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Posted By ZiegfeldGirl 1 year, 9 months ago in News"In recent days, there is a sense of movement and a sense of spirit," said Mr. Lewis, a Georgia Democrat who endorsed Mrs. Clinton last fall. "Something is happening in America, and people are prepared and ready to make that great leap."
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ZiegfeldGirl1 year, 9 months ago
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Bkumm1 year, 9 months ago
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As for where catstevens is getting her information, the author was an economic adviser to Reagan. Now, I know some conservatives think that Reagan could walk on water, but the fact is that his economics sucked IN THE LONG RUN (capitals for emphasis only, not shouting. When are we getting the ability to bold or italicize?). This 9 trillion dollar deficit staring us in the face is at least partially due to the monetary and economic policies of the 80's and 90's. We didn't spend money on infrastructure and clean energy technology we spent it on tax breaks (especially for the wealthy) and in building up the military.
We can't keep borrowing from the next generation forever.
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Bkumm1 year, 9 months ago
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And now a musical interlude:
The Jack
She gave me the Queen
She gave me the King
She was wheelin' and dealin'
Just doin' her thing
She was holdin' a pair
But I had to try
Her Deuce was wild
But my Ace was high
But how was I to know
That she'd been dealt with before
Said she'd never had a Full House
But I should have known
From the tattoo on her left leg
And the garter on her right
She'd have the card to bring me down
If she played it right
She's got the jack, she's got the jack
She's got the jack, she's got the jack
Poker face was her name
Poker face was her nature
Poker straight was her game
If she knew she could get you
She played 'em fast
And she played 'em hard
She could close her eyes
And feel every card
But how was I to know
That she'd been shuffled before
Said she'd never had a Royal Flush
But I should have known
That all the cards were comin'
From the bottom of the pack
And if I'd known what she was dealin' out
I'd have dealt it back
AC/DC FOREVER!!!!
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ZiegfeldGirl1 year, 9 months ago
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The erosion of support for Clinton is snowballing:
"Former Clinton campaign chief backs Obama"
"He made his name in politics, but when David Wilhelm talks about his newest campaign, the venture capitalist in him comes out.
What made him pass over Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y) the wife of his most famous client to endorse Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) on Wednesday for the Democratic presidential nomination?"
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/...
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Beau78901 year, 8 months ago
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David Wilhelm is no surprise. He, David Axelrod (a top Obama advisor) and Rep. Rahm Emanuel (another superdelegate) all came up together here in Chicago politics. Obama's a very popular senator from Illinois.
Chicago is nothing if not pragmatic, and its politics are even more so. All these guys know they'll be in better positions if Obama wins. Rahm hasn't announced his support for either Obama or Clinton yet, but I'll bet a year's pay that, barring a huge screwup on Obama's part, Emanuel will be with him at the convention.
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Cougarbyu1 year, 9 months ago
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Hillary is her own worst enemy. With her own words "America can't afford my solutions", she buried her campaign with moderates and most liberals, and most certainly, the conservatives. They know what a huge deficit we have due to the war, the downturn in our economy and the huge trade defecit we have with the ever growing power of China's trade advantage. If she has the solutions, just how much more will our children and grandchildren have to shell out to pay off her spending habits? Even though congress controlls the purse strings, can we really afford to have her wielding the power to spend the U.S. into oblivion as Bush, the "I never met a spending bill that I didn't like", is doing?
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simonsez1 year, 9 months ago
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I agree ... we should all be able to change our minds based on new information.
In this case, what's the new information.
1. He's leading ... she isn't. His constituents like him
better.
2. He may become the candidate ... let's be with the winner.
Character issues.
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Beau78901 year, 8 months ago
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Jeez, simonsez.
Read this bio, and then tell me John Lewis has character issues:
http://www.achievement.org/autodoc/page/lew0bio-1
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RedRiverJ1 year, 9 months ago
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http://obama.senate.gov/press/071211-obama_hage...
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE....
This is a problem.
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Ratskii1 year, 8 months ago
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Some thoughts: If world poverty decreases, what would be the consequence for U.S. businesses? Would this throw more business our way and employ more of our people at a higher wage? If that is true what will be the blowback on our investment? Will we gain more than we lose.
Respectfully
Ricky
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NVRob1 year, 8 months ago
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I am amazed! This started with a post from Bkumm that stated Hillary had no plan for the economy, Barak does by investing $250B in green energy jobs, using tax breaks from the Bush admin. to oil companies etc. How original! This has been Hillarys plan for the past year, outined in all of her speeches, debates. Are you guys paying attention? How about Obama sponsoring the 845B Global poverty bill in the US Senate? We are going to ensure that every child, in every third world country has a place to live, food, clean water. How can WE do this?, we don't even take care of our own. We need to fix this country before we can help others. Obama may be an inspiring speaker but if he cannot come up with his own plan for our economy, or wants to help the rest of the world before we take care of our citizins he is not the right choice for the president. Listen to what he is saying, not how it makes you feel!
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Bkumm1 year, 8 months ago
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Actually, although their plans are similar, especially in the funding, I can't find anywhere where Senator Clinton has suggested that she will tie the tax breaks for businesses to job creation at a certain level of income. And although their economic plans are similar, Senator Clinton will add even more money on top of it as her health care plan will cost approx $45 billion a year more and is a single payer plan which she couldn't get through Congress if there wasn't a single Republican in either House. Senator Obama's plan isn't a single payer plan and is much more flexible.
If you look at the two candidates side by side, her plans are much more "big government" than his are. True, they both desire more government intervention than we have now, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing.
Listen to how she says things and think about whether or not she can unite the country. I respect her, but I don't think she can do it. He can.
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Bkumm1 year, 8 months ago
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Further, I have read S2433 and see nothing in there about ANY dollar amount. It is a bill that delegates the President to come up with a strategy to meet the obligations of the US to the UN 2015 goal of reducing world-wide poverty which the US agreed to in 2000.
Read the bill and tell me if you see something different. Here, I've already done the research for you.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:S.2433:
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RedstateLib1 year, 8 months ago
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The funding amount is in UN 2015. Obama is trying to pass a bill that requires the U.S. to provide .7% of GDP to the U.N. based on a treaty negotiated by Bush and never ratified by 2/3 vote of the Senate. It is an end run around the Constitution. That is the same stuff Bush has been pulling for years.
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Bkumm1 year, 8 months ago
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Well, since there is no such thing as UN 2015 (its a goal year not a resolution) and there isn't anything in S2433 that has any numbers using any numbers and spin to suggest that Senator Obama is asking for $845 billion dollars over ten years is simply ridiculous.
What he's asking for, in the bill, is that the President come up with a strategy for addressing our commitment to the UN 2015 goal of reducing poverty by 50%. That's it.
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NVRob1 year, 8 months ago
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Bk, I will tell you in detail what plan Hillary has for economic growth. It is the same plan you outlined as Baraks', verbatim. She has outlined this plan for the past year in all of her speeches and in the debates. Doesn't anyone pay attention? Funny how Obama is using it now and getting credit for it and media coverage to boot.
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RedstateLib1 year, 8 months ago
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Obama backtracks on campaign finance promise:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/15/obama-...
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Ratskii1 year, 8 months ago
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Too get back to the story, I think as BHO increases his lead in elected delegates, more super delegates will go to his side. Nothing succeeds like success. In Minnesota, a majority of the super delegates that have committed, have already sided with him.
I'd have preferred Edwards, but for now I'm hoping the BHO is for real.
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KYRed1 year, 8 months ago
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I HOPE the candidate of the audacity of hope soon tells us exactly what he intends to do about things. To me he seems to be just an empty suit, spouting inspirational words. doesn't he have big ears? Are you sure he isn't a distant cousin to the Chimp in Charge?
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Searchbeam1 year, 8 months ago
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KY,
Now that you brought up the subject of relationship, Obama is a distant cousin of ...
Drum roll, please!
Distant Cousin of Shotgun Dickie, aka Dick Cheney!
We all descended from monkeys, but I didn't know Chimps were involved, too!
LOL!
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Kitty171 year, 8 months ago
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OK zgirl.I promised NOT to waste my time on these boards but your last comment... HOW exactly does Obama excite people? I get sick just watching that smirk on his face or that sarcastic laugh: HA! I fooled you! I had enough of that smirk for 8 years.
I simply don't understand WHAT exactly is so fascinating about Barack Hussein Obama? I can make similar speeches: hopes, promises, big ideas-not so sure which ones are those. Empty rhetoric and all you want to hear.
Who IS this guy? He came from nowhere. Oh, he did community organizing, I guess that pretty much qualifies an army of us to run. We grill all the candidates down to their haircut, yet this guy is getting a BIG pass on everything. I mean, we crucified Kerry for sailing and forgot his honorable service yet we accept everything about Obama including his marihuana experience, admiring Malcom X, defending 'certain' business men, considering his childhood in Indonesia as international experience. You have got to be kidding!
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Kitty171 year, 8 months ago
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OK zgirl. I promised NOT to waste my time on these boards but your last comment... HOW exactly does Obama excite people? I get sick just watching that smirk on his face or that sarcastic laugh: HA! I fooled you! I had enough of that smirk for 8 years.
I simply don't understand WHAT exactly is so fascinating about Barack Hussein Obama? I can make similar speeches: hopes, promises, big ideas-not so sure which ones are those. Empty rhetoric and all you want to hear.
Who IS this guy? He came from nowhere.. oh, he did community organizing, I guess that pretty much qualifies an army of us to run. We grill all the candidates down to their haircut, yet this guy is getting a BIG pass on everything. I mean, we crucified Kerry for sailing and forgot his honorable service yet we accept everything about Obama including his marihuana experience, admiring Malcom X, defending 'certain' business men and considering his childhood in Indonesia as international experience. You have got to be kidding!
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nostalgia1 year, 8 months ago
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I do have a question. How do Democrats tolerate the Super Delegate system? Isn't this the type of elitism that Republicans are always accused of?
Super Delegates are members of the party elite and can negate the vote of the populace
Isn't this exactly what so many were complaining about in the Bush/Gore election?
This may account for one reason many Super Delegates will back Obama:
Superdelegates get campaign cash
Obama's political action committee has doled out more than $694,000 to superdelegates since 2005, the study found, and of the 81 who had announced their support for Obama, 34 had received donations totaling $228,000.
Clinton's political action committee has distributed about $195,000 to superdelegates, and only 13 of the 109 who had announced for her have received money, totaling about $95,000.
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalin...
Nothing like buying votes!
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ZiegfeldGirl1 year, 9 months ago
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He won't be able to go in and categorically end the war. He will meet with advisers, CIA people, he will be fully briefed from top to toe. He may change his plan for Iraq once he sees the full picture. I am confident enough in his intelligence to expect him to make good decisions when he gets into office.
On the other hand, I have zero confidence in McCain. I don't even believe he will handle the war like he claims he will. He has betrayed the Republican party on numerous occasions, what would prevent this from being anther one? I don't like him, I don't trust him, and I won't vote for him.
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Kitty171 year, 8 months ago
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Well, Obama lovers... here is some more info for you to read about the future First Family... http://genealogy.about.com/od/aframertrees/p/ba...
http://www.indianexpress.com/story/260206.html
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/fam...
I ONLY see ONE good outcome of him being a president which is that all that Affirmative Action non-sense will be over with for good! I mean, you can NOT tell me that a black person holds the highest office in this country but the blacks are denied opportunitiesâ;¦ Aside from that, I better use my time to find work in Europe so I can enjoy my life...
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 9 months ago
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The only stocks performing, and they are performing well, are war related or oil related. No wonder those who are opposed to any change are happy with a "hundred year war". Obama is correct in his claim. A small band of Saudi nationals led by a Saudi national flew planes into buildings, obviously we must invade Iraq. (Apply critical thinking skills to that one!)
LOL.
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Endoscopy1 year, 8 months ago
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How do you propose to stop the real war. The one with the terrorists. That is who we are fighting in Iraq. If we leave there they will come here like they keep trying to. Now that FISA is shot down we will have a much harder time tracking them.
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Ratskii1 year, 8 months ago
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Firstly, FISA isn't down, it has reverted to its form that requires judicial OK at least three days after the fact. I sometimes think some of you conservatives want to go back to the days of monarchy.
secondly, dealing with the terrorists is different than declaring war on Islam. Can't you at least figure that out? International cooperation and police work are much more important than sending out troops into harms way just cause it feels good. Patreus has made an interesting first investment in bribing disaffected Sunni leaders to side with the U.S. interests, but he has also said (truly) that the temporary advances this will make will be nothing if we don't make political progress.
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cushi1 year, 8 months ago
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The war on terror doesn't exist! It is simply a catchy phrase to attract people who are still fearful and shell shocked from 911. The phrase is innocuous and far too vague to have any substance. It's like a pacifier to a baby, sooothing, reassuring, comforting, but there's really nothing to it.
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