Conservatives rally as McCain denies extra-marital affair »
Posted By not2needy 1 year, 8 months ago in NewsRepublican heir apparent John McCain denied on Thursday having an affair with a female lobbyist as his White House campaign and conservatives excoriated a critical article by the New York Times.
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not2needy1 year, 8 months ago
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With his wife Cindy standing by him, the Arizona senator rebutted the suggestion of a romantic liaison with the 40-year-old lobbyist, Vicki Iseman, when he ran for president eight years ago.
"Obviously I'm very disappointed in the article. It's not true," McCain, 71, said at a hastily arranged press conference in Ohio, while pledging to press ahead and win the last few delegates he needs for the Republican nomination.
No one but McCain and Iseman know what happened between them. I read some old articles from when he was running in 2000 and found that McCains campaign managers had to bar her from private meetings, because she accompanined him everywhere. They were advising him to curtail his relationship with her.
If it's not true, he should be left alone. If it is true, it will eventually come out.
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questionseverything1 year, 8 months ago
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i think its not as important if mccain had an affair as looking into what leg favors the telecomms that the lobbyists worked for got and how much money mccains campaign got from same companies
i do agree its snakey of him to have been running around on his first wife and im surprised ur post lower in page is first i had heard of it
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SonOfTheMask1 year, 8 months ago
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FTA: "In conservative world, if the New York Times does a 'hit job' on you, then you wear that as a conservative badge of honor," he wrote in his blog."
I think that is quite true. The NYT might just have brought Mr. McCain some additional votes. ;)
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IcCaRus1 year, 8 months ago
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Neophile1 year, 8 months ago
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What Right-Wingers See When They Read the New York Times:
http://rightwingnytimes.cf.huffingtonpost.com/
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mesodude1 year, 8 months ago
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"I think that is quite true. The NYT might just have brought Mr. McCain some additional votes. ;)"
--LOL... This is actually delicious. Wingers conflicted over whether to thank the NYT or trash them. How many of those on the right would just love to see McLib's campaign torpedoed and couldn't care less whether the allegations are true or not.
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Lurch1 year, 8 months ago
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SOTM,
>I think that is quite true. The NYT might just have brought Mr. McCain some additional votes. ;)
Which is hypocritically ironic since Drudge and Fox reported it before the NYT, and only the NYT bowed to McCain pressure to delay the story til after he was guaranteed the nomination. To which they dutifully complied.
But of course when the `con` media did it, he was the red-headed step child of the Republican Party. Now he is the front-runner so anything to make a weaselly adulterer look like a poor victim.
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not2needy1 year, 8 months ago
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I found this interesting, and i will post the link before asked to, anyway, here is an exerpt from a related article regarding McCains infidility with his first wife.
After all, it's well known that he repeatedly cheated on his first wife Carol, of a number of years, with a variety of women, before eventually dumping her for a much-younger heiress whose family fortune was able to help finance his political career. That's well known, I should say, except to the electorate,
http://matthewyglesias.theatlantic.com/archives...
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IcCaRus1 year, 8 months ago
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course they are, thats par for the course for them. they have people getting arrested in airport bathrooms and harassing pages, yet they still try to claim moral high ground every time they parrot rush or mAnn. how delusional is that?
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amazed1 year, 8 months ago
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Read through that blog again -- most of us were saying, that it wan't true and was a nasty trick.
It is amazing to me that those who claim that, when it's a Republicsn involved, that the accusation is enough -- if there's smoke there must be some fire -- are largely the same ones who discounted the Obama story out of hand and thought that it shouldn't even be aired.
You know, guys, you'd have a bit more credibility if you demonstrated a bit more consistency.
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MonkeyBiz1 year, 8 months ago
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That's quite a story. The truth may eventually come out, but right now claiming "hit job" by the rabid right, or "adulterer" and "hypocrite" by the left may be a little premature.
I found it interesting that the Washington Post corroborates at least some of the story.
I was also struck by Cindy McCain's apparent priorities when she said, "More importantly, my children and I not only trust my husband, but know that he would never do anything to not only disappoint our family, but more importantly, disappoint the people of America." She is saying that not disappointing the people of the America is more important than not disappointing her family? YIKES!!! No wonder the party of "family values" has been giving McCain a bad time.
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not2needy1 year, 8 months ago
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She knew he was a snake when she let him in her house, after all he was married to Carol when he started messing with Cindy.
Of course Cindy supports him to the media, she has probably known about it for years, if it's true! But number one on her list of priorities is being first lady.
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amazed1 year, 8 months ago
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yeah, I just saw that clip and was appalled. I'm hoping she was just nervous and mispoke (but I have to say she kind of looks like a Stepford wife anyway)
Yeah, off topic, but really you may or may not like the candidates, but ALL the prospective first spouses seem pretty awful.
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gamahuche1 year, 8 months ago
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Either its true or its dirty tricks..
If its dirty tricks who's directing it?
McCain doesn't exactly look formidable anyway right now if its not overkill maybe its designed to get him sympathy?
Jeez.. why does US politics have to descend into this "spy vs. spy" stuff?
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not2needy1 year, 8 months ago
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Personally gama, at this point of his life i don't think he's got it in him, but this was several years ago, when he was running for pres in 2000. Who knows!
If he's lying, it will come out, he should know that. Maybe he is in hopes that by then he will be pres, and that Bush1,2 and Cheney will protect him for being so submissive and obedient.
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splitrch1 year, 8 months ago
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There's an old saying - "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with b_ulls_hit". If we actually knew the truth about things there would be hell to pay. This way, focusing our attention on nonsense is better for business and politics. Divide and conquer works wonders for the bottom line.
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IcCaRus1 year, 8 months ago
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there was a discussion about this today on NPR. and there were 3 main points made. first, some conservative pundit tried to imply that hillary was behind it. NO DICE, this is actually good for McCain in that conservatives who were hesitant to vote for him will now rally round him. secondly, that IF its true, hes done. (notice i said IF). thirdly, they questioned the timing of the story. heres my take on the timing. IF this story was gonna come out, this is the BEST time for it. think about it, if it comes out a month or two ago, and gained any traction, McCain is NOT the presumptive nominee right now. no tellin if it would be mitt or rudy, huckabee, or even thompson, but the race would have been far different than the one we had. now, its too late to hurt him in the primaries, and, if it is true, by coming out now it gives him time to prepaRE to rebut it in the generaL. if it came out in oct (october surprise) hed be toast.
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not2needy1 year, 8 months ago
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MMMMMMM, sounds rather Rovian!
Isn't it strange how the cons think their sexual escapades are an advantage, something that gives them an edge. However, God forbid that Liberals have sex..and if we do they will make our lives miserable.
Newt and Clinton comes to mind.
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engineer1 year, 8 months ago
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Of course they're going to rally. If it was a Democrat, they would drag him through the mud, throw him in jail, ostracize him and impeach him from whatever office he was in.
W H A T____H Y P O C R I T E S!!!!!!!!!
Couldn't emphasize it enough
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NoWayMan1 year, 8 months ago
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Its not the extra-marital affair that's important, although McCain's denials of any affair will hurt him should it turn out to be true, which would make him a liar.
the important part is who the supposed affair was with: a lobbyist. and even if there was no affair happening, it sure sounds like Vicki Iseman had an unusual amount of access to McCain, "turning up with him at fund-raisers, visiting his offices and accompanying him on a client's corporate jet." according to the NY Times article.
friends, lovers, co-conspirators, whatever they were, its the amount of influence she had that needs to be investigated.
and if it's wholly untrue, why doesn't McCain sue for libel (or is it slander?).
in the long run, if any part of this pans out, it will definitely hurt McCain.
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flyonthewallzz1 year, 8 months ago
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Although I do not agree with McCain and can not vote for him based on his words about an indefinite military presence in the Middle East. I do not see it as being the same as our bases in Germany and Japan ect.
I can not help but respect the way he came around after getting nailed in the Keating stuff. He did say that it caused him more pain than being a POW.
I think he values his integrity now.
He has the benefit of my doubt.
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walden31 year, 8 months ago
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I don't know, the taxpayers of the US got socked with billions in losses. Now one of the senators who tried to block the investigation, McCain, is running for president. I hope he learned from it. Had it been a democrat though he would not be able to run for president due to the vast right wing conspiracy.
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nikkibabe1 year, 8 months ago
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Well McCain, did you forget the Keating 5 or what? Do you remember bankrupting Lincoln Savings & Loan in 80's along with your banker friend?
Innocent depositors were wiped out of their life savings while you vacationed with your banker friend in his corporate jet.
Now you want to wear Bush face mask and save the whole country?
I hope Barack Obama will pay you back for what you and your banker friend did to the poor depositors of Lincoln Savings & Loan.
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Lurch1 year, 8 months ago
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Actually not planned imo. But the wing-nut talking point producers know spin like nobody`s business.
Now that their hated adversary McCain has actually assured himself the nomination through promises of 100 years of military-entertainment complex welfare among other things, it is time for the Republican party to quit inside bickering and screw the nation some more.
So, they take this opportunity to attack one of their favorite messengers, the NYT, while claiming McCain the war hero is somehow a poor helpless victim. (If this makes him a victim, he is way too wimpy to be president)
By claiming he is a victim, they bring all the lemmings in line and deceptively allow all the loudmouths like Rush to do a 180 degree flip-flop without the lemmings noticing a thing. Pretty clever actually.
They are not planners, just opportunists.
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not2needy1 year, 8 months ago
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It may be jordan, so was the youtube of Obama, but the cons certainly capitalized on that, and will probably continue to do so through Nov. if Obmam is nominated.
We don't know for sure that it's a rumor, and while i agree that rumor mongering is despicable, what about the fear mongering we have been under for nearly 8 years? At the very least, McCain was in some kind of cahoots with a lobbyist, and the public needs to know that. Keating certainly makes his morals questionable, but of course we are supposed to forget all about that.
Like i stated earlier, their mud slinging has gone to a whole new level, we have been put in a position of fighting fire with fire. They have taken the fact that we try to take the high road as a weakness, and are doing every twisted thing they can with it to hurt our chances in Nov.
I'm not saying it's right by any means, but what do you suggest?
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ameliog1 year, 8 months ago
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He may be guilty of fooling around. On the other hand, this has a Rovian feel to it. Millions of voters have to be rallied to pull the lever for him in November rather than sit home in disgust. One story alone won't do it, though. It'd take more incidents.
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DrBenway1 year, 8 months ago
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Okay, enough of talking about if John McCain fooled around. Isn't the image of John McCain doing the horizontal bop a form of mental terrorism? I mean, good God...
The guy is what, 120 years old? If he can see a woman and still raise "old glory", then I say God bless him... but outside of that, who cares?
Then again, have you seen his wife? She looks like she was a Los Vegas showgirl back in 1962. Christ, I went inside a younger woman when I last visited the Statue of Liberty!
See... this is what happens when you mention John McCain slippin' the prune!
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nikkibabe1 year, 8 months ago
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If you missed it, his "second" wife said that McCain was cheating on his "first" wife when they had exmarital affair before he dumped the "first".
Also, after all denials and upholding his "dignity & honor", she pulled out a prescription bottle full of Viagra to prove he is no longer a sex kitten.
She said "I keep his stimulus package in my handbag". See without me he will screaming 'IT HAS FALLEN AND CAN'T GET UP".
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Debproud1 year, 8 months ago
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I have no doubt that this is a typical ploy by the right wing to rally the sheep :), sorry, troops. It is a story that can't hurt him due to the fact that it is eight years old and can't be collaborated on any level. It has just enough indignation to anger the fence dwellers that the man is in trouble and needs the help of the whole party to defend him angainst the LIBERAL media. He immediately starts begging for money from the Republican base that would not contribute to him before. Follow who benefits, and the charges being sought by the FCC , and somewhere in between you will find the truth.
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obiefrommuskogee1 year, 8 months ago
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Good point, as money is an issue with McCain right now as he opted for the public funding option, but now wants to "take it back." Hardly a man of integrity. He's actually going to go to court to try and get out of his agreement, when he was involved in the bill that created the rules in the first place. Hypocritus.
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hyperbola1 year, 8 months ago
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Well, this story is another indication that mainstream corporate media like AP have become useless to american democracy. Indeed, by focussing on the "woman", AP has buried the real scandal: corruption for corporate profit. Probably because AP, like much of our corporate media, are in bed with the defense industries that profit from our imperial wars - after all, why else would the chairman of Lockheed be on their BOD?
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TonyByron1 year, 8 months ago
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I think the Times was surprised to discover that when you shovel bull sh!t you always get some on yourself.
With all of their massive resources employed for eight years they only came up with the slightest of innuendos from anonymous sources.
On the other hand, maybe the Times knows that Republicans are best suited to run this country and so secretly they are trying to get McCain elected even if it hurts their image in the short term. They did endorse him (he has some liberal leanings) and they did wait until he was the presumptive nominee. Almost Rovian in it's cleverness.
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