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Republican heir apparent John McCain denied on Thursday having an affair with a female lobbyist as his White House campaign and conservatives excoriated a critical article by the New York Times.

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not2needy
Feb. 21, 2008, 5:36 p.m.
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With his wife Cindy standing by him, the Arizona senator rebutted the suggestion of a romantic liaison with the 40-year-old lobbyist, Vicki Iseman, when he ran for president eight years ago.
"Obviously I'm very disappointed in the article. It's not true," McCain, 71, said at a hastily arranged press conference in Ohio, while pledging to press ahead and win the last few delegates he needs for the Republican nomination.
No one but McCain and Iseman know what happened between them. I read some old articles from when he was running in 2000 and found that McCains campaign managers had to bar her from private meetings, because she accompanined him everywhere. They were advising him to curtail his relationship with her.
If it's not true, he should be left alone. If it is true, it will eventually come out.
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SonOfTheMask
Feb. 21, 2008, 5:53 p.m.
FTA: "In conservative world, if the New York Times does a 'hit job' on you, then you wear that as a conservative badge of honor," he wrote in his blog."
I think that is quite true. The NYT might just have brought Mr. McCain some additional votes. ;)
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not2needy
Feb. 21, 2008, 6:10 p.m.
I found this interesting, and i will post the link before asked to, anyway, here is an exerpt from a related article regarding McCains infidility with his first wife.
After all, it's well known that he repeatedly cheated on his first wife Carol, of a number of years, with a variety of women, before eventually dumping her for a much-younger heiress whose family fortune was able to help finance his political career. That's well known, I should say, except to the electorate,
http://matthewyglesias.theatlantic.com/archives...
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dunkirk
Feb. 21, 2008, 6:12 p.m.
ROFLMAO, seems the righties are now discounting this while claiming the Obama story should be played out in its fullest and investigated ad nasuem.
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MonkeyBiz
Feb. 21, 2008, 6:18 p.m.
That's quite a story. The truth may eventually come out, but right now claiming "hit job" by the rabid right, or "adulterer" and "hypocrite" by the left may be a little premature.
I found it interesting that the Washington Post corroborates at least some of the story.
I was also struck by Cindy McCain's apparent priorities when she said, "More importantly, my children and I not only trust my husband, but know that he would never do anything to not only disappoint our family, but more importantly, disappoint the people of America." She is saying that not disappointing the people of the America is more important than not disappointing her family? YIKES!!! No wonder the party of "family values" has been giving McCain a bad time.
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gamahuche
Feb. 21, 2008, 6:26 p.m.
Either its true or its dirty tricks..
If its dirty tricks who's directing it?
McCain doesn't exactly look formidable anyway right now if its not overkill maybe its designed to get him sympathy?
Jeez.. why does US politics have to descend into this "spy vs. spy" stuff?
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IcCaRus
Feb. 21, 2008, 6:34 p.m.
there was a discussion about this today on NPR. and there were 3 main points made. first, some conservative pundit tried to imply that hillary was behind it. NO DICE, this is actually good for McCain in that conservatives who were hesitant to vote for him will now rally round him. secondly, that IF its true, hes done. (notice i said IF). thirdly, they questioned the timing of the story. heres my take on the timing. IF this story was gonna come out, this is the BEST time for it. think about it, if it comes out a month or two ago, and gained any traction, McCain is NOT the presumptive nominee right now. no tellin if it would be mitt or rudy, huckabee, or even thompson, but the race would have been far different than the one we had. now, its too late to hurt him in the primaries, and, if it is true, by coming out now it gives him time to prepaRE to rebut it in the generaL. if it came out in oct (october surprise) hed be toast.
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engineer
Feb. 21, 2008, 6:45 p.m.
Of course they're going to rally. If it was a Democrat, they would drag him through the mud, throw him in jail, ostracize him and impeach him from whatever office he was in.
W H A T____H Y P O C R I T E S!!!!!!!!!
Couldn't emphasize it enough
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NoWayMan
Feb. 21, 2008, 7:12 p.m.
Its not the extra-marital affair that's important, although McCain's denials of any affair will hurt him should it turn out to be true, which would make him a liar.
the important part is who the supposed affair was with: a lobbyist. and even if there was no affair happening, it sure sounds like Vicki Iseman had an unusual amount of access to McCain, "turning up with him at fund-raisers, visiting his offices and accompanying him on a client's corporate jet." according to the NY Times article.
friends, lovers, co-conspirators, whatever they were, its the amount of influence she had that needs to be investigated.
and if it's wholly untrue, why doesn't McCain sue for libel (or is it slander?).
in the long run, if any part of this pans out, it will definitely hurt McCain.
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flyonthewallzz
Feb. 21, 2008, 7:47 p.m.
Although I do not agree with McCain and can not vote for him based on his words about an indefinite military presence in the Middle East. I do not see it as being the same as our bases in Germany and Japan ect.
I can not help but respect the way he came around after getting nailed in the Keating stuff. He did say that it caused him more pain than being a POW.
I think he values his integrity now.
He has the benefit of my doubt.
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walden3
Feb. 21, 2008, 9:53 p.m.
Is this another, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" moment? I for one hope so.
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nikkibabe
Feb. 21, 2008, 10:39 p.m.
Well McCain, did you forget the Keating 5 or what? Do you remember bankrupting Lincoln Savings & Loan in 80's along with your banker friend?
Innocent depositors were wiped out of their life savings while you vacationed with your banker friend in his corporate jet.
Now you want to wear Bush face mask and save the whole country?
I hope Barack Obama will pay you back for what you and your banker friend did to the poor depositors of Lincoln Savings & Loan.
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alexgarciainseattle
Feb. 21, 2008, 11:14 p.m.
I wonder if it might have even been planned as a way of bringing together republicans
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jordan11
Feb. 21, 2008, 11:14 p.m.
I'm not a conservative,and I think the article was tacky. Shame on them. Rumor mongering is despicable.
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KYRed
Feb. 22, 2008, 1:20 a.m.
At least McCain didn't wag his finger and say, I never had sexual relations with that woman........Vicki Iseman. Don't see the big deal with this. They all most all do it and they all lie about it. Non issue.
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ameliog
Feb. 22, 2008, 1:51 a.m.
He may be guilty of fooling around. On the other hand, this has a Rovian feel to it. Millions of voters have to be rallied to pull the lever for him in November rather than sit home in disgust. One story alone won't do it, though. It'd take more incidents.
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DrBenway
Feb. 22, 2008, 1:58 a.m.
Okay, enough of talking about if John McCain fooled around. Isn't the image of John McCain doing the horizontal bop a form of mental terrorism? I mean, good God...
The guy is what, 120 years old? If he can see a woman and still raise "old glory", then I say God bless him... but outside of that, who cares?
Then again, have you seen his wife? She looks like she was a Los Vegas showgirl back in 1962. Christ, I went inside a younger woman when I last visited the Statue of Liberty!
See... this is what happens when you mention John McCain slippin' the prune!
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nikkibabe
Feb. 22, 2008, 7:33 a.m.
If you missed it, his "second" wife said that McCain was cheating on his "first" wife when they had exmarital affair before he dumped the "first".
Also, after all denials and upholding his "dignity & honor", she pulled out a prescription bottle full of Viagra to prove he is no longer a sex kitten.
She said "I keep his stimulus package in my handbag". See without me he will screaming 'IT HAS FALLEN AND CAN'T GET UP".
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Debproud
Feb. 22, 2008, 10:11 a.m.
I have no doubt that this is a typical ploy by the right wing to rally the sheep :), sorry, troops. It is a story that can't hurt him due to the fact that it is eight years old and can't be collaborated on any level. It has just enough indignation to anger the fence dwellers that the man is in trouble and needs the help of the whole party to defend him angainst the LIBERAL media. He immediately starts begging for money from the Republican base that would not contribute to him before. Follow who benefits, and the charges being sought by the FCC , and somewhere in between you will find the truth.
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jzinkjazz
Feb. 22, 2008, 10:15 a.m.
1) consider the source---THE NEW YORK TIMES????????
2) the libs crying about a affair--REMEMBER BILLY BOY or do you believe what he did just a slip
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hyperbola
Feb. 22, 2008, 11:27 a.m.
Well, this story is another indication that mainstream corporate media like AP have become useless to american democracy. Indeed, by focussing on the "woman", AP has buried the real scandal: corruption for corporate profit. Probably because AP, like much of our corporate media, are in bed with the defense industries that profit from our imperial wars - after all, why else would the chairman of Lockheed be on their BOD?
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TonyByron
Feb. 22, 2008, 12:24 p.m.
I think the Times was surprised to discover that when you shovel bull sh!t you always get some on yourself.
With all of their massive resources employed for eight years they only came up with the slightest of innuendos from anonymous sources.
On the other hand, maybe the Times knows that Republicans are best suited to run this country and so secretly they are trying to get McCain elected even if it hurts their image in the short term. They did endorse him (he has some liberal leanings) and they did wait until he was the presumptive nominee. Almost Rovian in it's cleverness.