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Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama clashed over NAFTA, health care and the war in Iraq Tuesday night in a crackling debate at close quarters one week before a pivotal group of primaries. Charges of negative campaign tactics were high on the program, too.

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not2needy
Feb. 26, 2008, 10:44 p.m.
FTA:
"Senator Obama has consistently said I would force people to have health care whether they can afford it or not," said Clinton, insisting it was not true.
Responding quickly, Obama countered that former first lady had consistently claimed his plan "would leave 15 million people out ... I dispute that. I think it is inaccurate," he said.
The tone was polite yet pointed, increasingly so as the 90-minute session wore on, a reflection of the stakes in a race in which Obama has won 11 straight primaries and caucuses and Clinton is in desperate need of a comeback.
Personally, i think Obama won that debate..
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not2needy
Feb. 27, 2008, 12:02 a.m.
IMO, Hillary came out with a chip on her shoulder, and before she could even answer the first question, she lost her cool. She harped on strong leadership, but couldn't keep her cool long enough to answer the first question without becoming combative.
You're right AG, she needs to cough up those records and returns! I think she was hoping that issue would die.
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AntiNeoCon
Feb. 27, 2008, 1:23 a.m.
I liked the debate, but honestly I fell asleep thru part of it. They both did a good job. I was pleased that they could clarify some items of interest, and I thought Hillary did real well. Like she said, its a bit hard to do your records and stuff when you are on the campaign trail day and night, not going to sweat it, she will come through.
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cowboygrandpa
Feb. 27, 2008, 4:47 a.m.
I haven't been able to see the debates as I work at night.
Just from reading and listening to these things. I'm wondering why these two aren't focussing on the economy and the cost of the war?
We could afford health care if we got out of Iraq. We could invest some othe money being wasted there o rebuilding our infrastructure and putting people back to work.
I guess I just don't get these windbags.
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TimALoftis
Feb. 27, 2008, 7:24 a.m.
What I have found watching these debates and I hate to admit it but I've watched 19 out of the 20 democratic debates, Senator Obama has come along way. He was awful in the earlier ones but they did not get much attention because of the number of people on stage. He now looks compose and quite confident with his answers. Senator Clinton needed to score points last night...she did not. While most pundits gave her the slight edge in last weeks debate, most of those same pundits gave it to Obama last night. No real game changer. Do the polls continue to go in obama's favor? We will know more by this weekend.
My prediction is that March 4th will be a draw. Hillary wins in RI and by 5 or 6 points in Ohio. Obama wins in Vermont and by 5 points or so in Texas.
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Spadecaller
Feb. 27, 2008, 7:44 a.m.
While I prefer Obama and believe he offers more to change the lousy course our nation has taken, I am not too impressed with either of their health care plans.
We need a single-payer health care plan that removes the profit motive from the insurance companies. Profit and loss should not be related to the care of the sick.
Should our fire departments evaluate which communities should get priority when an alarm is triggered?
My hope is that Barack will do more to tackle the problems with special interests, which include the insurance companies and the military contractors. With that in mind, there may be some hope in the future for a national mandate by the people, which calls for a single-payer non profit health care plan.
The high cost of health care in our country is the result of greedy insurance and pharmaceutical companies.
(These are facts that are easily accessed by comparing the figures generated by Medicare claims and those from private insurers.)
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Goppy
Feb. 27, 2008, 8 a.m.
I watched most of the debate, and I ken tell you Democrats got a couple of really good candidates there.
I definitely think Hillary is on the mony when she says she wont need no 'on the job training'. I think shes smart, tough, and so much more better qualified than our Goerge W. Bush ever was. And yall remember how elecktin an unqualified, ideologically focused person can damage a nation.
On the other hand, I really get the sense that Obama will break through a lot of DC BS. I actually liek the fact that he will meet with leaders of nations we aint been talkin to - liek Cuba.
Its crazy that we talk to the Commies in China on the other side of the world, and refuse to talk to the Commies 90 miles from our borders. I get the sense that Obama is ready to abandon craazie ideology and embrace pragmatism.
Of course, as a Christian Conservative, I find this worryin. But if I think of myself as an American, I find it refreshing and encouragin.
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AnteUp
Feb. 27, 2008, 9:49 a.m.
A subject that is too hot for either one of them to handle on the tube is reported on in the March 3rd issue of Newsweek magazine. It can be found online at:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/114723
Seems Clinton operatives are playing a real dirty game:
FTA: Daphna Ziman, a longtime friend of Hillary Clinton's who has co-chaired several events for her, forwarded an e-mail from the Republican Jewish Coalition, a grass-roots GOP group, criticizing Obama for proposing a Muslim summit. In a Jan. 31 interview with Paris Match, Obama said he wanted "an honest discussion about ways to bridge the gap that grows between Muslims and the West." Ziman, in her Feb. 2 e-mail, responded, "I am horrified at Mr. Obama's point of view."
"an honest discussion about ways to bridge the gap that grows between Muslims and the West."
Trying to find a bridge between the West and 1.6 billion
earthlings is "horrifying"??........Not to me.
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tchef
Feb. 27, 2008, 9:55 a.m.
It looks like Hillary is starting to crack under pressure. We need a leader who can keep their cool. I also like the fact that Obama wants to talk to nations that we don't get along with. This idea of alienating and demonizing (anyone got a spelling on this?) our enemies definitely isn't accomplishing any of our goals.
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HannibalBarca
Feb. 27, 2008, 10:58 a.m.
sorry guys but there was a Calgary/Avalanche game on
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joey-evans
Feb. 27, 2008, 3:02 p.m.
I don't understand how some of us make Hillary's experience a negative and something that she should be hampered by and conversely, Obama's lack of experience as a positive due to some sort of "too young/inexperienced to be corrupted. Huh?
First thing is you must make the assumption that Hillary is more of the same dirty politics, which is quite an assumption to make...while assuming that Obama's is squeeky clean. I know you can find anything on anyone if you dig into their respective backgrounds deep enough.
Some take issue of the bush-Clinton-bush presidencies saying enough of these political dynasties! Our lives(in my opinion) were much better during the Clinton presidency when compared to the bush quagmires. So how or why should that be viewed negatively?
I thought Hillary held her own quite well in the debate and I still do not see why this Obama mania is warranted and he is viewed as some sort of godsend of the people.
JOEY EVANS
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redhead01
Feb. 27, 2008, 5:43 p.m.
I just wanna say that Hillary & Obama are both acting so childish that i can barely stand too watch them ! They`re actullay making they`re debates nerveracking All i guess i really want too say is grow up both of you pleaseeeeeeeeee !
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jmopinion
Feb. 27, 2008, 6:12 p.m.
I am no fan of Hillary but I hope she beats Obama. At least The economy was doing well when Bill Clinton was in office. No time for on the job training in this economy.
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rdrider
Feb. 27, 2008, 6:49 p.m.
Ok my husband and I have watched every debate on both parties, every interview, etc. we are what you would call political junkies. Hasn't anyone else noticed that Obama never really SAYS anything??! He piggy backs on the responses of others and sometimes even interrupts them to do so. He has not "said" a word. He is running around like a motivational speaker/rockstar soaking up all this support from people who don't do their home work like I do. It's really frustrating to watch peoople swoon over a guy like this. He's got less then THREE YEARS EXPERIENCE IN THE POLICTICAL LANDSCAPE!
I am from Michigan where we are experiencing ( and have been for some years now) a single state recession. I will not vote for hillary because she wants to bring granholm on board! I follow politics very closely and I will NOT vote for her on the basis she may get to the white house and bring in Grannyholm.
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rdrider
Feb. 27, 2008, 6:52 p.m.
anyone from Michigan can tell you that Jennifer Granholm is a stubborn clod that doesn't have a clue! she shut down the government because she was too stubborn to compromise w/her people.
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rdrider
Feb. 27, 2008, 6:58 p.m.
Of course obama kept his cool! he's won 11 contests in a row! his handlers probably told him to relax and let her hang herself getting worked up (which she did)
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NVRob
Feb. 27, 2008, 7:33 p.m.
Why is everyone saying Obama has such a huge lead in delegates that Hillary needs to win big in Texas and Ohio. I've read it here, the media keeps talking about it, but I am not seeing it. After Super Tuesday Hillary was ahead by 90 to 120 delegates depending on who was reporting the totals. The media portrayed this as deadlocked, virtually tied, no clear leader. Now Obama is ahead by 90 delegates and the media claims he is the frontrunner, way ahead. Hillary does need to win, to chip away at Obamas' 90 delegate lead. This delegate lead is about 2% of the total number of delegates. Is this a huge lead? Is it over for Hillary? Should she drop out? NO, this is a very close race. I would say it is virtually tied.
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slate
Feb. 27, 2008, 9 p.m.
I'm too biased to say who won the debate.
I'm still puzzled as to how the Clinton Machine has been annilated by a realtively unknown.
Just when you'd think the country had a chance to prove they aren't sexist they still went with a man in the leadership role and afyrt all Hillary has done for her party too. It's baffling to me.
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KYRed
Feb. 27, 2008, 10:21 p.m.
Obama won as far as I am concerned. The icing on the cake came early, when Clinton cackled after seeing the bit of video of her making fun of Obama and said something about needing some humor. Well, as we all know, or should know, Clinton said weeks earlier that the real fun was coming. I guess this is what she meant by fun, making fun of Obama. To me, however, it doesn't matter which one wins the nomination. Neither will get my vote. Nor McCain. Maybe I will vote for Mickey Mouse.