and so did the Basques in Spain.
...and I do not recall IRA declaring about their plans to continue doing it until Britain was eliminated.
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mmrhe
Feb. 4, 2008, 11:08 a.m.Thinker
You sound more and more like an Israeli apologist. As if no other situation on the face of earth can be compared to what is going on there.
Are you willing to admit the Israeli's are at least partly to blame for this situation?
How do you respond to everything Hyperbola has put forth?
I think what we are begininng to see is a fundamental shift in the way many Americans view the Israeli government.From victim to instigator.
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