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Posted By Eagle_Eye 1 year, 9 months ago in Science & TechnologyThis program by National Geographic discusses the POTENTIAL effect of global warming on the planet, one degree at a time over the NEXT 100 years.
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Eagle_Eye1 year, 9 months ago
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Here is a reminder about the program I posted last week that National Geographic is presenting regarding the POTENTIAL effects of Climate Change of only 6 degrees over the course of the next 100 years.
Before any one decides to start shooting at me, please watch the program before making any judgement's or comments about the Sun, Mars ice caps, etc.
Thanks
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lovemylibs1 year, 9 months ago
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http://www.thedailygreen.com/environmental-news...
Sorry for the mix-up.
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Eagle_Eye1 year, 9 months ago
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I just learned some thing new. I had no idea that the oceans were responsible for cleaning our air like they said! I always thought it was more the rain forests.
But their description of the small sea creatures absorbing the Co2 to form their shells was intriguing. Now with too much CO2 it is making the water acidic eating the shells away and killing these small critters that absorb the CO2.
Fascinating how the world works.
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Centinel1 year, 9 months ago
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I have watched the program. Thus far I have seen and heard much narration and dramatic visual effects and very little explanatory science. Alarmist style programming. I will admit that a 6 degree Centigrade increase in average global temperatures would be world changing. However, 1-2 degrees would not melt the arctic ice. Reduce it, yes. but not so drastically as is dramatized in the program.
Furthermore, the available fossil fuels are finite. Once they are gone, much of the problem associated with them will go away with them.
We Americans have already reduced significantly our CO2 emissions through vehicle emission reduction and stack scrubbers. Yet we seem to be the scapegoats. WHY? We have the money!
CO2 is widely blamed as the major contributing factor. Trees and rain reduce CO2 levels. We may not be able to increase rainfall except through generating rain forests but we can plant an awful lot of trees.
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Eagle_Eye1 year, 9 months ago
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I have to disagree with you there, didn't you understand the part of "Carbon Foot Print" and CO2???
How about the part of our Oceans in cleaning the air but there is to much pollution and CO2 in the ocean for the little critters to absorb and clean??
How about the fact that over 14k French died in the last heat wave??
How about the fact that the Ice Caps are melting but rivers are drying up???
How about the fact that the storm systems are getting more violent?
How about the fact the Amazon River Forest and Basin is shrinking?
How about the fact that the western US is in the worse draught in a Century?
How about you watch it again and be sure to catch all the "scientific" facts presented...the facts are that the trees and critters that clean the CO2 levels are being affected by human carbon footprints...
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Centinel1 year, 9 months ago
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Yes, throughout the program I was bombarded repeatedly that we humans are the "PRIMARY" cause. BS! That is both megalomaniacal and downright audacious. There are many factors. Not just human CO2 emissions! The Amazon river forest basin is being cut or burnt down. Not dying from drought.
Carbon footprint? All life on planet earth is carbon based. That is quite a footprint.
The planet can and will clean itself up. What we need to do is give it the chance by not exceeding its ability to do so at its rate.
Ice caps melting? Rivers drying up? Natural climatic changes. The earthquake that caused the huge pacific tsunami caused a slight change in the earth's axis. This is not something humans could do anything about.
Cosmic events contribute as well. The sun has been generating more heat and our orbit around it is becoming more concentric. Jupiter was hit with Shoemaker Levy 9. The plums were visible for months. This would affect Earths gravity. Cosmic events.
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Eagle_Eye1 year, 9 months ago
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Searchbeam1 year, 9 months ago
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EE,
These "trolls" remind me of a bundle of seasonings that they used to add a to a kettle of stew or soup, to be taken out when done!
They add some flavor, but after they are thoroughly cooked, they are ready to be tossed out!
It is that "cooking" part that makes it a fun thing!
LOL!
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Centinel1 year, 9 months ago
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There are many solutions to the problem that are inexpensive. However, with an economy going down the tubes a vast number of people do not have the resources to convert to renewable energy sources. The oil and coal cartels have a stranglehold on energy.
Our current economic situation will not support expensive investment into renewable energy sources and those in control of conventional energy sources have no intention of investing their "record profits" into less profit making sources. They can't sell sunshine or wind or water. Only harness it and sell it converted into energy. They can profit from commodities like coal and oil which they have to "buy" and pass the cost onto the consumer, at a profit!
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Eagle_Eye1 year, 9 months ago
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Natureboy1 year, 9 months ago
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I have to agree with Centinel to some degree here - individuals have limited power - you can swap your gas-guzzling SUV for something more benign, and put fluorescent lights in your home, but your home is still a long ways from where you work and public transportation in this country is for the most part somewhere between inadequate and absent. Unless you grow your own food or buy at a farmer's market, the food you eat still travels on the average nearly 2,000 miles to reach you. And the produce you eat is still grown using petrochemical-intensive methods.
The change that is needed is much more radical than that which an urban individual can achieve on his/her own.
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Searchbeam1 year, 9 months ago
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Natureboy,
You make a very valid point. That is the curse of the freedom of our mobility!
But help is on the way!
The Air Car - developed by renowned racing car experts - which runs on compressed air, is ready to go into mass production. With an estimated range of about 200 km and operating cost of around $2 for a tankful of compressed air, the operating cost per km comes to about $0.01 per km or roughly about $o.o13 per mile, not counting purchase price, normal maintenance and recurring expenses like tires, and mandatory expenses like registration and insurance.
What comes out of the exhaust is clean air, and you get air-conditioning as a freebie.
They even have an optional on-board tiny engine that keeps on charging the tank, increasing its range to hundreds of miles!
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Searchbeam1 year, 9 months ago
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Currently, Tata Motors of India, the largest automotive and industrial conglomerate in India, has licensed the technology and are in the process of further refinements, and are expected to bring it to market within the next couple of years. Their first thrust seems to be geared towards urban taxicabs that tend to pollute the most!
The same company also recently showed its micro car Nano, which is currently in production. It is expected to give about 60 mpg. It has seating capacity of 4.
Yes! Progress is, indeed, being made! Let's keep our ears to the ground.
Peace and Blessings!
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Eagle_Eye1 year, 9 months ago
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I did learn A LOT more about Climate Change with this program.
I found it most interesting how much damage is done by just a few degrees rise in temperature.
And I am really glad we don't eat Beef so we are not contributors to that Methane/Beef Carbon Foot Print, it is huge!!! The foot print of a "Cheese Burger" was astounding!
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Centinel1 year, 9 months ago
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I will give the show some credit. It did include water vapor as a greenhouse gas. I think that was the first time I can remember that this was mentioned by proponents of "Global Warming". Bravo! The show actually illustrated how increasing water vapor content would cause self perpetuating increased warming.
However I still take exception to its statement "global warming started with our use of fossil fuels". Started! That is a narrow statement if I ever heard one.
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Ronmelin1 year, 9 months ago
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Instead of focussing in on global warming(guessing what is going to happen), focus on glacial cycles and ice ages(things that have already happened). On the PBS series called NOVA, they have found that the planet has not always had ice caps and trees grew in both the artic and antartic. We were not even here when this happened.
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tkyrchncs1 year, 9 months ago
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The most significant statement you made is "We were not even here". Well, boy are we here now. More than 6.5B. I find it interesting that nobody has mentioned the most powerful and lasting thing humans could do to change our effect on the environment is to limit our numbers.
Check your facts on tree growth. Trees have grown on the land mass now in Antarctica but it was not at the southern pole at that time. The same is true of the land masses near the arctic. Trees have never grown at the poles.
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tkyrchncs1 year, 9 months ago
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Those who say the earth will recover should understand that recovery is a point of view. The first life forms on this planet changed the atmosphere from an methane reducing atmosphere to a nitrox oxidizing one that WE need, but is poisonous to most of them. While I think it unlikely (not impossible) for us to destroy life on this planet, it is within easy reach to make it uninhabitable by our species and similar ones, and we seem to be working diligently on doing just that. I shouldn't have watched. I know what we're doing, and it depresses me to inaction to see it. What could I possibly do that would make one whit of difference?
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Eagle_Eye1 year, 9 months ago
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"the earth will recover", that is true, however, it will take millions of years for it to recycle the CO2 we have created.
Did any one catch the point made that the fuel we use today was created during the Crestatious period (Dinosaurs) and buried deep in the earth. We pulled it out and are using it as fuel creating another environment that killed the dinosaurs. I thought that was interesting.
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Searchbeam1 year, 9 months ago
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tkyrchncs,
Fortunately for us Americans, there is something we can do this November.
Elect the people who care about our planet, and who are willing to be the trustees for the future of our children, grandchildren and the planet.
That will give us at least a fighting chance to put a stop to this downward spiral!
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Amazing11 year, 9 months ago
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Thank you, EE. Saw it last night. And there are things that we all can do. Small things. I take the stairs at work. Better for me and saves the energy being used by the elevator.
We could all help in many small ways. It would not only improve our own health, it would improve the health of the planet.
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Eagle_Eye1 year, 9 months ago
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Thanks A1, that was my point in the beginning of the post, each of us can do small things to lessen the impact of Carbon Foot Prints like stop eating Cheese Burgers, lol
If a cheese burger can have that big of a foot print, think about all the other things we eat out.
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pismo1 year, 9 months ago
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Let's just say (for this discussion) humans are not the reason for global warming and according the show there could be and probably are many factors. We had better do something anyway to reduce the consumption of crude or guess what?.... when we run out there is going to be a major upset in our lives anyway. Take a look around you and figure out how many things are plastic or require plastic components for them to be affordable or be produced period. It's not so much the warming that concerns me right now. It's the future of the worlds economy. Get out your flint rocks......
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Searchbeam1 year, 9 months ago
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EE,
Thank you for your very responsible and enlightening post.
To all those who want to ignore the facts and insist on thinking that Global Warming is a myth, it will be good for you to understand and respect the laws of Physics.
Thermodynamics is a branch of Physics. The word "thermodynamics" literally means mechanical energy created by heat.
In a closed system, the Laws of conservation of energy apply.
With CO2 and other greenhouse gases creating a blanket in the upper portion of the atmosphere, the heat that comes from the Sun does not get a chance to escape out. As a result, more and more heat energy is being trapped under this blanket. This causes our planet to be an open system, but open only one way. Therefore, the Laws of Conservation of Energy do not apply in this case.
This extra heat trapped under the blanket of greenhouse gases is energy, and it has to do something.
It does two things:
1. It raises the temperature of the planet as a whole, and
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Searchbeam1 year, 9 months ago
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2. This excess energy creates mechanical forces that are beyond what had been normal for millenia. These mechanical forces take the form of wind, excessive moisture moving up in the atmosphere and causing thunderstorms and lightening.
Using the principles of physics, we can understand and relate to the effects of such phenomena. They are caused by this excess heat energy, and the energy pool is growing rapidly.
The consequences of this dramatic increase are something we are witnessing right now:
a. Severe shifts in weather patterns
b. Major environmental catastrophes such as droughts and floods
c. Redistribution of moisture, causing massive rains as well as creating new arid areas
d. Increase in global temperature (subject of the NG Documentary)
e. Rise in sea level because of melting Polar Ice caps and ice shelves.
These are all discernible facts. We can observe them.
Those amongst us who choose to hide the rooster would not be able to stop the Sun from rising!
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Cityslicker1 year, 9 months ago
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Gullible Warning , 68 car pile up due to BLINDING SNOW .
http://news.aol.com/story/_a/68-vehicle-crash-k...
I can't believe intelligent people get sucked into such blatant deceit and conjecture .
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Centinel1 year, 9 months ago
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Intelligent people? I call them gullible people. Gullible people "get sucked into such blatant deceit and conjecture".
We have a nation where a vast majority of the population is gullible. Why do you think we vote so unintelligently?
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Searchbeam1 year, 9 months ago
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Cs,
There is huge difference between isolated climatic events and a universal trend! The trend is unmistakably towards Global Warming.
If you choose to read on this subject or watch An Inconvenient Truth, you will get a much better understanding.
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