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Posted By TechnologyExpert 1 year, 8 months ago in NewsSen. Hillary Rodham Clinton threw up a roadblock on Sen. Barack Obama's path to the Democratic presidential nomination by winning the giant Ohio and Texas primaries, NBC News projected Wednesday morning.
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Goppy1 year, 8 months ago
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As Ive said before, I believe all us Christian Conservatives should vote fer HIllary.
My fellow Conservatives! Consider what a hIllary presdiency will do for our Right Wing Media Operatives!!
Rush Limbaugh became a mega-star durin Billy Boye Clintons 8 years! Right Wing Media came into its own durin them heady days.
I still get a tear in my eye when I think about how good them Clinton days were for Right Wing Media.
Besides! What have we to lose?!
We CAINT vote for McCain. He has worked WITH Democracts to effectuate legislation!! Why, hes even worked with TEDDY KENNEDY!!!
As Christian Conservatives, workin with Teddy Kennedy or ANY Democrat goes against our ideeologie and our religion of partisanship!
So, callin all Conservatives! Stand up for INTOLERANCE!! Stand up for LOUD, OBNOXIOUS, HIGHTLY PARTISAN RIGHT WING MEDIA! VOTE FOR HILLARY!!
After all, if she wins, we ken always obstruct and impeach!
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slate1 year, 8 months ago
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We the People of the Great State/Republic of Texas have spoken!!! Hillary R. Clinton and Barack H. Obama will have to bash each other for 7 more weeks! That's what 1 or two weeks less than all the time since the Iowa Caucuses? That many weeks is an eternity for those two to beat each other up as Mc Cain (his real name) just waits.
I want to say that I hope I didn't offend anyone by mentioning the name of one of the Democrat front runners, it seems every name he has sounds like he's from someplace east of Center Texas, but I did refrain from using the name that seems to offend some of those with less than formidable constitutions.
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mr-breaker1 year, 8 months ago
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Not a suprise, Ohio mabey....everyone knew the rednecks in Texas were not going to vote for Obama. This is why he could have a hard time becoming the president. I think a lot of the Hillbillys in the country will support McCaine even of they dont agree with his policies just to Keep Obama out. Id the trepublicans win again heaven help us because we will Deserve another 8 years of pain and shame.
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earthlingerer1 year, 8 months ago
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Kinda sour grapes, I take it...
I would have been much more surprised if Ohio would have voted for Obama, as the demos there are something like 82.5% white, as opposed to Texas having more than 35% "minorities", meaning hispanics and african-descended people, which was reflected a bit in the gap of voting.
I've got to wonder about this: "I think a lot of the Hillbillys in the country will support McCaine even of they dont agree with his policies just to Keep Obama out."
Is Obama going to accept, or even be offered, the vice-presidency?
Don't worry, the chances of another republican administratio any time soon are better than none, but not more than slim, by any means.
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obiefrommuskogee1 year, 8 months ago
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The rednecks in Texas voted for Hillary. It was a GOP strategy to keep her in the race. I know because I voted in Texas and am a registered dem but was asked if I wanted to vote Repub or Dem.
The news here in Texas reported that 15% of voters that normally vote republican voted for Hillary.
The whole notion of Hillary winning white males is a farce. Those were republican white men voting for her because they fear an obama candidate.
The caucuses in my area were more representative--10 for Obama, 4 for Hillary.
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Mdiar1 year, 8 months ago
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Yeah... because everyone knows the South is still the bigoted, Jim Crow region it always was. We all know the North has become the enlightened mecca of civilized society... Wait, its 2008! You mean the racism isn't really effecting the vote? You mean the south has, by and large, voted for Obama over Clinton? You mean its states like New York and California that Clinton won in landslides?! You don't say! My god, people can not vote for Obama and not be racist. Get over your mentality of "south=racist, north=tolerant" because its not true.
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lum-chate1 year, 8 months ago
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Try to learn how to spell before you represent yourself on these blogs. HILLBILLYS in TEXAS! What's that all about. Here are the facts. Obama is the favorite of the moveon.org
crowd. He's not ready for primetime and his bombastic flourishes are better suited for some kind of left leaning professor at an upscale university
She won tonight by 350,000 votes, she'll win Pennsylvania by 500,000.
The maths in her favor and I'm sick of Jonathan Alter & Oberman & Mathews salavating over Obama & saying otherwise.
MSNBC what a joke.
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slate1 year, 8 months ago
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((rednecks in Texas were not going to vote for Obama))
Mr. Breaker, I can see that you have a bigoted view of we people in Texas. Let's see. Redneck, oh you mean like a country hick that doesn't like uppity black folks?
You see Texas is populated mostly by 4 large cities. Austin, San Antonio, Dallas and Houston the last two are in the top FIVE largest cities in the nation, Full of; you guessed it City Folk, nar a Redneck around. We have running water and everything.
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1-2-Oscar1 year, 8 months ago
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I think that the Scarecrow (the one without a brain) could encapsulate last night's results most clearly.
"Well, Dorothy," he might say, "the Wicked Witch is NOT dead, and you may never get back to Kansas. Even the Magical Caramel Wizard may not be able to save you now. All the strings he pulled last night went for naught, and even if you get back to Kansas, you won't be able to recognize the place when the Witch gets done with it. You might as well resign yourself to living in this fantasy-land. It's sure to be a lot more pleasant than going home will be."
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Blackacereturn1 year, 8 months ago
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I am starting to believe that we are being led by the nostrils again by the media, they are telling us where to go and like lemmings we are following. They want McCain for reasons that are beyond me, I watch the breakdown of who voted for whom, and they are way too many Republicans voting for Hill for my liking. This should worry all DEMS. They must know something we don't like why they can beat her.
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lum-chate1 year, 8 months ago
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Clinton won todays primaries by a momentum changing 350,000 votes. On to Pennsylvania (Ohio II) where she should win by 400,000 or more. By the end of the primary season she'll have more total votes than Obama and the super delegates will then fall in line behind the Clinton campaign. The only states left for Obama are Mississippi & the caucus states where there are more cows than people. Maybe he should bow out now before all this becomes obvious.
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obiefrommuskogee1 year, 8 months ago
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The problem is for Hillary is that she is just like McCain but McCain has better credentials for everything Hillary represents. He actually served.
If Hillary is the nominee, there is no way she can win against McCain. And that is how the GOP wants it.
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Kitty171 year, 8 months ago
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Kitty171 year, 8 months ago
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Totally Agree! If only to aggravate the sheep, HA, HA, HA!
Regardless of what happen next, she WON last night and at least made people see that obama is far from perfect and certainly guilty of all the maneuvers he accuses his opponent of. (there was NO meting with the Canadians until the memo proving otherwise came out and than he said, 'so what?, it is over now'; his large contributor is on trial now, he gave back the funds and said, 'so what? gave the money back, that's the extent of hte sotry' Really?
He did not hold one meeting on Afghanistan since he has been in the Senateâ;¦ 'oh, it is not that important, he says..' Are you kidding?
He was the media darling and got a free pass for all this time, now when the ride got bumpy he blames the media.. 'I thought you guys would not buy into it' HA! he better get used to it... I hope there is not going to be a coronation just yet like the one he surely hoped for.
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Aidenag1 year, 8 months ago
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Hillary still can't win. It's not like the states she won today were winner take all, she barely gained any delegates today.
The numbers just arent on her side for delegates. She could literally win EVERY single state from now until the convention, and still not win(seriusly, go punch in numbers using the delegate counters, give her a 10% win in every state left, She still loses by 50 )
She has to start winning states with 70% or more margins to even make any real dents into obama. It's why Obama has such a commanding lead on her nationally. He took so many of the states he has with giant leads of 70% Plus, which is what gave him so many delegates over her.
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nostalgia1 year, 8 months ago
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Don't overlook the Super Delegates. If she has more popular votes than Obama there will be tremendous pressure on the Super Delegates to move to the Clinton camp
There is going to be even more pressure to seat the delegates from FL and Michigan. It looks like FL may have more of a case to make than Michigan
PA is very similar to Ohio but there will be more time for coverage of the Obama NAFTA fiasco. This is going to hurt him tremendously in the rust belt towns in PA. It will be interesting to see the vote breakdown in Ohio. If union households voted for Clinton even though the major unions endorsed Obama, the NAFTA fiasco hurt him in Ohio and will give you an idea of what will happen in PA
Clinton's red phone ad played well in TX. You may start to see it in other states where her campaign thinks it will be effective
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TimALoftis1 year, 8 months ago
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WoW...pretty impressive wins for Senator Clinton. Going into last night, I was predicting a split. Hillary takes RI and Ohio and Barack would take Vermont and do the same in Texas by a very small margin. I was wrong...Clinton takes 3 out of 4 and she now has stopped Obama's rolling momentum dead in its track. She threw the kitchen sink at him and it worked. She even played the gender card and that even garnered a few votes for here as well.
As for the delegates, that will be close to a split last night as all of the pundits had predicted. CNN is reporting that Obama leads in the Caucus balloting in Texas 52 to 48%.
Now on to Wyoming and Mississippi. Polls prior to last night showed these as pretty easy wins for Obama. Did last night change that in any way? Then this slugfest goes on to Pennsylvania on April 22nd where Clinton will be favored by at least 10 percentage points.
Like it or not Democrats, this thing is going on all the way till June.
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earthlingerer1 year, 8 months ago
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Anyone who still continues to think that Florida and Michigan won't count, and a lot, in the end, are SERIOUSLY DELUDED.
I like Obama, and would vote for him, but I also know that the Clintons pretty much own this game. They've been in it a lot longer than Obama, and have ALL the right connections.
I'm sure even those who have backed Obama will change their tune "for the better of the party and nation", and say the "C" word when push comes to shove
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lum-chate1 year, 8 months ago
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Clinton will be the nominee! Obama wasted his hard working utopian thinking gullible followers like you money
by outspending Clinton 3 to 1 in 3 diastrous losses. He's finished.
Obama yesterday only cemented his title as the Mitt Romney of the democratic party. Lavishly outspending his opponent and losing by landslides.
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staar1 year, 8 months ago
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Never give up, for that is just the place or time that the tide will turn...
Go Hillary..
Aidenag: "Hillary still can't win"..thinking you're going to eat those words...and even if you don't..at least she's a fighter..I want her in my corner, she's showing America Now what a strong leader she will be..I actually did not start out with Hillary as a consideration but after watching and learning I came to the realization that she is indeed the best choice for our Country..
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cushi1 year, 8 months ago
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I am disappointed, but not discouraged by the election results. Barack is still ahead in the delegates and he's been written off many times, only to defy the odds. Hillary is tenacious because she wants what she wants, and I'm not knocking her for that, but I still prefer Obama's message and his calm, peaceful approach over her belligerence. There are many ways to fight, it isn't necessary to constantly maim and kill each other over our differences. If we are going to survive in this new age, it will be by brains, not brawn.
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HMMace1 year, 8 months ago
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I will vote for Hillery over an exmuslim any time..At least Hillery does not belong to a racist church....At least hi;llery does not have a radical muslim father. why does Obama have no voting record in the Illinois house?? Why does Obama have no voting record in the U S senate???
I would say he was being groomed for this for a very long time..and I do not trust muslims, or exmuslims..There is no reason to put any one with any muslim ties in the white house..none--zero - nada..
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Aidenag1 year, 8 months ago
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Obama an ex muslim? Man people never stop with this BS talking point do they... Found it interesting that you have a problem with his 'racist church' as well, being that you made racist comments against muslims in the same comment.. Kind of hypocritical don't ya think?
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IanFraigun1 year, 8 months ago
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So who is the ex muslim? Obama has been a christian all his life. Learn the facts. The school he went to in Indonesia was a Catholic school not a muslim school though people of all religions were students.
You do nothing but accept false statements without checking them out and that statement has been proven false dozens of times. If you cannot see that you are a poor excuse for a thinking voter and would fit the non-thinking catagory that gave us Bush twice.
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lum-chate1 year, 8 months ago
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Good point. Muslim culture was part of O's upbringing, its undeniable. With the momentum shifting the only hope for obama is this:
I heard Puerto Rico, American Samoa, Virgin Islands and other foreign entities are allowed to vote in the Democrat primaries. If Obama makes a push for the Kenyans to have a caucus or two with all the Muslims there he would have a 99% approval rating and close the gap with Clinton.
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sotiris-k1 year, 8 months ago
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You guys have started sounding like you know who...republicans. You are starting to spin and imagining things that make no mathematical sense. But on top of that you also start to enjoy unethical concepts such as counting states that violated the rules after no serious campaigning took place there and after the rules had already disqualified them. One can make the argument of a new vote there but even this would be a violation of the rules of the game. Still i say bring it on if it comes down to it. Not only Clinton needs to win with big margins but needs to do so in all of them . You realize what this means now dont you? That even if she loses a couple of them not even that 60% in the rest wont be enough . Are you planning to assume she will win all that is left ? In fact of the delegates left she has to win 57.5% of them to close the gap. You are in essence expecting that a race that has been so close so far all over the country will suddenly reverse and become a 58-42 one. DREAMS!
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earthlingerer1 year, 8 months ago
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Another deluded soul, denying that Florida and Michigan mean nothing, ignoring the immense political clout of the Clintons.
I'm glad you are so just as to think there are "rules" in politics.
One rule is sure, though. It takes a simple majority to clinch the party nomination. Without that, there will be a brokered convention. All of a sudden HUGE states like Michigan and Florida suddenly become quite relevant.
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sotiris-k1 year, 8 months ago
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http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/29/delegate...
Look at the map above and understand that the results so far have significant correlation with two things;
1) race demographics
2) urban centers with population distribution that derives a huge fraction of voters from older ages.
Those 2 alone can account for significant prediction of the results. Look where Obama is doing well and where Clinton is and you will see; There are plenty of Latinos and older voters in the places she does well. You will also see higher educated people and young voters plus african american urban centers for Obama. It is now a bit easier to follow what is likely to happen. There are at least 5 states he can win simply on such logical arguments . 3 of the remaining states have caucuses and he has won all caucuses so far. Those facts alone would require then from Clinton in order to get the 58% of the remaining delegates to accumulate over 75% at the places she will win . Unrealistic.
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nikkibabe1 year, 8 months ago
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The more chances that she gets towards nomination, it is more and more a predictable John McCain landslide in November.
The male oriented Republican Party machine will sweep her off the floor and dump her in the trash can.
This is one way of the Democratic electorate digging their own grave for next 4 years.
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earthlingerer1 year, 8 months ago
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McCain has been in serious question lately, over laws HE signed. Not to mention his age. Or the fact that so many swing voters who are women would vote Clinton, and so many others just to vote other than republican.
To put it simply, McCain's a very old man, who would keep the occupation of Iraq going for 10,000 years, doesn't know about economics, and can't follow his own rules.
This run is just a really nice way for him to retire.
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Xaos1 year, 8 months ago
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Clinton and McCain both won big last night, sounds like there are still a lot of people that voted for Bush still out there voting. I am not an Obama supporter either, too many unknowns about him for my liking. We must have some of the most uninformed shortsighted voters in the world. I grow weary of elections where we have no choice except bad and worse. I am seriously considering not even voting this year and if I do it will be 3rd party, when voting for the lesser of the evils you still are voting for evil.
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Ratskii1 year, 8 months ago
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I'll give Hillary this: She did what she needed to do to stay in the race. Personally, I was predicting that she'd do 3 to 5 percent worse than she actually performed (win by 5 to 7% in Ohio and lose by a couple of percentage points in Texas). I'll be interested to see how the delegates are actually proportioned between the two candidates.
Edwards may have enough delegates to broker the convention.
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agentX1 year, 8 months ago
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These media guys are counting the chickens before they are hatched.
The caucus votes aren't even finished being counted yet. AND the delegates haven't been properly passed out yet.
The math is probably gonna swing to Obama because the Texas system is so weird.
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djrevelky1 year, 8 months ago
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I would agree, Obama doesn't give a damn about religions. He changes his religion from time to time anyway depending on what makes his life easier.
Muslim in a Muslim family. Atheist in high school and College. And now...that he's running for office, he's a Christian? Nice. Seems like he does what everyone surrounding him tell him to do.
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IanFraigun1 year, 8 months ago
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Where do you get your information from, little green men. He was born to a white christian woman and lived his whole life with her though he had various step fathers of other faiths, but that is not his heritage.
He went to live in Indonesia for a bit, but attended a Catholic school, and he has been a member of his Christian Church for well over 20 years, even before the arrival of the current minister.
Creeps like you are trying to hide the truth in hopes that your dirty tricks will deprive this country of what may be an exemplary president and instead give us more years of shrub types to finally totally destroy our society.
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saneman1 year, 8 months ago
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At this point in time, anybody but John McCain. Even Bill Bennett, a conservative commentator, said that John McCain has no clue as to the economy, that he knows nothing about economical issues. Maybe, because McCain went to nothing but the National War College in D.C. surely he learned nothing about economical issues. We really don't need anybody to run this country who went to a War College.
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amazed1 year, 8 months ago
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John McCain is a graduate of the US Naval Academy in Annapolis. The War College is for officers to learn strategy -- not only in winning wars, but avoiding them.
Frankly, I think it might be a really GOOD idea to have someone as a Commander in Chief that actually KNOWS what war is about. Most veterans that I know really hate war and know that it truly has to be a last resort. They tend to know when it is necessary, but do not take it lightly -- as someone who has never seen combat might.
My fear growing up was what would happen to us when we ran out of WWII vets for the Presidency -- well, we have and look we are.
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