Hillary Clinton refuses to release tax returns »
Posted By Aidenag 1 year, 4 months ago in NewsResisting calls from Barack Obama to release her income tax returns, Hillary Rodham Clinton said Monday she would only do so if she secures the Democratic presidential nomination and contended her rival had been less than candid about his relationship with major campaign contributors.
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Aidenag1 year, 4 months ago
Seems Hillary isnt willing to give the same level of disclosure to the voters that Barack is... Should have expected this. Especially with her new strategy of trying to paint Obama as the "Establishment" candidate. If she disclosed her tax returns that entire strategy would belly flop instantly.
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mesodude1 year, 4 months ago
I'm just stunned this is still a story of burning interest to cons when Bushco is spying on them, making secret deals with the energy corps, hiding millions of e-mails, billions in stolen Iraq occupation money and lord knows what else, It's like right wingers live in a parallel universe. Did any of them hold Chimp to these standards prior to voting for him TWICE? The answer is HELL NO.
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BronxBomber1 year, 4 months ago
Why is she putting up certain conditions on this inquiry? What doe she got to hide? It seems like all she done in NY is make a lucrative book deal. I don't hear nothing else from her.
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MisterX1 year, 4 months ago
Hillary didn't do much at all for NY. She's not doing much of anything right now. Her campaign machine is in overdrive, working 24/7. They're playing numbers games to assure her nomination. God help us all if she gets in.
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AntiNeoCon1 year, 4 months ago
Hillary has her assets hidden somewhere in the Bronx. Probably at BronxBombers pad. :O) Watch those Dodger jokes buddy, we know where you live...!! j/k
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mesodude1 year, 4 months ago
"It seems like all she done in NY is make a lucrative book deal. I don't hear nothing else from her."
--And yet, oddly, she has been repeatedly elected by New Yorkers by wide margins. I guess you're just among the tiny minority of New Yorkers with unique and special powers to discern the failure and incompetence others can't see. Lucky you...
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gamahuche1 year, 4 months ago
My prediction of the day:
The first headlines with messages like "Hillarys Campaign in Meltdown" are not far distant.
The disaffected Reps who are not happy with McCain would also NEVER vote for Hillary. So they either abstain or..
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Georgia501 year, 4 months ago
Abstention here. Can't cast a vote for someone who wants to lead a country whose borders he/she refuses to defend.
Should my friends prevail in insisting I vote (and they have compelling arguments), it's going to be a Democratic vote. At least with Hillary or Obama they are loyal to their party and idiot-ology. Maybe the Dem nominee should really freak us all out and name McCain as their VP nominee.
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MisterX1 year, 4 months ago
If worse comes to worse, all she'll have to do is cry on CNN. The support will come pouring in.
I just read somewhere that, if a Dem takes office, we'll be seeing the end of conservative controversial radio talk shows.
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bruhaha1 year, 4 months ago
Some of the concern now, is that now that she is dipping into her personal funds (actually hers and Bills), where are those funds coming from.
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Aidenag1 year, 4 months ago
I would have to disagree MidnightPrism. Full disclosure is never a bad thing, especially when a person is running for president. It is in everyones best interest to know where every candidate running made their fortunes, or who is giving them money. Gives us the voter, a better idea of what to expect of the candidate if they do become president.
What if a candidate made millions off forclosing low income families homes? Or what if they have been profiting off the Iraq war by investing in say Halliburton? Or profited by damaging the environment? wouldnt you want to know about that? It's the type of thing that would most definitely affect how i voted. and i would be very unhappy to find out only after my vote was cast, if i was supporting someone who made money via means i do not support.
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Georgia501 year, 4 months ago
How does a tax return disclose that information? The income tax is imposed on "all income from whatever source derived." In some cases, income she foregoes or assets that produce no income need not be disclosed on a tax return. And by the way, any two-bit hourly wage clerk in the NYDT&F (or any state revenue dept. she files with) or IRS can look up her return.
I could ask how libs would respond to a conservative GOP candidate who made a similar refusal, but I think we all know how libs would react in that scenario.
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marshx1 year, 4 months ago
perhaps she should say that, not tell people she'll release them only if they vote for her first!
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Sludge-Guzzler1 year, 4 months ago
Refusing to disclose? This will be another nail in her coffin.
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Georgia501 year, 4 months ago
How ironic...the Clintons had no qualms whatsoever perusing the tax returns of their perceived political foes.
Still, where's the justice in all this? Bill Clinton lies through his teeth about the burning of black churches in his Arkansas youth...seems that **should** count for something in the black community.
Hillary meltdown: "We LIED for you dammit! You owe us!!"
Simply priceless.
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CORVIDIVS1 year, 4 months ago
IF ONLY I WERE ALLOWED to vote,alas,I am not a Canadian Native,just a normal Canuck;but something visceral twisted in me last night watching Michele Obama on Larry King.And had I the chance,my hopes would now be for Obama instead of Hillary.I was romanced by the idea of a first woman leader, - [a concept which might paralyze parties to a faith that condones subjugation of women] - a thing long awaiting as America slowly grows up, but most of the better generals are Mustangs,And Barak fits that to a "T".Look at his ability to unite,his unwavering conviction.Born to lead,and I fear for his life.He's in for the count,will make mistakes,(if not the requisite ones),get back up, and sally forth...Or fifth,if that makes any difference...
AND OBAMA WILL HIE US away from this wretched 'dynasty' syndrome that has been enhancing things a bit much...
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MisterX1 year, 4 months ago
You gotta look at what you're slated to lose in this election. Could you stand watching your spending spiral further out of control, or would you prefer to watch that and get your taxes hiked along with it (it's all for the children, you know)?
What kind of SC judges would you rather have appointed real soon?
Too much here for me to list. I'm too tired right now.
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ZiegfeldGirl1 year, 4 months ago
When one's hands are clean, one does not hesitate to hold them out, palm up, for inspection.
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RedstateLib1 year, 4 months ago
She already disclosed the information in her Senate ethics filing. So Obama is going into the gutter with a strawman issue. I thought he wasn't going to run that type of campaign. So much for integrity. He is as bad as the Republicans. I have always been kind of split between the two leaning towards Hillary but the more I see of him the less his talk matches his actions. He is politics as usual.
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joey-evans1 year, 4 months ago
Redstate,
I concur....it amazes me how many have fallen for the Obama ruse. Karl Rove is licking his chops waiting for the opportunity to have at Obama.
JOEY EVANS
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chevydog1 year, 4 months ago
On one hand, there's the attitude "If she hasn't done anything wrong, what's the problem with releasing them?"
IMHO, this wrecks havoc with innocent until proven guilty.
On the other hand, the tax code is so convoluted that it's silly. Almost anyone with multiple sources of income who has a home office and may itemize can be found by someone, somewhere to have done something "questionable". To me, it's all a red herring; and a major reason why many able people don't even want to deal with political office.
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RedstateLib1 year, 4 months ago
Glass houses:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/sweet/635462,CST-N...
"Sometimes Obama has come late to the game. He did not stop taking rides on subsidized corporate jets until the week he was tapped to be the Democrats' chief spokesman on ethics in January 2006. In 2005, Obama took 23 such private aircraft flights, some to attend fund-raisers he headlined. In 2006, Obama led the fight to ban lawmakers from taking cut-rate private air travel.
On other fronts, the Obama transparency record is lacking.
* * An Obama spokesman, Ben Labolt, last week declined to say where Obama's records from his years in the Illinois State Senate are located. There is no law mandating the state to archive the records. The records from Obama's office -- if he kept them -- would potentially show appointments with lobbyists, policy memos, meetings, etc."
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RedstateLib1 year, 4 months ago
"* * Obama has supported more earmark disclosure to bolster government transparency. Last June, Obama disclosed the earmarks he requested for Illinois and national interests. However, his office, after repeated requests since June, has yet to disclose earmarks Obama sought in 2006, before he was running for president.
* * Obama does list the names of hundreds of bundlers -- people committed to raising at least $50,000 for the campaign -- on his Web site. He brags about the disclosure on the stump.
But that's literally all Obama does, list a name. No cities or states, information that is available to his campaign. Some names are well known because the bundlers are celebrities or longtime activists. But it's a big country, and there are more than one Bob Clark and Lou Cohen. Just listing a name does lip service to meaningful disclosure."
Glass Houses
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RedstateLib1 year, 4 months ago
I would have no problem with him calling her out on this if it were accurate or if he was really laying everything out there the way he claims, but this double standard is crazy. He is becoming the "do as I say not as I do candidate". This is very familiar because this is the way the Bush machine has run things since 2000. I am beginning fear the only change we will see is the face and it will be the same old same old as the last seven years. Can anyone point to one thing he has actually "done" that proves this wrong. Don't tell me what he said tell me what he did.
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joeblowe1 year, 4 months ago
I've been mentioning this since he started. Her too, for that matter.
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joey-evans1 year, 4 months ago
L.O.L.
You are right on, Red.
Keep on talking because more people need to hear/read about what Obama is really about...not just what he SAYS what he is about. Big difference. I hope people wake up and really examine him AND Hill because this is our best opportunity for CHANGE...AHhhhh, that magic word everyone is throwing around, but few are actually saying what KIND of change. Let's not blow this now.
JOEY EVANS
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joeblowe1 year, 4 months ago
I'm not sure that any person's tax return or income is any of our freaking business. Wait. Yes I am... IT IS NOT! Except for the part where they are on OUR payroll, that is.
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KYRed1 year, 4 months ago
I'd like to add that Cheney divested himself of all his holdings in Haliburton, but that doesn't stop people from complaining, perhaps rightly so, that his policies and practices help Haliburton. So, where the money comes from or has come from in the past does indeed make a difference in who I should vote for.
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Dionys1 year, 4 months ago
It doesn't stop him from returning to Haliburton at a later point based on promises from Haliburton that once he's out of office he's guaranteed a job paid for by the money he gave them through no-bid contracts.
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Will13131 year, 4 months ago
I'd like to add that Cheney divested himself of all his holdings in Haliburton,
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no he didn't .. he has 100,000 unexercised options.. that were worth around 250K when he got them..
7-9 MILLION NOW>..
His financial disclosure... he is going to donate any profit to charity.. but was not going to until he was called out on it by Frank Lautenburg... he also owns the Vanguard Group Mutual Fund.. one of their largest holdings... HALIBURTON...
http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/pfd2006/N000062...
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RedstateLib1 year, 4 months ago
If anybody thinks I am picking on him I am not. I have defended him many times when people have tried to spread lies about him. I am merely doing what he has asked all of us to do "hold him accountable". Seems many on here claim they want our elected officials to be held accountable but really only want to hold accountable those that they oppose. Got a news flash for you that's not change. That is exactly the way things have been for the last seven years.
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questionseverything1 year, 4 months ago
After the former first lady acknowledged she had lent her campaign $5 million in personal funds, Sen. Obama suggested she release her tax records as he has done to give voters a better accounting of where her money comes from.
he has released his returns...how is that not open and honest?
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amazed1 year, 4 months ago
It is no wonder we can't get anyone worthwhile to run for anything in this country.
First, the campaign is soooo long you have to put your life on hold for over two years and it's going to cost you about a bazillion dollars to get a job that supposedly pays, what>? $250K. Seriously, Mitt spent $40m of his own money for a $250K job. Nope, no one who runs could POSSIBLY be thinking about enhancing their own fortunes from the position. Look at the Clintons, they didn't even own a HOUSE when they came into the Presidency the first time and HOW many millions did they have to find a home for when they liquidated? (Okay, maybe that one's not REALLY a drawback)
You have to disclose your medical records.
You have to disclose all your financial records AND tax returns.
Every stupid, not perfect thing you have ever done in your life is going to dragged out of your closet and bandied about-- and who has nothing in their life they would like to keep secret?
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swanka1 year, 4 months ago
As long as its a woman, we are scared like Obama,... of a woman President...cry babies.. "Oh I don't want a woman to beat me"....He says, I got to find something to break her down.....Mr Obama can't play fair with the girls.
I know where Hillary is hiding her stash...its under the subway... nana ..nana.. boo..boo!!
Hillary should be singing..float ..like butterfly..you can stomp on me, but you can't beat me.. No Tax return information... she says..try something, "whiner boy Barack"..
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riverdalian1 year, 4 months ago
Speaking of subways, why don't you go and kiss the third rail "skunka"?
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