Hamas escalates attacks on Israel »
Posted By israeligirl1 1 year, 5 months ago in NewsHamas took responsibility for the suicide bombing attack in Dimona yesterday, which left a woman dead and several wounded. Today, the assault continues with a barrage of rockets on Sderot, injuring 3 people and causing significant damage.
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weston1631 year, 5 months ago
The terrorists which are all Muslims are hell bent on the destruction of Israel. This goes back to the Bible days and the off spring of Hagar. It is a spiritual hate passed down through the generations. I feel sorry for the Jews and what they have gone through but in the end they will prevail with God's help.
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Thinker221 year, 5 months ago
> The terrorists which are all Muslims...
Usually, false assumptions lead to false conclusions. While the majority of terrorists are indeed Muslims there were also Japanese terrorists, German terrorists, Christian terrorists (George Habash, for example), Jewish terrorists (Baruch Goldstein), etc.
Not ALL terrorists are Muslims but ALMOST ALL are.
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hyperbola1 year, 5 months ago
You are a misfit in the mideast. Why don't you keep your racism in Brooklyn and get out of the way of peace in Palesteine.
Reflections of an Arab Jew
Religion â;; Zionism is destroying much of judaism. For Sephardic (oriental) jews, Israel does not represent aliya (ascent), but rather a yerida (descent). Oriental-Sephardic peace movements not only call for a just peace for Israelis and Palestinians, but also for the cultural, political, and economic integration of Israel/Palestine into the Middle East.
http://religion.propeller.com/story/2008/02/04/...
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engineer1 year, 5 months ago
There will never be peace until Hamas and other evil terrorist organizations decide to get along.
Thanks for the post israeligirl
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cherev1 year, 5 months ago
"There will never be peace until Hamas and other evil terrorist organizations decide to get along."
I gave you a positive vote, engineer, because I know your heart's in the right place. Realistically, however, there can never be peace with these organizations. Even if they renounced their methods, as Fatah did, justice demands that they be held accountable for their terrorist acts. Israel has "made peace" with Fatah, but what are the results? Murderers go free. There will never be peace with that kind of mentality.
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hyperbola1 year, 5 months ago
Actually we need to start get rid of the terrorists infesting the american government.
Willl McCain Continue the ZionCon Treason Against America?
Politics â;; There is high level corruption in the US government involving Turkey and Israel. Many officials involved are neocons who cooked the books to rush to war against Iraq and who continue to urge more wars in the Mid-East, most notably against Iran and Syria. Several of them are close allies of leading GOP presidential candidate John McCain.
http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/02/05/...
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cherev1 year, 5 months ago
All terrorists, and their supporters, suppliers, appeasers, and apologists, must be exterminated or there will never be peace.
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hyperbola1 year, 5 months ago
Let's start with the terrorists that have the most victims - the zionists. Here are israeli and american jews telling us about the zionists.
The Ethnic Cleansing Goes On
Do No Evil â;; It's not about a clash between Jews and Palestinians. It's matter of colonialism. Today there are opinion movements of young Jews, in Europe and in the US, who point the finger at Israel's colonialist policies and accuse it as a colonialist and racist state, not because it is a state founded by Jews."
http://donoevil.propeller.com/story/2008/01/21/...
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hyperbola1 year, 5 months ago
Well rdy, if you had taken the trouble to read the articles, you would have seen that both were written by jews, one israeli and one american.
I suggest to you that these are two jews who have escaped "the banality of evil"
"""The Banality of Evil is a phrase coined in 1963 by Hannah Arendt in her work Eichmann in Jerusalem. It describes the thesis that the great evils in history generally, and the Holocaust in particular, were not executed by fanatics or sociopaths but rather by ordinary people who accepted the premises of their state and therefore participated with the view that their actions were normal."""
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banality_of_evil
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walden31 year, 5 months ago
From the Hamas charter, "The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews (and kill them); until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: O Muslim! there is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him! This will not apply to the Gharqad, which is a Jewish tree (cited by Bukhari and Muslim)."
"Article Thirteen: Peaceful Solutions, [Peace] Initiatives and International Conferences
[Peace] initiatives, the so-called peaceful solutions, and the international conferences to resolve the Palestinian problem, are all contrary to the beliefs of the Islamic Resistance Movement."
http://www.palestinecenter.org/cpap/documents/c...
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walden31 year, 5 months ago
There you go again classifying people based on religion. YOU are part of the problem. YOU represent the banality of evil by not speaking out against vicious murders who kill innocents to promote their own cause. You are a good German.
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hyperbola1 year, 5 months ago
From ethical, moral jews who condemned the racist, colonialist zionist sect from the beginning.
Jewish Criticism of Zionism
... Ahad Ha-am (Hebrew for "One of the People" and the pen name for Asher Ginzberg), one of the greatest Jewish thinkers of this century, was also highly critical of Zionism.10 He drew attention to the fundamental and neglected ethical dilemma of Zionism, namely the presence of the Arabs. In his 1891 report, The Truth from Palestine, he pointed out that "there was little untilled soil in Palestine, except for stony hills and sand dunes." Ahad Ha-am also warned the Jewish settlers against arousing the wrath of the large native Arab population:
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walden31 year, 5 months ago
Once again, you posted these same exact comments on a thread yesterday. Are you aware that spam is a violation of the terms of use? You best start coming up with your own opinion and thoughts.
Even more so I cite the Hamas charter and rather then respond to that you go off on another tangent.
What does any of this haveto do with the Hams Charter or the suicide bombing?
That's right, you never answer questions. You just spew hate.
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Commodore11 year, 5 months ago
Hamas and the Palestinians just don't want peace. At least their psycho government doesn't. They should watch out. Israel doesn't take crap like this any more. They should retaliate immediately and strongly w/air assaults and take out known terrorist strongholds. Palestinian muslims make all muslims look bad.
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hyperbola1 year, 5 months ago
After a century of zionist ethnic cleansing, and over 7 million christian and moslem victims of zionist racism, it is not surprising christian and moslem palestinians have realized they will have to fight for their freedom.
Do you believe in racist ethnic cleansing?
Forced Migration Review
Department of International Development
University of Oxford
Palestinian displacement: a case apart?
...The great majority of the seven million Palestinian refugees still live within 100km of the borders of Israel, the West Bank and the Gaza Strip where their homes of origin are located. They are refugees because Israel â;; committed to a permanent Jewish majority and granting citizenship to any member of the Jewish diaspora â;; denies Palestinians their basic human right to return to their homes of origin. Palestinians may be the world's largest refugee population, yet...
http://www.fmreview.org/FMRpdfs/FMR26/FMR26full...
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joeblowe1 year, 5 months ago
Just another illustration: If EVERYONE in the middle East were to simply give up their religion - of ANY flavor - there WOULD be peace. They would all just be PEOPLE instead of "Jews" or "Muslims" or "Christians." The trouble is, having a religion automatically makes you too stupid (in most cases) to give it up. It's a sorry mess that they just can't see the simple solutions to because of religious blindness.
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hyperbola1 year, 5 months ago
Actually christians, jews and moslems were all part of the same mid-east (arab) culture before the racist zionists arrived from eastern europe. The problem is not so much religion as when one group begins peddling the same kind of super-mensch and unter-mensch ideology that hitler used and that zionists imbibed in eastern curope and brought to the mideast.
It is instructive to read what mid-east jews have to say about the zionist disaster and I highly recommend this article.
Reflections of an Arab Jew
Religion â»» Zionism is destroying much of judaism. For Sephardic (oriental) jews, Israel does not represent aliya (ascent), but rather a yerida (descent). Oriental-Sephardic peace movements not only call for a just peace for Israelis and Palestinians, but also for the cultural, political, and economic integration of Israel/Palestine into the Middle East.
http://religion.propeller.com/story/2008/02/04/...
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Thinker221 year, 5 months ago
> Just another illustration: If EVERYONE in the middle East were to simply give up their religion - of ANY flavor - there WOULD be peace. They would all just be PEOPLE instead of "Jews" or "Muslims" or "Christians."
Not at all. Even if all people in the Middle East would give up their religion there still will be Arabs and Jews... and the Arabs will hate the Jews.
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hyperbola1 year, 5 months ago
Kind of ironic isn't it that the very organization the zionists encouraged in order to weaken christian and moslem resistance to zionist ethnic cleansing has now turned out to be their worst nightmare.
Hamas, Son of Israel
The Israelis birthed and nurtured their Islamist nemesis
Amid all the howls of pain and gnashing of teeth over the triumph of Hamas in the Palestinian elections, one fact remains relatively obscure, albeit highly relevant: Israel did much to launch Hamas as an effective force in the occupied territories. If ever there was a clear case of "blowback," then this is it. As Richard Sale pointed out in a piece for UPI:
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abntv1 year, 5 months ago
Sorry hyper you have been blocked for a long time now. So rant all you want.
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abntv1 year, 5 months ago
If you have any question as to why there has been no settlement of the fighting in the middle east. Just read hyperola's comments...it is thinking like his that bars any kind of civil discussion. which is why I blocked hyper three months ago.
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Isoparm1 year, 5 months ago
You are absolutely right Hyperbola about the dynamic taking place in israel. This is a universe of cause and effect. The invasion/occupation of Palestine by white people from Europe is morally equivalent to Hitler's occupation of Europe in WWII. Only a bigot would deny this. This is the cause of the problem. Hamas is the effect, or reaction from this imposition. More and more Americans are waking up to this reality. You keep going Hyperbola.
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walden31 year, 5 months ago
When Israel starts pushing Palestinians into gas chambers, when Israel Blitzkriegs accross Egytp, Jordan, Syria, when Israel ....oh never mind.
Speaking of cause and effect, whatwas the cause and effect of this "invasion" as you term it, or do you only choose to look back as far as suits you?
What's your solution?
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zimm1 year, 5 months ago
And take a look at this....
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1202...
The so-called "moderate" Palistinians of the West Bank (NOT the more extreme ones in Gaza) are busy using their Abbas controlled, state-run newspapers to GLORIFY the terrorists who perpetrated the suicide bombing in Dimona yesterday.
Tell me how you make peace with folks like this...
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walden31 year, 5 months ago
Anyone see this story?
"Thousands of Muslims Celebrate In Streets Of Gaza Upon News Of Dimona Homicide Attacks' Success
See for yourself in this video as palestinians in Gaza celebrate the double suicide attack in Dimona Monday by passing out flowers and candy, while giving praise to Allah.
As news of the attacks spread, drivers honked horns and passersby laughed with joy.
A Hamas spokesperson thanked Allah the attacks were successful, calling the bombings a 'glorious act.' Islamic Jihad took the same approach. It predicted that this year would be the year of bombings.
"In the name of Allah, may all of the attacks be like this. That will exterminate [the Israelis]. It will be easier for us. We will reach the South, Tel-Aviv and the heart of Israel([search]) ," an unidentified man in Gaza said."
http://www.stlimc.org/newswire/display/4183/ind...
You'd be hard pressed to find Israelis celebrating the death of Palestinians. There's a difference.
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Isoparm1 year, 5 months ago
Don't Jews celebrate their resistance to oppression over the centuries? Wasn't this resistance violent? You honor those Jews that participated in the Jewish uprising against Nazi oppression in the ghettos of Warsaw. How is that any different? One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.
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zimm1 year, 5 months ago
The Palestinians did the same routine of dancing in the streets and passing out candy after hearing the news of the 9/11 attacks in New York.
Of course this was made even more interesting by the fact that soon afterwards, Arabs were arguing that it was ISRAEL who was actually behind the bombing of the World Trade Center towers, of course NOT the 19 Muslim hijackers and Al Qaida who actually took credit for the attacks!
These guys have propaganda down to quite an art form!
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RothWelt1 year, 5 months ago
We pay a lot of attention to Islamic extremism, but we don't pay a lot of attention to Christian extremism or the extremism in the Jewish religion that is being used to justify what is going on today.
To the West, martyrdom has a really bad connotation because of suicide bombers (mostly instigated by MOSSAD, or CIA) the real martyrdom is actually something that historically was quite noble because it was about standing up and rejecting tyranny, rejecting injustice and rejecting oppression and, if necessary, dying for that.
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Thinker221 year, 4 months ago
> Will Israel invade the Gaza strip and crush them once and for all...?
Probably not. Such invasion would result in hundreds of thousands of dead Palestinian and Israel will not give the terrorists such a pleasure.
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RothWelt1 year, 4 months ago
In the period of the Christian pogroms against the Jews who, upon being expelled from Spain, found refuge amidst Muslim communities around the Mediterranean and in Mesopotamia.. Western-Christian forces invade Muslim countries, kill innocent children, women and men by the tens of thousands..the Jewish Democracy uses the Bible to justify its very existence, kills thousands of Palestinians, dispossesses them of their land, their dignity, and their means of earning a decent living to feed their families.
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Thinker221 year, 4 months ago
> Jewish Democracy uses the Bible to justify its very existence...
I'm not sure what you're talking about but please feel free to justify the existence of your own country. Then I'll justify the existence of Israel in no less convincing terms.
> ...kills thousands of Palestinians...
People are being killed during ANY war. The war between Israel and the Palestinians is rather an exception because the number of Palestinians killed during an average day of the Intifadah is only 2 (TWO!) per day proving that Israel is doing everything humanly possible to save Palestinian lives.
> ...dispossesses them of their land...
This is another lie. Since 1948 the number of Arabs in Palestine increased five times and the numbed of Arabs in Israel increased TEN TIMES. Are you saying that all these Arabs live hanging in thin air?
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Thinker221 year, 4 months ago
> ...their dignity, and their means of earning a decent living to feed their families.
A sovereign independent state was offered to the Palestinian Arabs in 1948, 1967, 1978, 2000, 2001 and they've rejected it every single time. If they've elected to have a peaceful state of their own where they would be able to live in peace, dignity and earn a decent living to feed their families they would have just that.
Unfortunately, the Palestinians elected war, misery, violence and terrorism and got exactly what they've asked for.
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RothWelt1 year, 4 months ago
The love affair between conservative Christians and Israel's hawkish head of state seems unlikely, but mutual interests notoriously make for strange bedfellows. Many fundamentalist Christians embrace the state of Israel because of its role in their own end-of-time theology. For its part, the right wing in Israel welcomes the economic and political support it receives from conservative Christians around the world and particularly in the United States..Others who don't subscribe to the end-of-time theology of dispensational premillennialism worry that the agenda pushed by the tactical alliance between Jewish and Christian fundamentalists will transform the Israeli-Palestinian conflict from a battle between two nationalities into a war of civilizations that will engulf the world.
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RothWelt1 year, 4 months ago
In the so-called war on terror we seem to be at war with Islamic fundamenta... Islamists,... extremists,Violent Muslims, Islamic terrorists,jihadists. This is wrong. We are not fighting Muslims. We have fallen into the Rothschild (Bin Laden,MOSSAD,CIA,M16) trap.
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RothWelt1 year, 4 months ago
Rothschild's tools (Bin Laden and his henchmen) have hijacked Islam perverted it into a religion of hatred, death and martyrdom and used it as a means to gain absolute control over the Middle East, America and eventually the New world.
Islam is not the enemy. Zioniest Bankers and the other terrorists are the enemy. This is not a religious war. It is a conflict with international gangsters who use terror to achieve their Hellish goals.
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RothWelt1 year, 4 months ago
Christian and Jewish cultures are no more advanced than Muslim cultures, or no less developed if you prefer. The only difference seems to be that technology and relative wealthy comfort have served to mask the West's moral under-development that leads Westerners to believe that their lives are infinitely more valuable than those of their darker skinned brethren.
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RothWelt1 year, 4 months ago
The question of suicide was even more problematic. There is no theological support for such action in Islam indeed, it is expressly prohibited. Do not kill yourself the Quran states. The hadith, or sayings of the Prophet, are replete with instances in which Mohammad condemns the action. The specific punishment for the suicide is to burn in hell and to be forever in the act of dying by means of the same instrument that was used to take his life. Even when one of his bravest warriors was severely wounded in battle and hurled himself upon his sword only to relieve his terrible suffering, Mohammad declared that he was damned. A man may do the deeds of the people of the Fire while in fact he is one of the people of Paradise, and he may do the deeds of the people of Paradise when in fact he belongs to the people of Fire, the Prophet observed. Verily, the rewards of the deeds are decided by the last actions.
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